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Did you not notice the lock screen, pull down menus, or gestures?

Lockscreen is confusing, and the letters sometimes disappear if you use the wrong kind of wallpaper. Needs work.

By pull-down menu, do you mean the notification center? If so, calendar listing wastes space, weather shouldn't make you read a sentence in tiny font to find out the weather, needs work.

Gestures, okay, that's good.

But in general, iOS 7 needs work, and some of them might have been finished by now if they hadn't been spending so inch time on changing the looks.
 
Thats old iOS design. Have anything new and revolutionary?

That is not the old iOS design. The old iOS design was light blue/gray for the iOS apps.

Also I said they could use those colors with a flat effect.

I'm not a graphic designer though. If you payed me 1 million dollars a year and gave me apples resources I would surely be able to "innovate" something better than a stripped down black and white ui. Please.

I already linked a mock up earlier of someone doing the minimalist design without sucking the life out of the device.
 
Lockscreen is confusing, and the letters sometimes disappear if you use the wrong kind of wallpaper. Needs work.

By pull-down menu, do you mean the notification center? If so, calendar listing wastes space, weather shouldn't make you read a sentence in tiny font to find out the weather, needs work.

Gestures, okay, that's good.

But in general, iOS 7 needs work, and some of them might have been finished by now if they hadn't been spending so inch time on changing the looks.

Its beta and any os's writing has the problem of being hard to see dependent on wallpaper.

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That is not the old iOS design. The old iOS design was light blue/gray for the iOS apps.

Also I said they could use those colors with a flat effect.

I'm not a graphic designer though. If you payed me 1 million dollars a year and gave me apples resources I would surely be able to "innovate" something better than a stripped down black and white ui. Please.

I already linked a mock up earlier of someone doing the minimalist design without sucking the life out of the device.

So whats holding you back?
 
Its beta and any os's writing has the problem of being hard to see dependent on wallpaper.

It may.be beta, but I'm saying the problems could be further along being fixed if they hadn't spent so much time on changing the look.

And iOS 6 didn't have the problem with text on wallpaper, because they used drop shadow. Yes, it hid the wallpaper, but the point is to see the text, not the wallpaper. That's what annoys me about all the talk of emphasizing content -- iOS 7 acts as if the wallpaper is the content we all want to see. NO IT IS NOT!


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So whats holding you back?

Did you miss the part where he said "IF I had a million dollars and apple's resources"?
 
It may.be beta, but I'm saying the problems could be further along being fixed if they hadn't spent so much time on changing the look.

And iOS 6 didn't have the problem with text on wallpaper, because they used drop shadow. Yes, it hid the wallpaper, but the point is to see the text, not the wallpaper. That's what annoys me about all the talk of emphasizing content -- iOS 7 acts as if the wallpaper is the content we all want to see. NO IT IS NOT!


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Did you miss the part where he said "IF I had a million dollars and apple's resources"?

Exactly! The people running apple weren't always billionaires. Drop shadows are old and already done.
 
Drop shadows are old and already done.

So? They work. As I keep saying, why not keep using something that works? There are many things that have been around for decades or centuries that are still being used. "Old and already done" isn't a good reason to stop using something.
 
So? They work. As I keep saying, why not keep using something that works? There are many things that have been around for decades or centuries that are still being used. "Old and already done" isn't a good reason to stop using something.
Come on, we are just tired of them and need something cooler to make it interesting. Who cares if they provide something actually useful.

Circular wheels are so old and already one, we are long long overdue for square ones!
 
Its a beta and no new hardware for iOS is out. Any other financial advice Donald Trump?

Yes young man, get yourself a job. Based on the skills you have shown here at MacRumors, I suggest you look for openings under the heading "Paid forum Poster."

On topic: Flatt(ish), clad in neon and confusing...sounds like a girlfriend of mine from the 1980's...what is old, is new again, especially for all the kids (under 25) out there. You know the ones that are too young, and unwise remember that almost all style seems to rotate around in endless cycles...baggy pants, skinny jeans, classic fit...I do believe we are entering the "skinny jeans" era of iOS...
 
Yes young man, get yourself a job. Based on the skills you have shown here at MacRumors, I suggest you look for openings under the heading "Paid forum Poster."

On topic: Flatt(ish), clad in neon and confusing...sounds like a girlfriend of mine from the 1980's...what is old, is new again, especially for all the kids (under 25) out there. You know the ones that are too young, and unwise remember that almost all style seems to rotate around in endless cycles...baggy pants, skinny jeans, classic fit...I do believe we are entering the "skinny jeans" era of iOS...

You just wrote over two hundred words and managed to say nothing other than you don't like it. Just write I don't like it and move on.
 
You just wrote over two hundred words and managed to say nothing other than you don't like it. Just write I don't like it and move on.

get a job. and how many words have you written over the last week alone? 200,000?

iOS7 sucks and it is not a secret.
 
get a job. and how many words have you written over the last week alone? 200,000?

iOS7 sucks and it is not a secret.

Hmm... I think iOS7 looks WAY better than your icon designs (cluttered & very dated):

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Using the beta for the last few days, I have to say that I think iOS 7 is extremely goddamn dull. There's a handful of design elements I like about it -- the frosted glass effect on pulldown menus and the volume indicator is a cool touch (even though I miss the linen texture more), and the new music playback controls look slick -- but for the most part I'm really let down, and can't help but just see it as a huge lurch backwards in the aesthetics department.

I don't understand all the hate that skeuomorphism or whatever you want to call it has gotten over the last number of months. It's not that bad, I actually really like it. Yeah, Apple has definitely applied this school of design better in some places than others, but what's wrong with having some depth and texture and color in your UI? It's like they just took all the complaints about it to heart and instead of finding a comfortable medium, they just freaking PIVOTED all the way over to this new flat design trend, throwing anything and everything that was even halfway redeeming about iOS 6 out the window in the process. And it is a temporary trend, and I think it will pass sooner than lots of people think.

My menu screen looks awkward as hell now. Just a bunch of flat areas of dead textureless grey for the folders, and a mishmash of random CMYK colors and ugly stock app icons that compliment one another in no noticeable way (Contacts and Reminders... seriously?). It's like Apple just decided nobody wants their mobile operating system to communicate any sort of sense of depth or three-dimensionality or physical tangibility to its users anymore, because THE FUTURE!
 
Something has changed on Apple's website. Look at the iOS 7 images! I'm not sure what they've added but it looks much better now.

Is it dropshadows? I can pinpoint what exactly.
 
Something has changed on Apple's website. Look at the iOS 7 images! I'm not sure what they've added but it looks much better now.

Is it dropshadows? I can pinpoint what exactly.
Nothing has changed.

The Apple web site has always shown drop shadows with OS7, which makes the site a bit misleading.
 
I would love to know what amount of market research has been conducted by Apple when the made the decision to go with the new appearance. On a personal level, I think it looks fine but I do prefer the current iOS 6 look; however, I do believe that the participants on the MacRumors forums represent a fairly small demographic. Specifically I mean that we are on average white, males, North American between the ages of 20-40 (true of most tech forums). This does not make our opinions invalid, but it does mean we might not be entirely representative of the smartphone market as a whole (and certainly not the demographic that Apple is attempting to expand into). Even then, many of the MacRumors participants seem to like or prefer the new look. Apple might be wise not to allow their decisions to be too severely affected by the vocal dissenters found commenting on North American based tech forums, which is a niche group to say the least.
Before you say it, I do know that not everyone here is in the demographic I described but it is a pretty good representation of the average user for what I can tell.
 
Just look at this cold, cold hearted man. I knew this was bound to happen with iOS 7..
I have complete respect for his work in hardware design. BUT! Software, absolutely don't.

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iOS 6 and previous:

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Lol he (Johnny) does look like a total dbag. G star shirt? Lol oookkkk

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This is alive, 3 dimensional, fresh and layered?

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^ This makes me feel like I'm in a doctors office waiting room..I'd hate to see what dead and flat looks like to you.

I'm with u. Too much black and white and blandness. Hope this only lasts a few years before another complete redo. Yuck!
 
I think it looks good. If Microsoft made it I'd think it looks good, if Samsung made it, I'd think it looks good.

I don't care who makes it. I dislike Android but it has UI elements that I think are really good looking. I don't like Samsung at all but the new ATIV PCs look stunning.

Just because you don't like it doesn't mean it's impossible for anybody else to. You aren't a god, you know.

Yeah I am.
 
If you feel the stop watch app could be better you can report them
... I did it for the compass app cause i felt its not upto the mark just like iOS 7 ...

You can't say it's step down actually .. The translucent effect and parallax are 2 things that are showing how the phones will look in the near future .. U would certainly never want to go back to the old notification Center and all ...

While making it too flat, I feel they should have made it a little less .. Made it look like windows phone in a few apps ..
 
These screenshots look like Apple is taking Windows Phone 7's look and Blackberry 7's look and combining them to make iOS 7. Might look "modern" but it's definitely not fun to look at.
 
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