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iOS 8.1 Brings iCloud Photo Library to All Users, With Images Accessible on iOS Devices, iCloud.com
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You'll be able to see the Photos using beta.cloud.com.
Currently you can only add photos to the library using an iOS device.
Exactly my thoughts. It seems like the total opposite! Now you need a 64GB+ iPhone besides your 64GB+ iPad to be able to use iCloud Photo Library and upload ALL your photos.
There should be an option to not download photos locally, just upload new ones. And be able to see your photos in iCloud when your are connected to Internet.
Sometimes I hate apple.
It's not there now though. I guess that part isn't in beta yet. Not sure why they wouldn't wait a bit and put them both out in beta at the same time.
Photostream does not use up your iCloud storage but only the most recent 1,000 photos are uploaded, and it's a "photo" stream which does not upload videos. iCloud Photo Library is supposed to upload all your photos and videos at full resolution and it uses your iCloud storage allowance.
Camera Roll doesn't make sense with this enabled because with this on, your phone replicates exactly what's in iCloud. There is no such thing as a photo that's only on your phone but not in iCloud or your other connected devices.
It's just one library everywhere. You make a change on one device or the web and it is reflected everywhere. Edits to photos appear everywhere. And that's exactly how it should work. The idea of a Camera Roll does not work in that scenario. There is an All Photos that replaces it.
One thing that concerns me is that videos on iCloud web still seem like lower resolution than the originals taken on my phone, even when downloaded... Anyone checked this out?
One HUGE complaint
All I want is the ability to press and hold the globe icon from keyboard on ANY keyboard and get the pop up menu of ALL my installed keyboards (I have 7) so I don't have to cycle through all of them one at a time.
The pop up menu only appears with the built in Apple Keyboard and that sucks.
I can't believe this hasn't been fixed
All I want is the ability to press and hold the globe icon from keyboard on ANY keyboard and get the pop up menu of ALL my installed keyboards (I have 7) so I don't have to cycle through all of them one at a time.
The pop up menu only appears with the built in Apple Keyboard and that sucks.
I can't believe this hasn't been fixed
This and the comeback of Camera Roll is exactly what I wanted.
I'll be able to shut that feature down ASAP, because Apple only offers a ridiculous amount of 5 GB per user, and that popup to pay to upgrade to something superior was annoying me during the betas.
I'll be able to shut that feature down ASAP, because Apple only offers a ridiculous amount of 5 GB per user, and that popup to pay to upgrade to something superior was annoying me during the betas.
It sorta makes sense. Just look at other online photo albums, you're usually shown the web version at a lower rez rather than the original. Cost Apple bandwidth to push out more than they need to. The only thing that is missing is the ability to select the original rez. I'm thinking that the 2015 Photo app will have the ability to sync the original rez.
This isn't just a backup. It's more like full library management of your photos and videos across all devices, the web, and the Mac too when the new Photos.app is released. So it's all or none.
Since Apple saw fit to eradicate all the important documents in the iWork section of icloud after upgrading to ios8, there is no way in h3ll I will allow them to delete all the photos off my iPhone and store them all in the cloud. The documents I had were truly priceless to me, I will never get them back. It was truly my lack of judgement to upload letters from my mom that I received during college, she has passed away now and I thought it would be safe to send them to the cloud. When it comes to cloud services, beware of Apple and try to use better judgement than I did.
I recommend you do not activate this. It will use a lot of Data Syncing your pictures between your iOS Devices and the Cloud. Unless you have very few photos. Also, to answer you question, your photo's will be local on your iOS Device so when looking at your pictures they will not need to be downloaded every time.
This is an option... It's been mentioned already. On each device you can choose to store a copy of everything locally, or to optimize storage and just pull device optimized versions of photos & videos as they're viewed.
Are you sure you do not have a backup of your documents? Do you use Time Machine. Check the Mobile Documents Folder.
Silly question, but when all the different device camera rolls are combined in the cloud, how does one view those photos on a different device? Example I have 40 pix on my iPad and I turned on iCloud photo. Now on my iPhone, I turn on iCloud photo and upload those 1700 photos. So the question... Where do I look on my iPhone to find the 40 iPad pix that were mashed together with the 1700 iPhone pix?
I did some spot checking and the iPad pix aren't in my iPhone albums yet. Now on the line on my iMac the photos show up on the iCloud webpage. May be it needs time to upload and balance all out.
I did some spot checking and the iPad pix aren't in my iPhone albums yet. Now on the line on my iMac the photos show up on the iCloud webpage. May be it needs time to upload and balance all out.
Apple seems to have left something very important unmentioned:
How do you *BACK UP* your iCloud Photo Library?
Sure, there's a copy of it on your iOS devices, but from what I can see the copy on the cloud is authoritative; if a photo is removed from the cloud it's removed automatically from the devices.
Photos are the most valuable, precious data most people have. Apple is completely insane if they don't offer us a way to reliably and incrementally back up our iCloud Photo Library.
EDIT: I should note that Apple DOES understand how to implement a good photo backup solution. Aperture's vault system is top-notch for backing up your photos. You can have multiple backup vaults and they can be backed up to independently. Photos you delete aren't removed from the vault; they're moved to a deleted photos folder. So it's a bit mind boggling if they don't do something similar here.
How do you *BACK UP* your iCloud Photo Library?
Sure, there's a copy of it on your iOS devices, but from what I can see the copy on the cloud is authoritative; if a photo is removed from the cloud it's removed automatically from the devices.
Photos are the most valuable, precious data most people have. Apple is completely insane if they don't offer us a way to reliably and incrementally back up our iCloud Photo Library.
EDIT: I should note that Apple DOES understand how to implement a good photo backup solution. Aperture's vault system is top-notch for backing up your photos. You can have multiple backup vaults and they can be backed up to independently. Photos you delete aren't removed from the vault; they're moved to a deleted photos folder. So it's a bit mind boggling if they don't do something similar here.
I do not own anything other than an iPad and an iPhone, the documents that were stored on both devices disappeared. The documents were there during previous iOS updates, but moving to ios 8 erased them all. In fact, simply updating the iphone causes all the issues. I hadn't even gotten around to updating the iPad before I realized all my documents were gone.
It probably needs a bit of time to upload everything. But when photos are being added by multiple devices, they'll show in the "recently added / Camera roll / All photos" (or whatever they're deciding to call it now) in chronological order.
Is it just me or is it crazy that you cant have icloud photo library active AND have synced photos from itunes?
I wish they mentioned something about that. It's the one thing you truly need to be safe about. There are ways to mitigate the risk, like keeping full copies locally on the device and doing an iTunes backup once in a while. Or more likely with the Mac photos app next year, keep a full local copy and keep the Mac fully backed up.
Could you explain exactly what you mean? Did you try to do both? And what exactly happened?
This is what's kept me from playing with it, honestly. I have about 3000 photos synced over, that I often show people when I'm out and about. (heh, not all 3000 at once). Why should I give up the ability to do that?
So far everything I've seen about this iCloud Photo Library is a complete non-starter for THIS photography enthusiast.