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Sometimes I wonder if Apple is hiding the final look and feel of iOS7 in these betas. Like the way car manufactures hide there next generation cars when they test drive them in open areas. This way the developers have something to test and work on, but surprises will still exist for everyone on the final release.

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First I had this thought too. But then I saw that they seriously market iOS 7 with these kind of icons. I don't have much hope.
 

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Every now and then, there are good unchildish comments in here lol. Let's be mature guys... This is an important discussion but nuh-uh/yuh-huh arguments go nowhere and clutter the thread.
 
First I had this thought too. But then I saw that they seriously market iOS 7 with these kind of icons. I don't have much hope.

But they are so beautiful! So modern and clean! The layering is magnificent! How dare you criticize Apple! this is an Apple Love Fest Forum!!!!!



No iOS 7 for you!!!!


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This is what iOS reminds me of. Its simplistic, modern, useable. If you want complicated, overdone, and clunky go android. Going simple is a welcome addition to iOS when its adding more function.

Kind of tired of this comparison/description of Android.

Android sub 4.1 is complicated, overdone, and clunky. Its actually an amazingly slick system now.

I mean, I absolutely loathe the Miami Heat, but you don't see me claiming they suck.

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Honestly, I think if the colors were toned down a little bit (not so bright) it would feel a bit more professional and squash most of the issues these people have.

For instance, the bar at the top to return to your current phone call is so florescent green that the last time I saw that color, people were using:

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Kind of tired of this comparison/description of Android.

Android sub 4.1 is complicated, overdone, and clunky. Its actually an amazingly slick system now.

I mean, I absolutely loathe the Miami Heat, but you don't see me claiming they suck.

No its not an amazingly slick system. I would buy it if it were. Google lag and Galaxy s4(the most powerful phone on the planet). There are certain parts about certain systems that are true. Apple is boring and has a great ecosystem. Android sticks crazy specs in their hardware but is laggy, and WP8 is plain. Don't tell me that android is slick cause thats not the case.
 
Kind of tired of this comparison/description of Android.

Android sub 4.1 is complicated, overdone, and clunky. Its actually an amazingly slick system now.

Unfortunately, the vast majority of Android devices are sub 4.1.
 
Kind of tired of this comparison/description of Android.

Android sub 4.1 is complicated, overdone, and clunky. Its actually an amazingly slick system now.

I'm going to have to argue that. Even with my 100% stock Android devices on 4.2, there is stil la lot more noticiable glitches and lag than iOS 7 beta on my iPhone. Is it as bad as sub 4.1? No, but oh its there.
 
I demoed a galaxy s4 for a few days. I would get notifications for a lot of weird stuff. Some Doctor is Denver had a cancelled appointment, coupon announcement s for blow dryers, etc. It was a hot mess. I do like WP8 better than iOS but its lack of a ecosystem holds me back.
 
So you're telling me one of three things:

1) You have poor eyesight.

2) I shouldn't take what you say seriously.

3) Both of those things.

Sure, and I can do the same. If you really you can't see the similarity in the design cues and style then you are telling me one of three things:

1) you are in denial
2) you have never taken any type of art classes and really don't know.
3) Both
 
If I were listing the good and bad (that I've seen), it would be like this.

Good

New animations.
Weather app.
Transparency in video player app.
Control Centre.
New Notification Centre design.
New app store design.

Bad

Too much white.
New icon designs.
Settings app (the white and grey combo just looks bad).
Don't like the default wallpapers.

I think it would've been cool if they could have used more of the frosted transparency than white like they do with Siri.
I like the way Safari, the new camera, and weather looks.
It would be nice if they could tone down the brightness in the clock, messaging, and calendar. But I haven't seen it in person. I'm just reviewing it by the images I see.

This IOS looks as if it has a feel like its a rough draft. And yes I know it is a beta. But I think everyone believes that the imperfections of the design will be corrected by the release. I say yes and no. Subtle changes will be done. But other than that. This is what you are gonna get.

The best way to explain it, would be that it is a good concept by Apple. But they have stumbled on the implementation. But those of you who are expecting them to over correct some things. It's too late. You can make a subtle change, here and there. But it's too late to correct many of the inherent design faults included in the new IOS.

I'm going to have to disagree with you. This iOS has been slammed together after forestall was sent off. Some of the ideas were probably in development, but I think many of the big changes were added in the past 6 months. They have 3 months until release, so I expect to see a variety of improvements by release as long as developers keep providing them with feedback.

I really don't think the changes were made just for the sake of changing. I think Apple has a clear vision for the future, and iOS7 will help set the foundation for more years of app innovation from devs. I think we'll see some cool stuff.

I agree. I think iOS7 is kind of like primer paint. iOS8 will show us the true color of what the designers wanted, rather than a change that was driven by a couple failures of the past leader.

This is much more compelling than iOS 7 -- besides the icons. They should have hired this guy and let Ive stick to hardware instead of putting him in a room with Photoshop.

The new design screams amateur.

I'm inclined to disagree, I like some of the color choices in your video, but I'm not all around in favor of this design. I'm not a fan of the ultra square icons, I like the rounded corners on iOS7 apps. I do like the look of the video's calendar, but only because there are more colors, not because of the overall design. I like the lock screen in the video, but not any more or less than the current design. I am not a fan of the video's iTunes design, I think they went overboard with color when it was unnecessary. I think the Apple camera app looks much better than the one displayed in the video. I like the notification center in the video more than the real iOS7 one. I thought the half screen, with side swiping is a really neat idea.

The new iOS 7 design is not amateur to my eyes at all. It's minimalist, but I think it does a great job of having design continuity throughout all of the common apple apps. Should they tone it down? I think so, there needs to be some more lines showing separation in my opinion, and a bit more color, and less stark white.
 
Ah no need to call names. I never said anyone is a 12 year old girl. I said 12 year old girls would like their phone to match their earrings. If your only complaint is that you don't like the colors and design then it is noted and noted plenty of times. If you have nothing constructive to contribute to the beta testing of this item then stop crying and move on. I don't like android, yet I have never gone to an android site and complained about its looks. I just don't buy them. Its an easy decision. You don't like iOS7 then don't use it.

Its not that simple since every device will be pre-loaded with iOS 7 come fall. At that point yes people will have a very tough choice to make if they cant stand the new OS.
 
I'm going to have to argue that. Even with my 100% stock Android devices on 4.2, there is stil la lot more noticiable glitches and lag than iOS 7 beta on my iPhone. Is it as bad as sub 4.1? No, but oh its there.

What are your "stock android devices"?

My HTC One and Nexus 7 run beautifully.

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No its not an amazingly slick system. I would buy it if it were. Google lag and Galaxy s4(the most powerful phone on the planet). There are certain parts about certain systems that are true. Apple is boring and has a great ecosystem. Android sticks crazy specs in their hardware but is laggy, and WP8 is plain. Don't tell me that android is slick cause thats not the case.

To each their own, but continue to voice your opinion as fact, and it makes every other point you try to make invalid.
 
What are your "stock android devices"?

My HTC One and Nexus 7 run beautifully.

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To each their own, but continue to voice your opinion as fact, and it makes every other point you try to make invalid.

Android is laggy and thats a fact. Some things are just a fact.
 
That doesn't matter in this thread. The title clearly says "graphically". This discussion is about design. In terms of design, iOS7 is actually pretty similar to Android.
 
Sure, and I can do the same. If you really you can't see the similarity in the design cues and style then you are telling me one of three things:

1) you are in denial
2) you have never taken any type of art classes and really don't know.
3) Both

1) I'm not in denial because I actually like it?

2) I'm currently enrolled in my school's Honors Digital Arts & Design dual enrollment high school/college credit course as well as receiving multiple awards for my high ranking in the class, as well as several design award competitions in first and second place.

The only similarities there are is there's text and there's whitespace. With your logic, MacRumors looks a lot like iOS 7, or Facebook, or even parts of iOS 6 itself.

What are your "stock android devices"?

My HTC One and Nexus 7 run beautifully.
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My Nexus 7 is a total glitchfest. The N4 is a lot better...but there's still a fair amount of lag sometimes.

And Android is for a fact laggy, even Google themselves have acknowledged the issue.
 
How so? It works exactly the same except it has added two pull down screens. What is the function that you don't like?

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What usability issues are you talking about? The thread title is graphically a step back, not functionally.
Graphically doesn't just mean icons or colors. How about the huge amount of whitespace, how about very thin (although slightly thicker now) light blue icons used in default apps. How about the overall thinner font that is not as quick to see when simply glancing. How about simple text in place of buttons--yes, a text label doesn't make a button, it's still just text that is clickable, yet there's just overuse of it among other text that is on the screen.

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Exactly. Ask RIM how the strategy of keeping things stale for the sake of staleness works out for a business long term.
Yeah, because RIM was simply behind times as far as graphical design was concerned, right? Apples and oranges--they might be similar in that they are fruits, but they are not the same kind of fruits.
 
Ah ok just keep crying people. So how would you fix the white? Orange, blue, green. black? Please show me your design genius.
 
So you're telling me that this:

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Looks like this:

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:rolleyes:
Wait, are you saying that it doesn't look like it? :confused:

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Ah ok just keep crying people. So how would you fix the white? Orange, blue, green. black? Please show me your design genius.
Ah, so unless people have worked out fixes for something the comments they make are meaningless?

So, as an example, if there's a bridge that's falling apart and people see that and comment on that and hope something might be done about it, yet they themselves don't have a solution, does that make the issue with that bridge any better?

Sure, let's overlook any potential issues unless someone has a fully researched thesis paper published and peer-reviewed on that issue, all the solutions to it, and everything else goes along with it.

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After using ios7 on the iPad for a few days I could never go back to ios6. Everything is better and this is just the first iPad beta and second overal for the new os.

Yeah the icons are bright and colorful and honestly wouldn't be my taste in colors but the so is iOS is more efficient and fun you completely forget about the Easter egg app colors
Yup, those extra long animations practically everywhere sure do make it more efficient. ;)

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As much as I would like to agree with you, here I am, sitting in a room full of 50 students, who wants to switch over to iPhone just because of iOS 7, here in Korea. I guess it all depends on how one views it.
Wanting something for the "hipness"/"coolness" or even simply "newness" factor of it, can often have little relation (especially initially) to any issues that might be present or how good or bad something is overall.
 
Ah ok just keep crying people. So how would you fix the white? Orange, blue, green. black? Please show me your design genius.

By adding colors and depth. Not that hard. For example instead of the top part of messages being plain black text on a white background which says messages. The top part can becolored lets say blue, because that is the signature message color. And the part that says messages can be in white font over the blue background. Each app can have their own signature color.Ex: Notes-> Yellow, Calendar-> Red, Clocks/timers->Green etc

Like this but with less bezel, ie a little more flat
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Wait, are you saying that it doesn't look like it? :confused:.

I think the Craigslist website does look a bit more busy, but it does have elements I like, such as it uses buttons and brackets to highlight commands and site links, and dividers to separate different elements of the page.

I know the design philosophy behind iOS 7 was to get rid of visual clutter, but I think some demarcation is useful. For instance, if they put a thin line around the text links that used to be buttons, I think that might help. Unfortunately, I don't have the photoshopping skills to make mock ups.
 
I agree with the OP. IMO it's change for change's sake. Some folks do like it better, but mostly just because it's different. If you presented 6 and 7 to people who had never seen either, I bet they'd overwhelmingly prefer 6. Just my opinion of course.

That said, the new functionality is really great, and that's what I care about most (by far). So I'll deal with the lifeless design and enjoy the new features.
 
[/COLOR]Ah, so unless people have worked out fixes for something the comments they make are meaningless?

So, as an example, if there's a bridge that's falling apart and people see that and comment on that and hope something might be done about it, yet they themselves don't have a solution, does that make the issue with that bridge any better?

Sure, let's overlook any potential issues unless someone has a fully researched thesis paper published and peer-reviewed on that issue, all the solutions to it, and everything else goes along with it.


His ad hominem attacks seem to be the going trend here. If you don't have a solution, you cannot complain. Actually, that seems to be the going trend on this board. If you have ANYTHING negative to say about the product that's out there, be prepared for the insane backlash from the crazies. That being said, there are also way too many whiners on here.

Anyway, I agree on the too much white. Maybe have a "night mode" option that changes the applications base white background to dark grey and vice versa. I dont know... but going from SMS, to the Calendar app, then opening a link from Calendar in Safari makes me feel like I'm in an asylum.
 
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