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I really hope beta 7 comes soon. Beta 6 is reminded me a lot like beta 3. Lots of bugs, especially with syncing.
 
one thing everyone wants but apple cannot provide why? dont they read the blogs smh, give us quick replay, also in ios 7 beta 1 we had the select all feature in mail after that its gone bring it back, 3rd the multitasking tray sucks everone bought auxo when they where jailbroken not that other garbage i know everyone feels the same way i do you we just need to voice our opinions, GIVE US QUICK REPLAY

A quick replay? What use is a quick replay of my last action? :p
 
I hope they will finally include the fingerprint scanning feature in this beta! :mad:

Apple is so dumb, they don't even realize there's hardly any time left for us to beta-test the feature! :mad:

You just have to unlock the feature.
Click your heels three times and repeat the words "There's no print like mine".
Wearing ruby slippers is advised.
 
Ok, I guess you're not very well informed.

iOS 6 beta 4 (the last beta for iOS 6) was a 282MB OTA update.

With how many bugs are still left, including massive issues with the iPad, there is no way they'd waste time releasing a 13MB update unless it was a hotfix.

Beta 6 was clearly just that. 13 MB is barely enough to fix anything.

What are you talking about!? Bug fixes don't come by the pound. 13 MB is enough to fix hundreds of bugs, of course it depends if the update comes with resources and assets inside or not. But 13 MB of only compiled code is a massive amount of code with plenty of room for bug fixes.

But yes, beta 6 was a hotfix, the release notes were very clear pointing that.
 
There's plenty of this in the iOS 7 forum, but the short of it is, for me, the design is a mixed bag. Love the minimalism, animations, lack of skeuomorphism; hate the icons, music app, and color scheme. It's pretty solid on an iPhone 5.

I agree to the minimalism
I disagree to the animations
I agree to the skeuomorphisms
I semi-agree with the icons. While they're different, some just make zero sense.
I agree it is very solid on the iPhone

I still have three+ open bugs with Apple since beta 2 that they still haven't fixed yet and am concerned it won't be before launch. I submitted all the stacks they requested of me and all.

I did agree with Sir Jony Ive about the flatness, in theory, but they haven't changed the GUI this much this radically probably since they changed from System 9 to OS X. So, yes, it is time for iOS to be refreshed. I think once people get over the fact it is now different, they will get used to it and forget all about how it used to look. In fact, it is starting to happen for me already whenever I use someone else's iPhone with iOS 6, it takes me a minute to get readjusted as I had been using iOS 7 on my daily phone (well my only phone, I can't afford a second phone to develop with)
 
That is exactly what I was thinking. I still have numerous crashes on my ipad and iphone 5, rotational issues, keyboard lag, notification problems, bad battery life etc...

I'm shocked this is the last beta pre GM!

"Rotational issues" for sure on my iPad with Retina display. At least half the time, when I rotate from vertical to horizontal (or vice versa, of course), the icons do not re-arrange, and are unselectable because they are in the wrong place on the screen after the rotation. I sometimes have to repeat several times, scroll from one screen to the next, etc., before they finally "reset" and wind up properly arranged on screen.

That's the biggest thing I see, and it's a biggy, because it's so obvious to see but *not* obvious how to fix.
 
as i said, why would apple send out BETA updates so quickly and apple proved my point by not sending out the update.
 
Apple could in theory push out hourly updates from their automated builds.
But why on earth would they? I'm pretty sure they simply remove debugging code and look look out for major issues while devs really start porting apps.

Betas are just as useful as the amount of big devs start reporting issues or changes in behavior.

I'm pretty sure that Apple also has a feature plan. Last time around they enabled certain features as late as possible to have at least some secrecy for new API.

Therefor the need for pushing out lots of betas to the public is rather limted.

What comes to mind? Just guessing:

- Additional game controller API for Apple TV based games
- Airplay features probably only available on a new AppleTV
- UI changes that only affect the look and effects and not the layout that everyone needs to adapt to.
- Security API for fingerprint sensor.
- Camera API's

PS: Having said that, I'm pretty sure that companies like Rovio already have a beta for Apple TV hardwarwe and iPhone controllers that enables them to test games on ATV.
 
Why would Apple consider realing the fingerprint API?

a) It mostly changes keychain API handling
b) No one has a device to test it
c) It does not enable drastically new features besides the handling of security.

I could imagine that the iPhone displays notification contents simply by touching the home button. But I cannot see how this is really more useful because you have to take the phone in your hand either way.
 
as i said, why would apple send out BETA updates so quickly and apple proved my point by not sending out the update.

I wouldn't say they've proven anything yet. The last full beta was released on Tuesday, August 6. Today would mark exactly two weeks since that release. Apple could always release it today.
 
Apple could in theory push out hourly updates from their automated builds.
But why on earth would they? I'm pretty sure they simply remove debugging code and look look out for major issues while devs really start porting apps.

Betas are just as useful as the amount of big devs start reporting issues or changes in behavior.

I'm pretty sure that Apple also has a feature plan. Last time around they enabled certain features as late as possible to have at least some secrecy for new API.

Therefor the need for pushing out lots of betas to the public is rather limted.

What comes to mind? Just guessing:

- Additional game controller API for Apple TV based games
- Airplay features probably only available on a new AppleTV
- UI changes that only affect the look and effects and not the layout that everyone needs to adapt to.
- Security API for fingerprint sensor.
- Camera API's

PS: Having said that, I'm pretty sure that companies like Rovio already have a beta for Apple TV hardwarwe and iPhone controllers that enables them to test games on ATV.

Apple don't push betas to the public. Just developers. That's what this beta is, it has all the API's needed to test things, just nothing that's specific to the new iPhone, the fingerprint sensor, which, if rumours are true, will only be used by iOS, not apps, at least for the initial release.
 
iOS 8

BGR has just announced that Apple will skip iOS 7 all together and release iOS 8 on Sept 10!

:eek:
 
You guys are beauties. The rumor mill says beta 7 will be released on a certain day, then when the rumor doesn't pan out you blame Tim Cook. :(

It's a running in-joke, not actual blame.

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BGR has just announced that Apple will skip iOS 7 all together and release iOS 8 on Sept 10!

:eek:

Yea, cos jokes like that haven't already been made at all since yesterday....

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as i said, why would apple send out BETA updates so quickly and apple proved my point by not sending out the update.

No, your point hasn't been proven.
 
Let's hope the random Safari crashing is fixed.

Safari, much like iCloud isn't one of Apples better efforts.

The Good News is Google has come to Apples rescue and provided us with Google Chrome, a terrific world class browser, and Google Drive an equally stellar cloud service. All for free, a fact that's got to be an embarrassment for Apple.
 
Apple don't push betas to the public. Just developers. That's what this beta is, it has all the API's needed to test things, just nothing that's specific to the new iPhone, the fingerprint sensor, which, if rumours are true, will only be used by iOS, not apps, at least for the initial release.

Apple pushes betas out to "the public". They are well aware of the wide distribution of betas to non-devs, otherwise they could be way more innovative regarding feature testing.

They could, for example, sign dev releases to only work for certain companies and specifically ask them to test certain features.

You wouldn't even notice because you are signed in anyways when you download the beta.

But they don't do that, because they also need bloggers and rumor sites like MR to discuss the betas in the open.

That's why there are basically no restrictions and no one has to fear consequences discussing icons and stupid UI animations.

Most people have lack technical insight to expose "secret" iOS features anyways.
 
Apple pushes betas out to "the public". They are well aware of the wide distribution of betas to non-devs, otherwise they could be way more innovative regarding feature testing.

They could, for example, sign dev releases to only work for certain companies and specifically ask them to test certain features.

You wouldn't even notice because you are signed in anyways when you download the beta.

But they don't do that, because they also need bloggers and rumor sites like MR to discuss the betas in the open.

That's why there are basically no restrictions and no one has to fear consequences discussing icons and stupid UI animations.

Most people have lack technical insight to expose "secret" iOS features anyways.

Again, you are wrong, apple does not push beta's out to the public, or anyone can get it without any effort by just going to apples site and downloading them.......
 
Again, you are wrong, apple does not push beta's out to the public, or anyone can get it without any effort by just going to apples site and downloading them.......

Forums are full of people using the betas ... don't kid yourself.
 
Forums are full of people using the betas ... don't kid yourself.

I'm not saying they aren't, I'm one of them, you're missing my point. You said apple push betas out to the public, they do not, you were wrong with that statement, they push them out to developers,

As for discussing icons and that, people can discuss it without using the beta, as apple put up pages showing screenshots and the features the day after the keynote, so how can't here be restrictions on what apple already made public?!?!
 
I don't think Apple will continue to do things the way they did them before, it's not in "their nature" to follow predictable patterns.

You're serious right? You can practically drill down future product announcements to the date, six months in advance because Apple's product life cycles have hardly varied in the last 10 years!
 
Ok, so is it me or has the world missed the new feature if being able to gift apps to each other in iOS7???

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Ok, so is it me or has the world missed the new feature if being able to gift apps to each other in iOS7???

And you can do music as well.. When did this happen?!?! love it
 
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