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iOS 8.0.1 to Address Bugs With Phone, Keyboard, Videos in Safari, and More
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I assume at your place of employment your management expects the same from you?and that you deliver each and every time without fail or adjustment of the derivable?
You assume 100% correctly. My boss is famous for reminding the sales team to under promise and over deliver, and not the other way around. (example) If I can turn around a project in 2 weeks, I tell my customer 3 weeks and usually deliver in 2. If a project date is in danger of missing a deadline, typically it's realized before the last minute. That's when you communicate issues so no one is blind sided and the problem can be solved. Full disclosure tends to mitigate disappointment and sets proper expectation. Our customers would fire us if we told them everything was great when we knew there were issues and we gave them a flawed product simply to meet a deadline.
Normally I don't respond to quotes like yours because it overlooks the overarching context of my quote. I was referencing the issue from a consumer perspective. I only responded because your quote seemed to imply I was employing a double standard regarding Apple and my place of employment. I assure you I was not. At my job, we are held accountable.
No issues with wifi here. Just allot of other little bugs. Annoying but works OK.
Bring on the bug fixes please!
Bring on the bug fixes please!
WiFi
Who is experiencing problems with WiFi on their iPhone 6?
Currently, I can locate multiple routers in my office building, but cannot connect to any of them. I get the message that it is the wrong password when it clearly is not. Or, it simply says that I cannot connect. I have tried everything, including a full reset today, and nothing has fixed it.
Considering returning the phone.
Anyone else experiencing these issues or something similar?
Who is experiencing problems with WiFi on their iPhone 6?
Currently, I can locate multiple routers in my office building, but cannot connect to any of them. I get the message that it is the wrong password when it clearly is not. Or, it simply says that I cannot connect. I have tried everything, including a full reset today, and nothing has fixed it.
Considering returning the phone.
Anyone else experiencing these issues or something similar?
Yeah, mine clearly varies from yours. Like, sometimes I switch between apps. That's right! I'll use more than one app in one day. M$ hasn't quite figured that out, yet. (Win 7) Maybe a few more decades and it will happen.
Wifi is still fine on my i6. I've had many problems with Apple's networking in the past, but not today.
Voice Quality is horrid and apple knows it !
The Voice quality when on the phone without using speaker is Mediocre at best. My Customers and clients are all telling me that I dont sound great.
We bought 11 of the Iphone 6's for all my workers and all of us are having the same issue. Some calls sometimes are okay but most of the time its awful.
When you are talking to someone ask them how you sound and then switch to speaker phone and ask them again. The Speakerphone quality is far better than the direct earpiece and mic. Make any sense ? Not at all but obviously they rushed to get this out and totally blew this part of the phone.
I am in the Audio business so foir me voice quality is key. People are having this issue and dont even know it because people are okay with crappy cell calls which they shouldn't stand for. I spent 15 years at AT&T in the Voice over Ip and Labs developing Voice over technology so I am fairly qualified in this area.
The 5s had stunning voice quality as did the 5 and the 4's as well. They really have screwed up and I am going to have to return all these phones if they dont fix this fast. I cant have my customers not hearing me clearly which is why i have always remained on VZW and used Iphones. If I wasn't so imbedded with Apple products in my life I would go buy a Galaxy S5 and be done with apple but I am not there yet.
It drives me nuts that all the reviewers focus on the camera and screen and everything except voice quality and when they do mention voice quality they say oh it sounds fine. They dont know how to actually test it properly.
You can go ahead and call your own voice mail and leave yourself messages on the earpiece and then on speaker and compare..
Blue tooth doesnt apply to any of this because it uses a whole different set of D/A decoders and can make the call sound better or worse depending on the headset type. I dont rely on headsets to fix issues with my phones.
Craig NJ
The Voice quality when on the phone without using speaker is Mediocre at best. My Customers and clients are all telling me that I dont sound great.
We bought 11 of the Iphone 6's for all my workers and all of us are having the same issue. Some calls sometimes are okay but most of the time its awful.
When you are talking to someone ask them how you sound and then switch to speaker phone and ask them again. The Speakerphone quality is far better than the direct earpiece and mic. Make any sense ? Not at all but obviously they rushed to get this out and totally blew this part of the phone.
I am in the Audio business so foir me voice quality is key. People are having this issue and dont even know it because people are okay with crappy cell calls which they shouldn't stand for. I spent 15 years at AT&T in the Voice over Ip and Labs developing Voice over technology so I am fairly qualified in this area.
The 5s had stunning voice quality as did the 5 and the 4's as well. They really have screwed up and I am going to have to return all these phones if they dont fix this fast. I cant have my customers not hearing me clearly which is why i have always remained on VZW and used Iphones. If I wasn't so imbedded with Apple products in my life I would go buy a Galaxy S5 and be done with apple but I am not there yet.
It drives me nuts that all the reviewers focus on the camera and screen and everything except voice quality and when they do mention voice quality they say oh it sounds fine. They dont know how to actually test it properly.
You can go ahead and call your own voice mail and leave yourself messages on the earpiece and then on speaker and compare..
Blue tooth doesnt apply to any of this because it uses a whole different set of D/A decoders and can make the call sound better or worse depending on the headset type. I dont rely on headsets to fix issues with my phones.
Craig NJ
iOS 8 has been a lot buggier than I expected.
Software can't be perfect and I expect that Apple will fix them.
Software can't be perfect and I expect that Apple will fix them.
You assume 100% correctly. My boss is famous for reminding the sales team to under promise and over deliver, and not the other way around. (example) If I can turn around a project in 2 weeks, I tell my customer 3 weeks and usually deliver in 2. If a project date is in danger of missing a deadline, typically it's realized before the last minute. That's when you communicate issues so no one is blind sided and the problem can be solved. Full disclosure tends to mitigate disappointment and sets proper expectation. Our customers would fire us if we told them everything was great when we knew there were issues and we gave them a flawed product simply to meet a deadline.
Normally I don't respond to quotes like yours because it overlooks the overarching context of my quote. I was referencing the issue from a consumer perspective. I only responded because your quote seemed to imply I was employing a double standard regarding Apple and my place of employment. I assure you I was not. At my job, we are held accountable.
Thanks for replying, its appreciated. Although I think you're just trying to be smart rather than demonstrate common sense.
I think you also missed the point; if they held off iOS until it was 100% ready then it would mean actually holding off iPhone 6, which would also mean holding off the launch presentation as well as changing 1000s of jobs and expectations per logistics, supply changes, retail branch hiring etc. along with having phones already loaded with iOS 8 sitting in warehouses having to go back to Apple be newly installed with 8.0.1.
That would have been a great disappointment not to mention a momentous f***up on a large scale for customers and the supply chain.
Its fairly straightforward in the manner they did it had the least impact and demonstrates they respond quickly with limited impact to the client.
Improvise, adapt and overcome. That they did.
The only glitches I've had are Setting quitting for no reason a few times and one time it took several seconds to wake up with the screen not turning on, thought the phone had died but it's all okay now. Battery life is tricky, I don't think there is any real difference from iOS7. I charges it up just on 24 hours ago, used it a little yesterday but not much (no calls) and it's only down 25% in 24 hours which gives it about 3-4 days on 'standby'.
ETA - iPhone 5s, bought 12 months ago.
ETA - iPhone 5s, bought 12 months ago.
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My biggest issue is Wifi Sync with iTunes, the only way I can get it to work, is turn off iPhone 5s and turn it back on every time I want to sync over WiFi otherwise its USB.
I also do have some lag issues, noticeable just after turning on iPhone and also minor freezes.
Guess they were a bit in a rush.
I also do have some lag issues, noticeable just after turning on iPhone and also minor freezes.
Guess they were a bit in a rush.
But 98% of users use the actual phone calling very little and aren't as knowledgeable as you appear to be.
I understand your frustration. But I worked in software development for over 25 years. No software is bug-free. None.
In the software development process a list of bugs discovered during testing are kept. Each bug is rated. I'm not sure exactly what type of rating system Apple uses but most go something like 1) low, 2) medium 3) must fix, 4) SHOW STOPPER.
A Stop dare must be set otherwise software would never be released. Anything rated a SHOW STOPPER is an absolute fix prior to rollout or the rollout date has to be pushed back. This is a really, really bad thing.
'must fix' should be too but if the reason can't be found in time then a decision is made to rollout or not. In Apple's case since hardware was involved I can understand if they rollout without a fix.
And add to all this the fact that some bugs aren't found in internal testing (it's impossible to anticipate all the different things users can think of). Even public beta testing can't find them all because it's still a relatively small user sample.
As a consumer I also find it frustrating. Especially when when something as basic as wifi dropping in and out happens. Personally, although I understand the issues with development I still think Apple is a bit slow on some things. I might not think this if they were more open about acknowledging bugs. At least I would know they were working on them. As it stands, we users don't even know if Apple has decided to work on specific bugs. THAT'S the part that really frustrats me. If I just knew a fix was coming it would be better.
I have iOS 8 on both my iPhone 4s and iPad Air,I haven't noticed any bugs at all and I've been using both devices heavily.it works nicely on the aging 4s.
I found iOS 8 vastly superior to iOS 7,one great thing I noticed is the fact that those annoying and frequent Safari crashes on iPad Air are gone.
I found iOS 8 vastly superior to iOS 7,one great thing I noticed is the fact that those annoying and frequent Safari crashes on iPad Air are gone.
How can I miss my own point? I was fairly clear my comments were from a consumer perspective, and more specifically, my personal perspective. The point you keep trying to push is one I addressed in my original comment. Yes, Apple had to make decisions on releasing iOS8 based on commitments. Never said I didn't understand that. What I did say is it's not my problem or any other consumer's problem. The problems of any manufacturer are immaterial to consumers. It's the price of doing business. I give Apple no more blame nor credit than any other vendor in getting their products out the door on time and in proper working order.
Let's look at common sense. How much sense does this make:
I make a post about a subject from a consumer's perspective. In my post, I state a manufacturers issues are not a consumers concern. You reply twice regarding that post. Your first reply ignored the context of my post to imply I was applying a double standard since I probably didn't operate that way on my job. Even though what I do at work is totally unrelated to the consumer relationship, I answered anyway, trying to steer the discourse back to my original topic of consumer interest. Then you reply again with a manufacturers perspective that you assumed I missed. I didn't miss it. I don't know how to make it any clearer. Consumer perspective.
Btw, if I was trying to be a flippant, I would have given you the courtesy of one of these.
No issues
as someone who usually gets burned by these apple updates, no issues so far. Probably just jinxed it.
as someone who usually gets burned by these apple updates, no issues so far. Probably just jinxed it.
I understand completely. I have to sell the software my company's developers create. I know about bugs and differing levels of buggery. The show stopper (I like that term by the way
) is probably what Apple is experiencing with Health Kit right now, and they absolutely did the right thing. My issue is not software having bugs. I understand not all bugs can be found before release. My issue is releasing a product with known bugs that will offer a subpar experience while claiming a premium one. Will Apple fix the issues? I am supremely confident they will. As a consumer will they get my money before it's fixed? Not a dime. Once things are done to my satisfaction, my daughter gets her iP6. Like you I wish I knew when that fix was coming.Seems like a configuration issue in the Iphone, are the routers asking for a particular authentification? Ask IT about that. Then, tried in on some random router (say McD), to see if you have the same issue.
The only weird thing I've noticed so far is when I'm listening to music...sometimes playback it stops exactly like a phone call is coming in; but there's never any ring or change to the screen. Then I have to resume playback manually. This has happened to me 3 times since the day after launch.