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Some of the ideas are good but the widgets concept is about as dumb as it is on Android. Why not just open the app and get the full deal rather than the limited info that comes with widgets? The apps on iOS open blazing fast. It's not like opening Photoshop or something on a slow spinning hard disk.

On iOS? Which device? The camera app is a ridiculous dog on both iPhone4 and iPad Mini.
 
2: Option to add text to the lock screen, for things like email address and phone number. Not something everyone would want to use but it should make recovery of a lost device easier when found by an honest soul.

Lol, I remember some of the custom ROMs I used on a couple of my old WinMo phones had this option for the lick screen. You could simply add any text you wanted. Most folks added something like 'if you find this phone, please all xxx-xxxx. Reward '

It was quite popular at the time.

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So basically, an OS has to constantly be bombarding you with information to be a good OS? Right. Ok.

It may seem like 'bombarding' to you but a lot of us like it. I don't have to open any app to see weather, calendar entries, Facebook stuff (I don't use Facebook but my daughter-in-law loves it), many people keep up with sports scores, stocks, lots of options. I'll be honest, I have my Home screen on my Nokia 920 set up so that unless I need to send an email/text/check a web site I actually rarely even use an app because so much of my needed info is right there at a glance.

The point is that if you rely on your phone to help organize your life it saves a bunch of time to see the most important stuff at a glance rather than spending time opening a dozen or so apps.

If you haven't tried it don't knock it. Everyone uses their phone differently.
 
Some of the ideas are good but the widgets concept is about as dumb as it is on Android. Why not just open the app and get the full deal rather than the limited info that comes with widgets? The apps on iOS open blazing fast. It's not like opening Photoshop or something on a slow spinning hard disk.

Widgets on Android aren't like this; they're things like clocks and calendars that stay on the home or lock screen all the time. I wouldn't even call these widgets at all. Neither these things nor the Android widgets nor the Mac widgets are useful. It's just bloatware. If I want to check the weather, I'll open the app. Otherwise, it shouldn't be wasting my CPU cycles and RAM.

There are already push notifications in the iOS lock screen. Those are nearly good enough. The users just need to be able to interact a little with them.

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On iOS? Which device? The camera app is a ridiculous dog on both iPhone4 and iPad Mini.

It won't be much faster just because it's a smaller window.

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Stupid, stupid, stupid. Smartphone apps ARE widgets. Making widgets for your widgets is quite possibly the dumbest "concept" I've ever seen -- especially given the fact that you have to tap twice as much to see half the information in the same amount of time. I need to get Photoshop and start learning if this constitutes front-page news.

How are they widgets? They're always hidden unless you open them.
 
It seems like all the most popular and successful tweaks available from 3rd parties available on Cydia are finding copies of themselves in the new iOS upgrades. Remember - Notification center, folders, etc.

That's because Jailbreak can build off the work Apple is setting up for themselves in the future and they don't have the same QA.

When Apple releases a feature they have to back it for next 3 versions at least without breaking it, even then they can't ever break it out right without looking pretty embarrassed. Jailbreak can build and then just disappear if they want. It lets them be a lot more reactive.
 
It may seem like 'bombarding' to you but a lot of us like it. I don't have to open any app to see weather, calendar entries, Facebook stuff (I don't use Facebook but my daughter-in-law loves it), many people keep up with sports scores, stocks, lots of options. I'll be honest, I have my Home screen on my Nokia 920 set up so that unless I need to send an email/text/check a web site I actually rarely even use an app because so much of my needed info is right there at a glance.

The point is that if you rely on your phone to help organize your life it saves a bunch of time to see the most important stuff at a glance rather than spending time opening a dozen or so apps.

If you haven't tried it don't knock it. Everyone uses their phone differently.
I have tried it. Weather and calendar entries are available at a glance on iOS which, yes, is very convenient. But for the rest, I'm usually okay with just checking the app. I'm not completely against widgets, but I would hope they are implemented a little differently than Android.
 
That's fine, but what difference does it actually make? It's really not hurting anyone on the front page is all I'm saying.

No, but it just shows there's no real news or rumors to report. Stuff like this is just filler. For me some of the recent patent applications are more newsworthy because they have a chance of becoming something.



 
These concepts look ok for someone who knows how to use them.

But for all the others, this looks awfully confusing. To me, this is an unnecessary, additional level of fragmentation: Some, but not all functionality can be accessed by yet another method.
 
I have tried it. Weather and calendar entries are available at a glance on iOS which, yes, is very convenient. But for the rest, I'm usually okay with just checking the app. I'm not completely against widgets, but I would hope they are implemented a little differently than Android.

I'm sorry, just how are weather and calendar entries available at a glance in iOS? I'm talking about seeing your appts without opening an app. Or seeing not only the current temp but the 5-day forecast without opening an app.

As for widgets in Android. You don't have to use them if they provide no advantage for you.

Personally I don't like iOS on a phone. I like Android. I've had an android phone and I have an iPad. Of all the current phones out there I prefer the WinPhone 8. It provides all the info I need at a glance. Live tiles are much more useful than even widgets. But even with it there are no shortcuts to turning wifi, Bluetooth, etc on/off. I'm hoping MS will open it up for that functionality. But it's not a deal breaker for me right now. If not, then I may move back to an Android phone next time.
 
That's actually all really ugly and poorly thought out to me.

Couldn't agree more - It still looks dated as well... and still fixed format.

Unless the GUI becomes a lot more dynamic (active widgets, more choice of background per page, even maybe dropping the fixed 4 buttons at bottom...) I'll be moving on.

I don't see the problem as painful for the iPad as it is for the iPhone. The lack of real estate for the phone means it's more important to have the flexibility to optimise the space.
 
Some of the ideas are good but the widgets concept is about as dumb as it is on Android. Why not just open the app and get the full deal rather than the limited info that comes with widgets?

That's exactly what the notifications bar tries to do, the music shortcut on the lockscreen/multitaksing bar, the SMS message display.
The sensible thing rather than relying on all these separate fixed notifications is to allow the homescreen to also show info.

So you can open email to check the headings on new emails, open the news reader to check the first few headlines, open your calendar/weather to check the weather, open facebook to check the first few news streams... orrrrrrrr
have widgets on the homescreen so you can glance this info and decide what you actually want to act on without tap-read-home-tap-read-home-tap-read-home, and do simple tasks like changing music tracks/certain preferences on the home screen.

IMO Apple has an opportunity to do homescreen widgets in a nice uniform-looking sort of a way.
 
The concept video reminds me of Android. I really don't want an iPhoid.
 
As big of an Apple fan as I am, I really hope they actually do something different with iOS 7. I have loved iOS from the start, but it has gotten very boring to me and a lot of people. It definitely needs some changes to make it a little more appealing.
 
To be totally honest, I only like the home screen. I think there's another concept that was much cooler.

But then again, the video does not matter since Apple does not even care.
 
Why do you need a WiFi shortcut? Battery? 3G/LTE uses more battery than WiFi.

cause i'm tired of going through 3 steps to turn on the wifi

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Seriously, why are you turn off your wifi? The little battery time you may save isn't worth forgetting you don't have wifi on and surfing the web at a slower speed and using more battery.

cause i'm tired of going through 3 steps to turn on the wifi

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as several others above have pointed out, it's actually 2013 and you need to get with it and stop wasting your time toggling wifi on and off like its 2008. :)

so my already **** battery can die even quicker searching for a wifi connection that's not even there? ok that's a good one
 
How come when I upload a video to youtube that has a snippet of copyrighted music it gets taken down before it even finishes uploading, yet videos like this get to stay up?
 
I'm sorry, just how are weather and calendar entries available at a glance in iOS? I'm talking about seeing your appts without opening an app. Or seeing not only the current temp but the 5-day forecast without opening an app.
Notification Center.
 
IOS 7 looks crude compared to Jelly Bean. Four steps to turn on Bluetooth? Two OS generations back in Android took only one step. Apple needs to radically rethink how everything works and change IOS. All they've been doing is stealing ideas elsewhere and tacking them onto the system as opposed to integrating them into the OS. With all the tack ons IOS looks and feels like System 9. They need a big overhaul like System 10 brought to the Mac.
 
Don't you have to touch the notification center? And does it give you the current temp and five day forecast?

Sorry, I don't have an iPhone but I have iPads. Does it work differently on the phone?

You have to pull down. It shows current temp by default, swipe for 5 day. I don't have an iPad but I imagine it works the same.
 
You have to pull down. It shows current temp by default, swipe for 5 day. I don't have an iPad but I imagine it works the same.

That's what I thought. Not really too hard to use but not 'at a glance' either. And that's the point some people are making. It takes interaction. However, live tiles (or some widgets) will display that info with no interaction at all.

Now some people don't mind having to do something to get the info. That's ok. On an OS that provides the capability you never have to actually utilize it. You can forego widgets or live tiles. But then some happen to like seeing that info literally 'at a glance'.

Those people who are proponents of widgets/live tiles want that functionality on their iOS devices. Done correctly, people in each camp can get their wish.

Personally the reason I won't have an iPhone is because I see it as nothing more than a grid of icons. Not much more than an app launcher. Don't get me wrong, i love my ipad. And Apple has made some strides lately but have much further to go to provide the same functionality as other OSs that I demand on my phone. And I'm not alone here.

Just because you see no use please don't discount the needs of others. Everyone uses their devices differently. If Apple refuses to provide the functionality they will lose customers. If they do provide it everyone wins, those who want it and those who have no need. Time will tell.
 
That's what I thought. Not really too hard to use but not 'at a glance' either. And that's the point some people are making. It takes interaction. However, live tiles (or some widgets) will display that info with no interaction at all.
I'm assuming you have very few live tiles then if you have every possible amount of information you want to glance at on your main screen. You don't scroll at all? That said, I'm pretty positive I can handle a quick swipe.
 
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