Let's hope Apple does not decide to buy dropbox and try to "icloudify" them. They have truly made the "cloud"services area really really confusing. It should be much simplier and much less confusing than it is currently. Have used dropbox for years now, it works, it works well, and I don't get confused and stumped about what it's doing with my documents.
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iOS 8.1 Brings iCloud Photo Library to All Users, With Images Accessible on iOS Devices, iCloud.com
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As you know this is currently in Beta. Once the Mac Photo Library is released you should be able to have a local copy of your library and then it will be backed up to Time Machine. At least that is my guess,
Rather than hating Apple maybe you should educate yourself. When you use iCloud Photos there is no space taken up on your device for photos whatsoever. Rather, spare space is used to cache photos as available, be it as full resolution or device optimized. As you fill up your device with other content less and less photos are cached, but that makes no difference as long as you have a fast connection when you open your library ALL photos will still be there via web download. This is the same was iTunes Match works.
To say this again, any device can access ALL your photos regardless of local storage limitations.
It looks like iCloud Photo Library isn't actually storing your original resolution images and videos.
After the images have been synced, when I go to iCloud and download one of the synced photos the resolution is 1536x2048, not the original 2448x3264.
I've opened a case for this and it's been escalated to developers so hopefully this will be addressed soon.
Others are reporting the same issue on the Apple Forums.
After the images have been synced, when I go to iCloud and download one of the synced photos the resolution is 1536x2048, not the original 2448x3264.
I've opened a case for this and it's been escalated to developers so hopefully this will be addressed soon.
Others are reporting the same issue on the Apple Forums.
You might want to wait...
You might want to wait on this or a few days; I have a 20 Mbps download service and it's taking three hours to get this update.
Apple needs to organize its delivery schedule to match its upload capacity, or perhaps use torrenting technology instead of single source to destination linkage.
Anticipating the typical fanboy response of "If you don't like it, go somewhere else", my reply is "Yes, I will." My iPad is the last I will ever purchase. There has just been too much disappointing behavior from Apple since they've decided to become a gadget and fashion company.
I have already dumped my old phone and bought an Android phone as a replacement; it's not perfect, but it's better than being trapped in Apple's walled garden and its ever declining value/price ratio. When my iPad (which is the third I've bought) expires, it too will be replaced by an Android device.
My Macs are going to go, too. Three have already been replaced by Linux boxes; two commercial models and one custom assembled. All are better values than what Apple has ever offered.
Within the context of microeconomics, there is something called the "sunk cost fallacy". It describes the behavior of continuing an unprofitable investment because of having already invested so much. Colloquially, this is known as "throwing good money after bad".
Many have invested significant time and money on Apple. I myself had an Apple IIe and my first Mac was a Mac Plus purchased in 1986, so I've invested more than most. But Apple has changed, and not for the better. For me to spend more for less cannot be justified and continued spending will not recover any sunk costs.
If you see Apple's walled garden for what it really is, then maybe you'll too choose freedom instead. Do not let your past investments blind you to future opportunities.
You might want to wait on this or a few days; I have a 20 Mbps download service and it's taking three hours to get this update.
Apple needs to organize its delivery schedule to match its upload capacity, or perhaps use torrenting technology instead of single source to destination linkage.
Anticipating the typical fanboy response of "If you don't like it, go somewhere else", my reply is "Yes, I will." My iPad is the last I will ever purchase. There has just been too much disappointing behavior from Apple since they've decided to become a gadget and fashion company.
I have already dumped my old phone and bought an Android phone as a replacement; it's not perfect, but it's better than being trapped in Apple's walled garden and its ever declining value/price ratio. When my iPad (which is the third I've bought) expires, it too will be replaced by an Android device.
My Macs are going to go, too. Three have already been replaced by Linux boxes; two commercial models and one custom assembled. All are better values than what Apple has ever offered.
Within the context of microeconomics, there is something called the "sunk cost fallacy". It describes the behavior of continuing an unprofitable investment because of having already invested so much. Colloquially, this is known as "throwing good money after bad".
Many have invested significant time and money on Apple. I myself had an Apple IIe and my first Mac was a Mac Plus purchased in 1986, so I've invested more than most. But Apple has changed, and not for the better. For me to spend more for less cannot be justified and continued spending will not recover any sunk costs.
If you see Apple's walled garden for what it really is, then maybe you'll too choose freedom instead. Do not let your past investments blind you to future opportunities.
In that case wait for it to go final, and to have the Mac Photos app ready. The whole purpose is to have a unified photo library that's synced live across all your iOS devices and Macs. It's going to remove the need for iPhoto and the manual syncing of photos through iTunes. It's just not 100% ready yet.
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Are you talking about Photos on iCloud.com? They're just showing web optimized versions. Full versions are stored in iCloud Photo library. If you copy them off of a device you can see.
Storage is way too expensive. I have a 75GB Aperture library. There's no way I'm paying huge monthly fees to keep that whole thing in the cloud. And now that Aperture and iPhoto are being discontinued, I guess I have to find another photo library manager.
Why is managing photos so complicated? Now we have camera roll, photo stream and iCloud photo library.
What Apple should do is get rid it all and just have iCloud Photo Library. Any photo you take/delete is reflected on all devices in a single library. I don't need each of my devices to have a "camera roll". I don't care what device I used to take a photo, all I care about is if the photo is stored on my laptop.
*head explodes*
What Apple should do is get rid it all and just have iCloud Photo Library. Any photo you take/delete is reflected on all devices in a single library. I don't need each of my devices to have a "camera roll". I don't care what device I used to take a photo, all I care about is if the photo is stored on my laptop.
*head explodes*
I'm not sure what you mean by this. Where is "iCloud Photo Library" and how do I access it?
I went to iCloud.com and went into "iCloud Photos". There, it shows all my photos and when you click on one there is a "download" button in the upper right corner.
That is where I'm downloading the file. I was assuming that was where the originals were stored "in the cloud".
There is no such thing as showing only certain synced photos on a device with iCloud Photo Library. Think of it like how IMAP email works rather than POP. Every device has all your photos. It's great because you no longer have to worry about managing different photos on different devices. You always have access to everything. Edits sync to every device. Delete something from your library and you don't have to remember to delete it in multiple different places. It's just one library. Simple and easy. It's what lots of people have been wanting for a long time.
Super confusing and un-elegant rollout (with the central piece, the Mac app, coming sometime next year, for example).
I have a huge iPhoto library, many years of photos and videos collected, events created, people tagged. I'm genuinely scared how this all will go, will I lose something, have some duplicates nighmare or something like that. I simply don't trust Apple anymore. :/
I have a huge iPhoto library, many years of photos and videos collected, events created, people tagged. I'm genuinely scared how this all will go, will I lose something, have some duplicates nighmare or something like that. I simply don't trust Apple anymore. :/
Looks like you have not actually tried it. You loose "camera roll" when you activate. Seems to work the way you want.
I'm with ya. I appreciate the cloud, but there seems to be more unintentional deletions/duplications when using the cloud.
Thank you. That is what I thought. I live out in the sticks. Haha. Pretty, but I sure would love some wifi. My Verizon 6 g plan does not go very far. I wonder if I can set it to only upload/sync on wifi? I am thinking that I can, but I would still want a local copy for viewing my pics at home or when free wifi is not available?
My question exactly; if I wander around for the day on 3G/LTE taking pictures, I don't necessarily want them uploading as I take them. Instead, I would expect that when I get home and onto WiFi, those photos taken during the day are uploaded then replaced with device-optimized versions for viewing at some point after syncing.
Assuming this is the workflow with the beta?
Assuming this is the workflow with the beta?
True. Apple should make this standard. I see "All Photos", but I can't see older photos in the cloud.
in iCloud you can say to only upload documents on Wifi. Did not see the same for Photos. Maybe it will come later. Or maybe it will use the iCloud setting. Remember still Beta.
Still ridiculous you can't view the pictures in Finder under the iCloud Drive folder.
And no iOS iCloud Drive app.
Apple's cloud drive platform is awful besides being baked in which other services can't do. That's the only thing they have going for them which has an advantage over anyone else.
And no iOS iCloud Drive app.
Apple's cloud drive platform is awful besides being baked in which other services can't do. That's the only thing they have going for them which has an advantage over anyone else.
