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in iCloud you can say to only upload documents on Wifi. Did not see the same for Photos. Maybe it will come later. Or maybe it will use the iCloud setting. Remember still Beta.

Good point. I take a pic here and there. Show it to a friend or share on Facebook. I will do some reading on the whole thing and be patient.
 
I turned this on but then disabled it. Still way too many questions about how this works to take a risk with my photos.

The main thing I need is syncing with iPhoto, which Photo Stream does but this does not. Will need to wait until the Mac Photo App comes out next year before looking at turning this on again, but I have several hundred gigabytes of family photos and videos on my main computer, and paying Apple an enormous amount of money to store those on the web would make no sense.
 
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So you can't upload an iPhoto Library or photos in general via iCloud.com on the Mac?:( How does Apple expect Mac users to get their iPhoto libraries previously synced through iTunes into iCloud Photo Library so we can see them on iOS devices?

Looks like the answer is "wait for the Photos app for Mac in early 2015"...huh? Than why would I activate this now only to be able to get photos I've taken starting from the day I activate it into the cloud? If these iOS 8 + Yosemite staggered release features are confusing Apple-geeks like me than average users will be totally lost!
 
As you know this is currently in Beta. Once the Mac Photo Library is released you should be able to have a local copy of your library and then it will be backed up to Time Machine. At least that is my guess,

If this is true, Apple should perhaps TELL US a bit about this mystical Photos.app for Mac.

What has made this frustrating is Apple giving us so little information. I realize they have a policy of not talking about future products. In this case, though, they announced the discontinuation of Aperture and vaguely announced its replacement with no real information.

They could have done this a lot better.
 
When using iCloud Photo Library, why exactly would one need the Camera Roll when Recently Added serves the same purpose?

It's essentially a name change, since photos can be added to the library by multiple methods in addition to the camera (iPad, Mac).

You obviously don't have a lot of devices. Here's an example. I often snap photos of something like a page from a book as a simple note of something.

The other night, I backed up my wife's iPhone photos to iPhoto on my Mac, so it added around 1,000 photos all at once.

With the camera roll, I could quickly go to those photos I took as notes, completely separate from all the other photos from other devices. With the new Recently Added, all of those 1,000 photos were showing up last, and it took me forever to find those simple photos.

Still think it's the same?

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This service in general seems like such a terrible mess. I can't believe it doesn't even do what Photo Stream has been doing.

And 5 GB is ridiculous when Flickr is offering 1 TB for free right now. Apple doesn't have to go that far, but 5 GB? Come on! :rolleyes:
 
really..it seems some people in this thread really want their photos in the cloud...hopefully nobody could access them....via cloud.
 
Looks like you have not actually tried it. You loose "camera roll" when you activate. Seems to work the way you want.

Loose is when something is not tight. The word you want is spelled lose as in lost. Yes, lose sounds as though it should have double oo, but it does not. Phonetically spelling lose as loose is a common mistake.

Cordially,
 
Okay, backed up, switched it on and did some quick testing.

If you are on WiFi, pictures taken on a device get synced up to iCloud nearly instantly and pushed down to linked devices just as quickly.

If you are on 3G/LTE, photos are stored locally with a nice message at the bottom of the list that says:

Wi-If Required - # Photos to Upload

so thankfully Apple assumes you don't want to eat through all your phone data just to sync to iCloud.

Simple question: are photos only uploaded to iCloud Photo Library via WiFi like Photostream?
 
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Anyone know how to setup/use the SMS relay?

also in my FaceTime settings, I get "Cannot Turn on iPhone Cellular Calls"

"FaceTime and iCloud must be signed in to the same Apple ID to use iPhone Cellular Calls."

Also important to note, this stuff (with the exception of SMS Relay/Mac Speakerphone Calling) was working prior to upgrade. Now notta. Anyone else having these problems?

Edit: Found the settings to turn on the SMS relay....it doesn't work. None of this stuff will turn on anymore. lame apple, very lame.
 
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Anyone know how to setup/use the SMS relay?

also in my FaceTime settings, I get "Cannot Turn on iPhone Cellular Calls"

"FaceTime and iCloud must be signed in to the same Apple ID to use iPhone Cellular Calls."

Also important to note, this stuff (with the exception of SMS Relay/Mac Speakerphone Calling) was working prior to upgrade. Now notta. Anyone else having these problems?

I got that "same apple id" message. signing out and signing back in fixed it. be sure you use the same email address for both, even if they're different email addresses linked to the same apple id.

To turn on SMS relay do it under the messages settings on your iPhone and select the devices you want to forward to.
 
I got that "same apple id" message. signing out and signing back in fixed it. be sure you use the same email address for both, even if they're different email addresses linked to the same apple id.

To turn on SMS relay do it under the messages settings on your iPhone and select the devices you want to forward to.

I signed out of FaceTime on the phone but not iCloud. I'm worried about what that would do to my iCloud data such as contacts, reminders, notes, etc. Any Idea?
 
obnoxious. We all know what he meant.

Loose is when something is not tight. The word you want is spelled lose as in lost. Yes, lose sounds as though it should have double oo, but it does not. Phonetically spelling lose as loose is a common mistake.

Cordially,
 
iCloud drive is killing me. Right now I have no way of seeing all of the folders I made with all of the pictures I put in it. As we all know as of now if you activate iCloud Photo Library it will upload whats currently on your iPhone but there is no way to add other pictures to it until they release the Photos App for the Mac in January. Sooo I thought a work around would be create folders for all of my other 1000's of pics and add them to iCloud drive so I can still view them on my iPhone. Well for some strange reason Apple decided not to add a way to natively view whats in your iCloud drive on iOS unless you go through 3rd parties who support it.
Ive always supported Apple but this is a mess.
And like others here have said is there anyway to determine or switch on or off if all of the pics/vids you take can be done over wifi only so it dosent eat up your data?
 
Is anyone else unable to play back their slow motion videos from the iPhone 6 back in slow motion on their iPad air?

Only slow motion photos work for me are the ones sent to me. Ones I filmed do not play in slo motion. I thought 8.1 fixed this or at least someone told me it did in one of the betas
 
I turned this on but then disabled it. Still way too many questions about how this works to take a risk with my photos.

The main thing I need is syncing with iPhoto, which Photo Stream does but this does not. Will need to wait until the Mac Photo App comes out next year before looking at turning this on again, but I have several hundred gigabytes of family photos and videos on my main computer, and paying Apple an enormous amount of money to store those on the web would make no sense.

Same here. I actually used .tiff for my photos, as the originals are stored in iPhoto, and all the edits in iPhoto are reversible. My library is about 200GB. There are a few videos as well, but the majority is due to the large sizes of the .tiff files.

Given that I'm not a photographer, I've thought about just converting them all to .jpeg and using that for my library. But until the Photos app for Mac comes out, I'll hold tight. I upgraded to the $0.99 option for 20GB, but I can't see myself paying any more than that.
 
You obviously don't have a lot of devices. Here's an example. I often snap photos of something like a page from a book as a simple note of something.

The other night, I backed up my wife's iPhone photos to iPhoto on my Mac, so it added around 1,000 photos all at once.

With the camera roll, I could quickly go to those photos I took as notes, completely separate from all the other photos from other devices. With the new Recently Added, all of those 1,000 photos were showing up last, and it took me forever to find those simple photos.

I hate to say "you're doing it wrong" but I do have a suggestion that could apply to you as well as others. With the concept of iCloud photos or even shared photo libraries where external programs merged libraries into iPhoto, there is a concept of time and events. AppleTVs and other devices can make slideshows of these.

Let's take an example of my extended family. They have a great setup where AppleTV shows all the recent events from both of their iPhone photos as well as DSLR photos. They love it, but hate when random pictures of things they wanted to remember or buy show up. My recommendation is to use a program like Evernote to store these items. It's much better for organization, in my opinion. This is just my technique.

It would be nice if Apple kept screenshots in their own album and allowed tagging of photos such as the "remember this" photos to not show up in screensaver or timelines, but currently they do not.
 
With the camera roll back, I have re-discovered pictures I didn't know I had! With the previous system in the photos, it was so hard to scroll through the dates making me miss a lot of photos.
 
For those worried about backing up data via iCloud Photo Library and iCloud Drive - you don't.

iCloud Photo Library and iCloud Drive work exactly like dropbox. The files are stored in iCloud then pushed to your devices.

I setup my mac without a time machine backup when moving from Yosemite beta to official and all my files from iCloud Drive were pushed onto my mac (10,000+ photos). Same with Photo Library. I setup my device as new shortly after 8.1 and all my photos (several hundred) were downloaded onto my device (and no it wasn't photo stream).
 
IOS 8.1 will not allow me to pair my Imac or my Power mac with my IPHONE 6 plus using blue tooth.
 
I enabled, found nothing on either iOS devices and iCloud. So I disabled and still can't get the photos back on my iOS devices. Rechecked "sync photos" in iTunes, but nothing seems to work. Is this happening to everyone? The photos are in iPhoto Library on the Mac but nothing on the iOS devices. :q

EDIT: Ok, this seems to be a small bug. I had to check "Selected albums, Events, and Faces...", sync, then recheck "All Photos, albums, events..." and re-sync to get the photos back.
 
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Anyone know how to setup/use the SMS relay?

also in my FaceTime settings, I get "Cannot Turn on iPhone Cellular Calls"

"FaceTime and iCloud must be signed in to the same Apple ID to use iPhone Cellular Calls."

Also important to note, this stuff (with the exception of SMS Relay/Mac Speakerphone Calling) was working prior to upgrade. Now notta. Anyone else having these problems?

Edit: Found the settings to turn on the SMS relay....it doesn't work. None of this stuff will turn on anymore. lame apple, very lame.

As the other guy said, you need to make sure Apple ID email addresses are exactly the same on all devices. For example, if your main Apple ID email address is @gmail.com but you also have an @icloud.com address through Apple, just make sure all devices are signed in to iCloud with the same address.
 
Storing ALL of your photos in iCloud is asking for a trouble. Me? ZERO. iCloud is permanently disabled. I have never dealt with a bigger POS in my life.

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