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The sheer amount of app bloat from having a ton of images in multiple resolutions is the reason why selling any 8GB or 16GB devices today is rather criminal.
 
So there will be more than 400 ppi? And the resolution will be 4096*3072 (twice than ipad air)...Dan riccio will said like this " The text will sharper...."
 
This would be nice. I think the higher res on the phones is really overrated to a certain extent. Is it a little nicer? Sure. Is the 6 Plus mind-glowingly better than the 6? Absolutely not. But on the 9.7" iPads, it's a bit of a different story. I don't think it'll make a tremendous difference, but it'll be more noticeable and appreciated there then on the 6 Plus. On my Retina Mini, I'm pretty happy with a DPI in the 300s, so even if they just bumped it up to match the DPI of the Retina Mini/iPhone 6, I'd be happy.
 
The original iPad was 132dpi, and the Retina iPad 264dpi. Extrapolating, a 3x "Retina HD" iPad would be 396dpi, which is nearly an exact match for the 401dpi used in the iPhone 6 Plus.

So it wouldn't surprise me if the iPad Air 2 were to get an ever-so-slightly smaller display (9.6") at exactly 401dpi, with a 3072x2304 "Retina HD" resolution. This would exactly mirror the situation with the iPhone 4/4s/5/5s/6 (326dpi) and Retina iPad Mini (326dpi) sharing the same resolution.

I think they are going to deploy 4k mirroring on apple tv via iPad. In that sense 3x UI elements would correspond to UI for 4k resolution screen.
 
The increased resolution on the iPhone 6 Plus is barely noticeable. The display itself is overall better—but the increased resolution contributes little to this. I don't really see the point of running a mobile device at such a ridiculous resolution. The iPad is held much further away than the iPhone. I think Apple might keep the iPad Air running @3X and the Mini @2X. The Air is the only device that's on the low end of the scale for retina. It should be considered premium over the iPad Mini, just like the iPhone 6 Plus. I have a feeling the Air is also going to get 2GB of RAM and split screen multitasking, and the Mini won't.
 
I'm concerned about heat/performance/throttling/battery issues.
Hope this isn't a repeat of the iPad 3.

There won't be heat or throttling issue for sure (with the A8).

But, performance could be an issue if they keep the same GPU at the same speed as in the 6+; don't think they will. Either they clock the A8 significantly higher or they use the 6 core power VR.

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And people are complaining about lag on the iPhone 6+...

What people? The 6+ is more powerful than the Ipad air and has a similar resolution! If there is ANY lag (I don't see any myself), it is not because of the CPU or GPU, but because of bugs in IOS 8.
 
I'm pretty darn happy with my iPad Air. They are going to have to do a lot more than better resolution to make me want to upgrade!

I agree. I've had every ipad, I always tell myself I won't get it unless they add a certain feature. I won't get the Ipad 2 unless it's thinner or the 3 unless it's got a retina screen and so on. I don't have anything in mind that would be a feature to upgrade the Air.
 
I thought Apple would focus on making the iPad Air thinner this update and leave a 3x display for, say, next year. Rumors still point to the Air being thinner, which of course doesn't exclude the possibility of 3x, but if the 2014 Air has 3x then it could presumably be even thinner if it stayed at 2x.

The original iPad was 132dpi, and the Retina iPad 264dpi. Extrapolating, a 3x "Retina HD" iPad would be 396dpi, which is nearly an exact match for the 401dpi used in the iPhone 6 Plus.

So it wouldn't surprise me if the iPad Air 2 were to get an ever-so-slightly smaller display (9.6") at exactly 401dpi, with a 3072x2304 "Retina HD" resolution. This would exactly mirror the situation with the iPhone 4/4s/5/5s/6 (326dpi) and Retina iPad Mini (326dpi) sharing the same resolution.
That's what I was thinking too when they announced the iPhone 6 Plus would have a 401 dpi screen, that it's a convenient number for a 3x iPad Air.

If the iPad Air does go 3x, it seems likely there will be a A8X to drive it, which can be shared with the iPad Pro. The iPad Mini could then share the A8 with the iPhones if it doesn't go 3x.
I'm in the same boat, I also thought that 401 PPI would be a very plausible PPI for a 3x iPad Air. And yes, I think that the iPad Air will have an A8X* iff it has a 3x display. I even wonder if the choice of display resolution for the 6 Plus had anything to do with the plans for a 3x Retina iPad Air, assuming the latter is real.

* Or any SoC that is distinct from and more powerful than the A8.
 
I dont have a iphone 6 yet but do people see a noticeable difference between "retina" and "retina hd" ? I thought anything higher than retina was indiscernible to the human eye ?

Depends on your vision, where you look at you phone (inside vs outside, fluorescent, at night), what's on the screen (High contrast UI elements would show it the most, dark video content the least), the distance and angle you routinely read your phone.

You'd see the most difference, if you're eyes are good enough, if you're reading a lot of black text on light background.

People mention studies that you can distinguish up to 550ppi. But, on thing they fail to mention is that those studies are done with very high contrast printed material under good lighting using people with good vision.

A LCD or Amoled screen doesn't have this sharpness and contrast in all ambient lights; this becomes even more true as the device ages.
 
The increased resolution on the iPhone 6 Plus is barely noticeable. The display itself is overall better—but the increased resolution contributes little to this. I don't really see the point of running a mobile device at such a ridiculous resolution. The iPad is held much further away than the iPhone. I think Apple might keep the iPad Air running @3X and the Mini @2X. The Air is the only device that's on the low end of the scale for retina. It should be considered premium over the iPad Mini, just like the iPhone 6 Plus. I have a feeling the Air is also going to get 2GB of RAM and split screen multitasking, and the Mini won't.

Keep in mind 90% of the apps are not updated for the iPhone 6 resolutions, they look much bigger than they should be because they're scaled upward.

Each time I see an app update released to support iPhone 6, people give positive reviews that the app looks much better and they can tell the difference.
 
This would be nice. I think the higher res on the phones is really overrated to a certain extent. Is it a little nicer? Sure. Is the 6 Plus mind-glowingly better than the 6? Absolutely not. But on the 9.7" iPads, it's a bit of a different story. I don't think it'll make a tremendous difference, but it'll be more noticeable and appreciated there then on the 6 Plus. On my Retina Mini, I'm pretty happy with a DPI in the 300s, so even if they just bumped it up to match the DPI of the Retina Mini/iPhone 6, I'd be happy.

You're correct.

iPhone 6 has the same PPI as Retina iPad mini and iPhone 5/5S. It's the panel and size itself that's been improved a lot, not the PPI (what many people confused as resolution). A lot of people have talked about how Retina HD displays feels like it is printed (because the distance between panel and glass is reduced).

iPad Air has the PPI of 264, an increase to 401 would be a bigger jump than from iPhone 6 (326) to iPhone 6 Plus (401).
 
Current 'Retina' iPads
2,048 x 1,536 pixels
3,145,728 pixels
(3.15 megapixels).

Proposed 'Retina HD' iPad Air 2
3,072 x 2,304 pixels
7,077,888 pixels
(7.1 megapixels).

So let's hope they beef up the GPU because that is MORE THAN DOUBLE the pixels of the current iPads that need to be rendered. Even though it's only a 33% increase in density, it's 125% more pixels.

They say the stock A8 processor has 50% more GPU power. So if we wanted to maintain the performance we have now on current iPads, we could only render out about 5.2 megapixels (5,242,880 pixels), or roughly a resolution of:

Stock A8 with 50% GPU improvement over A7 could yield:
2,643 x 1,984 pixels
with performance parity over current iPads.

Not enough juice to reach @3x Retina HD.

In other words, to be able to render a 3,072 x 2,304 pixel @3x display, we need the A8X to be at least 50% more powerful than the stock A8. A couple more cores might achieve that?
 
Keep in mind 90% of the apps are not updated for the iPhone 6 resolutions, they look much bigger than they should be because they're scaled upward.

Each time I see an app update released to support iPhone 6, people give positive reviews that the app looks much better and they can tell the difference.

I'm talking about the pixel pitch. The extra real estate is always appreciated and why I bought mine. That's what people notice. You see those old apps are being blown up to a bigger size (with huge keyboards that are a pain to use), which is always going to look cruddy. The iPad going up in resolution means the apps won't be blown up. The UI scale is the same, just slightly sharper. My review of the iPhone 6 Plus pixel pitch is in apps that are native or have been updated. The sharpness of the text, for instance, is nearly imperceptible unless you're extremely close to the screen and looking for it. The difference on the iPad will be far less striking as we aren't getting any more real estate. The screen is still the same size. That is, until the iPad Pro. I also think the iPad Air 2nd generation will get split screen muktitasking, so that will be handy.
 
I'm concerned about heat/performance/throttling/battery issues.
Hope this isn't a repeat of the iPad 3.

Performance issues? Sitting here with an iPad 3 that performs as expected running 8.1. Heat in that model was largely due to the backlight.

Hey more performance is always welcomed and in fact is why I'm waiting for +2GB of RAM in an iPad. Considering A8 is apparently running cooler yet at a higher performance level I don't think we have an issue. In fact it looks like Apple could add several hundred NHz to the clock rate and still keep the thermals below previous hardware.
 
there is no use to put even higher res than the current ipad, it's plain stupid if apple do that.

even if they put 2 gb of ram.

increased resolution=more ram usage=safari reload is not fixed even with 2gb then apple is doooomeeeeeddddd
 
I dont have a iphone 6 yet but do people see a noticeable difference between "retina" and "retina hd" ? I thought anything higher than retina was indiscernible to the human eye ?

I used to have an iPhone 5... and now got an iPhone 6 Plus. I have perfect 20/20 vision, too. But... well... It seems like the 6+ display is a bit better... color-wise. And it generally feels a bit better, probably because the cover glass is also thinner... but other than that, the increased resolution is pretty much unnoticeable. Your perception is skewed anyways with the 6+, given that the display itself is just sooo much bigger.

So while here the difference is rather small, I have to say, that back in the day I did notice a Galaxy SIII's Pen-Tile display... Now THAT really WAS noticable!

As always YMMV.

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The increased resolution on the iPhone 6 Plus is barely noticeable. The display itself is overall better—but the increased resolution contributes little to this. I don't really see the point of running a mobile device at such a ridiculous resolution. The iPad is held much further away than the iPhone. I think Apple might keep the iPad Air running @3X and the Mini @2X. The Air is the only device that's on the low end of the scale for retina. It should be considered premium over the iPad Mini, just like the iPhone 6 Plus. I have a feeling the Air is also going to get 2GB of RAM and split screen multitasking, and the Mini won't.

Haha. I should have read your comment first... you beat me to it :D
 
I'm pretty darn happy with my iPad Air. They are going to have to do a lot more than better resolution to make me want to upgrade!

I don't think anybody expects you to upgrade a year old tablet. For the rest of us this could be the update that causes us to go for it.
 
The original iPad was 132dpi, and the Retina iPad 264dpi. Extrapolating, a 3x "Retina HD" iPad would be 396dpi, which is nearly an exact match for the 401dpi used in the iPhone 6 Plus.

So it wouldn't surprise me if the iPad Air 2 were to get an ever-so-slightly smaller display (9.6") at exactly 401dpi, with a 3072x2304 "Retina HD" resolution. This would exactly mirror the situation with the iPhone 4/4s/5/5s/6 (326dpi) and Retina iPad Mini (326dpi) sharing the same resolution.

I was nodding along until you said 9.6". No. Nope. Never. Not gonna happen.
Neat coincidence that the math works out that the resolution would match the 6+ at that size... however- sadly, this does NOT equal Half-Life 3 confirmed.
Apple wouldn't shrink their flagship iPad & (rightly so), none of us would stand for it.
 
Retina Display: Perfect
Retina HD Display: Perfecter


I love high dpi and I think I would notice the difference, but honestly I have no idea why they are doing this. It is going to have a pretty serious performance hit for no real upside. If they include an ultra fast A8X processor, I can kind of see this making sense, but... meh.
 
The "new iPad Air" anyone? I'll pass. I don't want to be on a crap cycle like the iPad 3 again with crap performance and heat.
 
Performance issues? Sitting here with an iPad 3 that performs as expected running 8.1. Heat in that model was largely due to the backlight.

Hey more performance is always welcomed and in fact is why I'm waiting for +2GB of RAM in an iPad. Considering A8 is apparently running cooler yet at a higher performance level I don't think we have an issue. In fact it looks like Apple could add several hundred NHz to the clock rate and still keep the thermals below previous hardware.

I've had...bad experiences with the iPad 3.
 
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