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The thicker font is definitely new, but yeah the larger status bar on the locked screen was there in beta 1, disappeared in beta 2, and made a return in beta 3.

I guess I never noticed it in beta 1 since the font was thinner. Man, that thicker font sure was noticeable, lol. I really disliked reading my text messages in bold...

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You said it once, I'll repeat it again... IT'S A BETA.

Yes... and what's the point of repeating it, exactly?

I can do that too: IT'S A BETA!!!!!!!

I am fully aware that it is a beta, as is everyone else who is using it. Because it says beta when Apple emailed it to me, it says beta when I downloaded it from Apple's dev site, and guess what? It even says beta when I upgrade it!

It is a beta. It will not work perfectly (yet). That's why it's a beta. Yet that still does not nullify anything I said, does it? Nope, all issues between beta 2 and beta 3 still exist ;)
 
Yes... and what's the point of repeating it, exactly?

I can do that too: IT'S A BETA!!!!!!!

I am fully aware that it is a beta, as is everyone else who is using it. Because it says beta when Apple emailed it to me, it says beta when I downloaded it from Apple's dev site, and guess what? It even says beta when I upgrade it!

Yet that still does not nullify anything I said, does it? Nope, all issues between beta 2 and beta 3 still exist ;)

Because apparently you can't understand that because it is beta it is bound to be full of issues.

People expecting a Beta to be flawless are at best naïve.
 
Because apparently you can't understand that because it is beta it is bound to be full of issues.

People expecting a Beta to be flawless are at best naïve.

As a software developer myself, what makes you think I don't understand what beta is? Why would you think anyone at all should expect a beta to work perfectly?

And if this is all you have to contribute, why are you even here? This thread is specifically for discussing the differences (bugs) I've found between beta 2 and 3 (which I am now reporting to Apple via the dev site).

It's a beta.

It's a beta.

It's a beta.

WE KNOW.
 
Its a work in progress and up until we see the GM and even after there will be updates and improvements. Dont panic, enjoy the ride.
 
As a software developer myself, what makes you think I don't understand what beta is? Why would you think anyone at all should expect a beta to work perfectly?

And if this is all you have to contribute, why are you even here? This thread is specifically for discussing the differences (bugs) I've found between beta 2 and 3.

It's a beta.

It's a beta.

It's a beta.

Hardly, then your title is misleading.

Also, the discussion in the thread is not developer type in any form. It reads more like:

"OMG my phone doesn't work"

"I can't deal with missed calls"

"I'm downgrading back to OS 6, beta 3 and 2 were bad!!"

Seriously, you call that a developer thread?
 
Its a work in progress and up until we see the GM and even after there will be updates and improvements. Dont panic, enjoy the ride.

That is specifically my entire point of creating this thread. A work in progress should... well... progress. For me, beta 3 had quite a few new things broken compared to what it fixed (all of which seem to be somewhat common, according to the number of threads/posts I've seen about them). That sort of stuff doesn't fly at my job... ;)

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Hardly, then your title is misleading.

Also, the discussion in the thread is not developer type in any form. It reads more like:

"OMG my phone doesn't work"

"I can't deal with missed calls"

"I'm downgrading back to OS 6, beta 3 and 2 were bad!!"

Seriously, you call that a developer thread?

It's not misleading at all. Beta 3 had much worse issues than beta 2 had, and those issues are quite detrimental to the functionality of the phone.

I don't know where you're coming up with all of these misquotes, but I never once said I am going back to iOS 6. I simply reverted back from beta 3 to beta 2, as it was much more functional.

I enjoy iOS 7 so much that I can deal with annoyances and missteps in the betas (as I did in beta 1 & 2) on my daily phone. But beta 3 introduced issues that disabled core functionality of the phone (receiving phone calls, and well... just plain being powered on). Those issues are not unique to me, and people deserve to know.

Get off your high horse, son. Everything I've said here is perfectly valid and acceptable. You, on the other hand, are freaking out and completely misunderstanding the entire point of this conversation (and internet forums in general). I am here to report my experiences and discuss them with other developers who are using the iOS 7 betas on their phones.

So let me ask... Are you using the iOS 7 beta? If so, which version? What are you here to contribute to this conversation in which the two latest beta versions are being compared?
 
Just because it's a beta and issues are expected doesn't mean that those issues can't be brought up, discussed, and even compared from beta to beta. What exactly is so crazy or bad about that?

If you aren't interested in that or some particular set of issues (that you either don't care about or don't see or don't even think are really issues) then there's no need to participate in those particular discussions. Pretty simple and straightforward.
 
Just because it's a beta and issues are expected doesn't mean that those issues can't be brought up, discussed, and even compared from beta to beta. What exactly is so crazy or bad about that?

If you aren't interested in that or some particular set of issues (that you either don't care about or don't see or don't even think are really issues) then there's no need to participate in those particular discussions. Pretty simple and straightforward.

Perfectly stated.

Sadly, there are so many people who just love to scream "it's a beta!" as if that magically solves everything and ends the discussion. What they don't realize is that discussing these issues is precisely what gets them to Apple, as people report them. And of course, the more people who report something, the more likely it is that Apple would be like, "hey we should probably make this one a priority..."

They can't stand to see any beta issues brought up and discussed, but they sure love reading a "rumors" site where tons of threads are often just pure speculation. It seems they prefer speculation over actual functionality and improvements.

God forbid people actually discuss real beta issues. Maybe everyone should go back to complaining about the icons I guess? That seemed perfectly acceptable :rolleyes:
 
So let me ask... Are you using the iOS 7 beta? If so, which version? What are you here to contribute to this conversation in which the two latest beta versions are being compared?

Non-developer so I find no need to tinker with ongoing modifications to software which is still not deemed good enough for consumer use.

Furthermore, I never stated or implied those quotes were yours. I stated, the entire thread reads that.

I find it amusing and constructive to point out what I did, because in the end, that's what these threads turn into.

Furthermore, I have yet to see any type of developer conversational style pop up in the thread.... I only see "This and that", but no actual analysis from a coding stand point of your application(s).
 
Non-developer so I find no need to tinker with ongoing modifications to software which is still not deemed good enough for consumer use.

Furthermore, I never stated or implied those quotes were yours. I stated, the entire thread reads that.

I find it amusing and constructive to point out what I did, because in the end, that's what these threads turn into.

Furthermore, I have yet to see any type of developer conversational style pop up in the thread.... I only see "This and that", but no actual analysis from a coding stand point of your application(s).

So then that begs the question... As a non-developer who finds "no need to tinker with ongoing modifications to software which is still not deemed good enough for consumer use", why are you so interested in reading all of the iOS 7 beta threads when these issues will not exist in the final product?

There has not been a single constructive quality in any of your posts here. You have not told us anything we don't already know, nor added anything of value to this conversation.

Seeing as we are not the iOS 7 developers (rather, we are merely app developers), we do not have access to the source code and are not here to talk about code. The only analysis that will come of this discussion is the possibility of someone having experienced the same issues, possibly with different variables (no wi-fi, certain devices, etc), which could lead to more detailed and descriptive bug reports to Apple (because, you see, that's how bug sources are narrowed down). However, if that does not come up, then this thread simply serves as a temporary work-around (go back to beta 2) for people experiencing these issues.

So now that you've admitted and proven that you provide zero value to this thread, would you kindly stop wasting everyone's time, and take your condescending attitude elsewhere?
 
Non-developer so I find no need to tinker with ongoing modifications to software which is still not deemed good enough for consumer use.

Furthermore, I never stated or implied those quotes were yours. I stated, the entire thread reads that.

I find it amusing and constructive to point out what I did, because in the end, that's what these threads turn into.

Furthermore, I have yet to see any type of developer conversational style pop up in the thread.... I only see "This and that", but no actual analysis from a coding stand point of your application(s).
Sounds like this thread isn't for you then. That's pretty much all there's to it.

There are many threads that aren't for me--that I don't really care about for one reason or another or that don't apply to me in one way or another--and I usually don't even read them, or perhaps just read them and that's it given that there's nothing worthwhile that I could or even would want to contribute to those who actually participate in those threads.

Once again, it's all rather quite simple and straightforward.
 
Any of you guys get an error that reads "iPhone is disabled please try again in 1 minute?"

It happens randomly, like when I'm listening to music, I pull out the phone and I'm greeted by that message.
 
Any of you guys get an error that reads "iPhone is disabled please try again in 1 minute?"

It happens randomly, like when I'm listening to music, I pull out the phone and I'm greeted by that message.
Usually means you have a lock code on the phone and it was basically picked dialing and the wrong code was being entered more than a few times which ends up resulting in the phone locking you out for a few minutes (and can be longer as well with more incorrect tries).

Seems like this has become more of an issue in iOS 7 in general likely due to the fact that it's that much easier to swipe to unlock when on the lock screen.
 
I think beta 3 itself is a lot more polished and stable.. However the app compatibility has gone down.. Lower then beta 1 for my group of installed apps.. But it is beta :)
 
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