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Didn't read through the comments but you really couldn't have expected the full feature-set. Not with as rapid as technology evolves. Not to mention the 4 probably won't even be on the market when this comes out. If they did enable all the features people would be chastising them for how much more the phone is bogged down by the OS. I know it sucks, but that's just how it is.

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Wow, that's a lot smoother than I was expecting!

.... please film in landscape in the future, haha :)

To be fair, that looks like a clean install. But that is quite smooth. I don't think "mainstream" users should expect it to run this flawless. You never know, though...
 
You get to learn the same lesson that I did with my 3G back in the day :)

Buying old hardware to save money is a badddd idea. And if you did buy the 4 when it came out, congratulations, your eligible for an upgrade :rolleyes:

Stop complaining. Your running 3- year old hardware. The 4S was 2X as fast as the 4, and the 5 is 2X as fast as the 4S, and as I run the beta it's obvious that this so was designed and optimized for a phone that's 2x as fast as the 5.

Are you high?!?!?

Just because a processor has two cores does not mean it is 2x faster. How efficient are those cores? The 4s was 25-60% faster and the 5 the same over the 4s. Just because apple says its 2x as fast as the last its not always right.
 
Didn't read through the comments but you really couldn't have expected the full feature-set. Not with as rapid as technology evolves. Not to mention the 4 probably won't even be on the market when this comes out. If they did enable all the features people would be chastising them for how much more the phone is bogged down by the OS. I know it sucks, but that's just how it is.

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To be fair, that looks like a clean install. But that is quite smooth. I don't think "mainstream" users should expect it to run this flawless. You never know, though...

It's an update from iOS 6 :)

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Wow, that's a lot smoother than I was expecting!

.... please film in landscape in the future, haha :)

Roger! :)
 
Was iOS 6 a fresh install? There don't seem to be many (if any) third party apps. In any event, that seems to be much cleaner than many people keep their phones.

No, I have iOS 6 from the first time! Works fine but sometimes slowly... like typing on the keyboard
Apps are on other page! xD
 
Oh yeah, what about games? Why is the iphone 4 still running high end games like rr3 pretty smooth? And again, stop this "it s a beta" cause I used every single beta of ios 6 and there was no lag, I am not wrong because in that time, iphone 4 was my only and main device and I was using it every day for like 3,4 hours so being beta is no excuse.

iOS 6 changed very little over iOS 5. iOS 7 is a complete overhaul. There will be and are bugs. And being a beta is an excuse. I don't know where you got the notion that all betas were supposed to run smooth. If that was the case there would be no such thing as a beta. And no matter how you slice it, the iPhone 4 is slow. Especially compared to every other iOS device still supported. It's a 3 year old phone with 4 year old internals. That's an eternity in smartphone years. That's like someone with a Windows 95 machine complaining because it runs Windows XP like a dog, and blaming Windows XP.
 
iOS 6 changed very little over iOS 5. iOS 7 is a complete overhaul. There will be and are bugs. And being a beta is an excuse. I don't know where you got the notion that all betas were supposed to run smooth. If that was the case there would be no such thing as a beta. And no matter how you slice it, the iPhone 4 is slow. Especially compared to every other iOS device still supported. It's a 3 year old phone with 4 year old internals. That's an eternity in smartphone years. That's like someone with a Windows 95 machine complaining because it runs Windows XP like a dog, and blaming Windows XP.

I know it is slow but like every other iphone, with a new update, to make the phone work the same, they need to remove some features. In ios 7 they removed the transparent dock and wallpaper but they still need to remove features to make it run decent, they should remove all the transparency and all the useless graphics, I know, it sucks but that's how it is, I would rather use an iphone that doesen't have a very beautiful os but runs fluid and decent than a beautiful one with animations and useless efects and laggs and takes about a second to type a key( keyboard)
 
I will not be updating my i4 to iOS 7. This is more like iOS 6.5 imo.

Microsoft did the same thing for some single core WP7 phones with a 7.8 update that looked like WP8.
 
Are you high?!?!?

Just because a processor has two cores does not mean it is 2x faster. How efficient are those cores? The 4s was 25-60% faster and the 5 the same over the 4s. Just because apple says its 2x as fast as the last its not always right.


I'm talking about just flat geekbench scores. Each one WAS 2X better than the last. + I never said ANYTHING about the number of cores they have, but I appreciate you shoving words into my mouth.
 
Wow OP, you are complaining about a beta. Guess what? Its slow on the iPhone 5 too. Wait for the release.
 
I installed iOS 7 Beta 1 on my iPhone 4, (which is still my everyday out of the house device, due to a very drawn out contract with a terrible canadian carrier)
and for most of the first day, it was laggy as hell, but during the day it got faster and faster, and now its almost not laggy at all! The new tab animations in safari are still choppy, but it doesn't freeze on it anymore. The new swipe back and forth between pages feature (like on a magic mouse/trackpad) sometimes freezes apps when I use it. And sometimes if I play around with the features for a while it starts to eat battery and get hot. And apart from some UI glitches (like notification centre and control centre getting stuck half way swiped up) it isn't that bad. And hey, its a beta, (the first beta at that) these things are expected. Its MUCH less buggy then I thought it would be.
 
I installed iOS 7 Beta 1 on my iPhone 4, (which is still my everyday out of the house device, due to a very drawn out contract with a terrible canadian carrier)
and for most of the first day, it was laggy as hell, but during the day it got faster and faster, and now its almost not laggy at all! The new tab animations in safari are still choppy, but it doesn't freeze on it anymore. The new swipe back and forth between pages feature (like on a magic mouse/trackpad) sometimes freezes apps when I use it. And sometimes if I play around with the features for a while it starts to eat battery and get hot. And apart from some UI glitches (like notification centre and control centre getting stuck half way swiped up) it isn't that bad. And hey, its a beta, (the first beta at that) these things are expected. Its MUCH less buggy then I thought it would be.

I noticed this phenomenon too, it seems to get better over time. I wonder if it has anything to do with the intelligent cpu usage they were talking about in the keynote. Who knows, but it seems to be much better on my 4 than the initial install made it seem.
 
Care to back up your claim?

iPhone 3GS Soc: 600Mhz Arm Cortex A8 Samsung S5PC100,

GPU: PowerVR SGX535

iPhone 4 Soc: 800Mhz ARM Cortex A8 Apple A4 manufactured by Samsung. Just a slightly more power efficient version of what was in the 3GS clocked 200Mhz faster with the name A4 slapped on.

GPU: PowerVR SGX535

Another way of saying what you said is that the iPhone 4 is 33% faster, which is not an insignificant jump. Also the 4 has x2 the RAM than the 3GS.

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I installed iOS 7 Beta 1 on my iPhone 4, (which is still my everyday out of the house device, due to a very drawn out contract with a terrible canadian carrier)
and for most of the first day, it was laggy as hell, but during the day it got faster and faster, and now its almost not laggy at all! The new tab animations in safari are still choppy, but it doesn't freeze on it anymore. The new swipe back and forth between pages feature (like on a magic mouse/trackpad) sometimes freezes apps when I use it. And sometimes if I play around with the features for a while it starts to eat battery and get hot. And apart from some UI glitches (like notification centre and control centre getting stuck half way swiped up) it isn't that bad. And hey, its a beta, (the first beta at that) these things are expected. Its MUCH less buggy then I thought it would be.

I've been reading a lot of people saying this on various forums. Now sure why performance would improve over time without any updates, but it is apparently the case.

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Wow OP, you are complaining about a beta. Guess what? Its slow on the iPhone 5 too. Wait for the release.

Well it has been out for 3 days now, so no reason for Apple not to have fixed all of the bugs by now. :).
 
I will not be updating my i4 to iOS 7. This is more like iOS 6.5 imo.

Microsoft did the same thing for some single core WP7 phones with a 7.8 update that looked like WP8.

this is exactly the opposite to what MS did with WP7 -> WP7.8

WP 7.8 was made to look the same (smaller live tiles, yay!) while remaining entirely incompatible to WP 8 compiled apps

iOS 7 (on the iPhone 4) will look slightly different (due to performance constraints, maybe; maybe it'll even look the same - it's a beta after all) but be perfectly compatible with apps written for iOS 7.

it's the same as people whining about the 3GS missing out on some features from iOS 6. the API level is what really counts.
 
GPS Navigation ios7 beta Problems

Hello

my NAVIGON app is still crashing on startup. TOMTOM, WAZE and SKOBBLER are starting.
But Navigation inside these apps is terrible. TOMTOM says no significant GPS signal detected. navigation Maps does not work....

Has someone problems, too?

Yours
Christoph
 
Another way of saying what you said is that the iPhone 4 is 33% faster, which is not an insignificant jump. Also the 4 has x2 the RAM than the 3GS.

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I've been reading a lot of people saying this on various forums. Now sure why performance would improve over time without any updates, but it is apparently the case.

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Well it has been out for 3 days now, so no reason for Apple not to have fixed all of the bugs by now. :).

Probably because when you first install it, it will try to connect to all the info with your cell, like mobile data, accounts, iCloud, etc. stuff that runs in the background to get your phone readied. And since those information is updated on your phone, it will stop, so less leggy through times. (Just like computers)
 
Hello

my NAVIGON app is still crashing on startup. TOMTOM, WAZE and SKOBBLER are starting.
But Navigation inside these apps is terrible. TOMTOM says no significant GPS signal detected. navigation Maps does not work....

Has someone problems, too?

Yours
Christoph

GPS doesn't work on the iPhone 4 is this release. It will be back in one of the next betas.

From the release notes:

Location Services
Known Issues:
...

‣ In this seed, GPS-based location is nonfunctional on iPhone 4. This includes AGPS call flows used for 911 emergency services location requests. Wi-Fi and cellular-based location remain functional.
 
To be fair though the performance of iOS7 on the iPhone 4 is a VERY useful benchmark, because iOS6 is perfect on the iPhone 4... so it shows that iOS7 is clearly FAR more intensive, and therefore your iPhone 4S or iPhone 5 will most likely have WORSE battery life than iOS6
 
Zerilos: I've been reading a lot of people saying this on various forums. Now sure why performance would improve over time without any updates, but it is apparently the case.

Instead of being fast after the install and getting slower over time, maybe now its slow after the install and gets faster over time, I guess Apple does "Think Different" :p
 
Panoramic wallpaper

i download a pano from google and thats it.. working. :D

I can't figure this out.I've downloaded many panoramic images,yet the panorama category doesn't show up.Could you PLEASE explain a bit what you did?
Also:can the background color be set to something other than gray?(for dock-control)
 
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