OS Xi, otherwise known as OS eleven (which comes after 10) would be a far superior name in my opinion. Lower case "i" would be a tip of the hat to iOS.
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iOS 7 to Ship 'On Time' as OS X Engineers Pitch In
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OS Xi, otherwise known as OS eleven (which comes after 10) would be a far superior name in my opinion. Lower case "i" would be a tip of the hat to iOS.
Is a nice guy, not pompous at all. Met him on more than one occasion.
How many of his "yep" and "nope" comments have been accurate in the last year? I am guessing that if this guy has a 100% track record, then Apple is feeding him this information. If Apple is not giving him information, then they are not doing a great job of figuring out his circle of friends in an attempt to stop the leaks.
I wish someone would ask him if the new Mac Pro will be introduced at WWDC!
He is well connected, and he also knows when to talk and when to remain quiet. I doubt you'd get anything out of him about a new Mac Pro.
Looks like you haven't been paying attention if you think that's all he does.
True, but that doesn't mean that a year ago they couldn't have brought in more people. There are lots of bugs to fix, and lots of new features to do. Apple is known for keeping teams small - sometimes too small, as is apparent now. If they're pulling engineers from one OS to another, this isn't a case where the Mythical Man Month applies. These aren't infrequent surges in work load. There's always work load.
I would believe you are correct that their is a core team working on the core, that being Darwin. As Darwin is the core set of components that both operating systems are based off of. As a programmer myself this makes perfect sense to move form within and I know this is something that happens all the time at all companies really. Also as a programmer I know it makes almost virtually no sense to just hire a Software Engineer off the streets (even though according to their jobs page, using the filter Software Engineer I get 600+ results turned out, normal for a BIG company like Apple) to throw in this situation. They wouldn't even know their coding style or guidelines (maybe if you've developed apps long enough for OSX you might have an idea), much less their internal code base or libraries! if I was hired by Apple and was thrown directly on iOS7 as a major project right off the bat, I'd be very uncomfortable and would not like it one bit. I don't think any Software Engineer would want to be put in that situation without getting used to their internal libraries, code base, reading their coding guidelines, or even the projects design.
Ask any programmer. If you give them a BIG project code base (no telling how big the project and code base is for iOS7, operating systems are HUGE anyway) ask them what they'd need/want? Answer will be "time to study the code design, learn styles, and more." This time isn't just 1-2 days either. heck programmers have a hard enough time jumping back into their own code they wrote if they haven't looked at it in a while (good commenting doesn't always help on a big project like this)!
Pulling software developers from one team to another is very common in software development, especially operating system development. Only reason people making a big deal about this is because it is "public." I put quotes around "public" because Apple Project Managers haven't officially said yes this happened. Other companies do this, it just isn't "announced" to the "public" like this all the time.
They are hiring people also, 600+ just for software engineering positions.
It continues development like nothing happened. It's normal.So what happens with OS X 10.9?
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I'm pretty sure it goes both ways. Engineers get assigned to one project or another depending on the need. I think there's just more pressure to sync up iOS with the Fall mobile hardware releases (probably September) such as iPhone 5S, 5th-generation iPad, 2nd-generation iPad Mini.
With OS X, they seem content to give people a "if you bought a Mac within the past 30 days, click here for a free download code".
If only apple had enough money to hire more engineers
So they could create OS X Vista?
I still laugh when people talk about the "mythical man month", as if Apple hasn't made it obvious that each team could use more people by... moving people around constantly.
It would take time to train, etc etc, but it has to be done SOME time. Saying "they can't help right now" would mean you might as well never hire anyone ever. And that's a horrible idea.
It would take time to train, etc etc, but it has to be done SOME time. Saying "they can't help right now" would mean you might as well never hire anyone ever. And that's a horrible idea.
Who said they aren't hiring? Just go to their job opportunities page. Looks to me like they are hiring.
Ah poop, once again didn't read the article and concentrated more on making a snide remark. Sorry
Well at least you have your priorities straight!
My point was more... saying they shouldn't get new people because they can't do something NOW is not a good argument.
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Now I know how Darlymple gets all this inside information. Whatever creatures that are living in his beard are small enough to craw beneath the doors of Apple's development labs
Apple has pulled engineers off OS X 10.9 ?????
C'mon!!!! hire some more engineers for god sake !!! need more H1-B visas??? find them here in the states... or are we out of programmers already?
C'mon!!!! hire some more engineers for god sake !!! need more H1-B visas??? find them here in the states... or are we out of programmers already?
With these reports of iOS engineers slaving overtime, I hope iOS7 isn't a rushed job with features thought up under the pressure of an artificial deadline, rather than really thinking through and inventing something that is a glorious OS.
I really hate the flat look in Android, and much prefer the iOS 1-6 look and feel. So I am really hoping version 7 isn't going to bring it closer to Android's flat look.
I really hate the flat look in Android, and much prefer the iOS 1-6 look and feel. So I am really hoping version 7 isn't going to bring it closer to Android's flat look.
This is actually really dumb. iOS 7 will be revealed at WWDC. What do they mean it will be delayed? Meaning it won't be shown at WWDC? Or the gold master won't be ready by September?
There are beta releases up until the GM anyway... So... This makes no sense.
Like? What's delayed?
There are beta releases up until the GM anyway... So... This makes no sense.
Like? What's delayed?
Apple has pulled engineers off OS X 10.9 ?????
C'mon!!!! hire some more engineers for god sake !!! need more H1-B visas??? find them here in the states... or are we out of programmers already?
I just looked on Apple's site.
Keyword OS X
Checked off "United States" in location
Checked off "Mac" and "OS" in business line
Checked off "Software Engineer" in job function.
87 results.
Surprisingly enough, iWork even has some openings. Completely unrelated, mind you, but still kind of funny.
Well the point of those arguments is that flat out hiring more engineers right now would be pointless. Plus another point of those arguments is that this is done at just about every development house. Let's not play dumb and think that no company ever moves people from one project, or more specifically, one OS to another OS during crunch mode. It makes perfect sense too.
It does for most things, but when they scheduled two OSs to be released at at the same time and then moved from one to the other? It becomes slightly less smart.
