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iOS 8.2 Could See Public Release Next Week, Two More Betas of iOS 8.3 to Come

macrumors4leo said:
I'm amazed more people aren't pissed off about this. I cannot believe how poorly this came out in iOS 8.

I consistently have to quit the messages app just to be able to type using SwiftKey. It even affect the Mail app pretty regularly now. And of course, half the the time, I can't start a Spotlight search.

It's pretty bad really, and I'm hoping that iOS 8.3 is the update that takes care of this. iOS8 has been the buggiest iOS I've ever experienced.
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Third Party keyboards?
How about Apple's OWN standalone keyboard. For major data input, I currently use an Apple keyboard with my iPad Air 2.
Getting an IOS device to recognize my Apple keyboard can be an exercise in total frustration.
On top of that is the need to use the touch interface for input, and the related difficulty of getting the on-screen keyboard to pop up when I want to use an emoji or something similar.
I'd like to see Apple address this seemingly simple issue with their own keyboards before I have any faith in their ability to deal with third party keyboards...
 
Mliii said:
Third Party keyboards?
How about Apple's OWN standalone keyboard. For major data input, I currently use an Apple keyboard with my iPad Air 2.
Getting an IOS device to recognize my Apple keyboard can be an exercise in total frustration.
On top of that is the need to use the touch interface for input, and the related difficulty of getting the on-screen keyboard to pop up when I want to use an emoji or something similar.
I'd like to see Apple address this seemingly simple issue with their own keyboards before I have any faith in their ability to deal with third party keyboards...
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He was talking about software keyboards like Swiftkey. You are talking about hardware keyboards.
 
swordfish5736 said:
they are reporting what they know, 8.3 will bring emoji and other improvements. I don't see how that translates to: the only thing apple is working on is emoji. There couldn't possibly be a new music service, stability improvements and other bug fixes coming. :rolleyes:
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You may be may be right, but this is what MR posted
iOS 8.3 brings several new features to the operating system, most notably introducing a redesigned emoji picker and adding both new emoji and emoji skin tone modifiers.
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Max(IT) said:
Actually it helps, because let the complainer know that it isn't an universally known issue and there is hope to solve it.
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1) How does it help someone with a problem that your device works fine for you? It looks like useless information to me without any further advice. And i don't think people come here looking for hope. They want a solution.

2) There could be still some kind of universal bug/problem for a specific configuration. There a lot of variables. What makes you think that your statement applies to all devices? Your just as wrong as someone who says iOS sucks for everyone, because my device has bug XY.

marvz said:
That wasn't my point.

It's about their extrapolation that they infer their experience is everyone else's and complaining about "Apple is a stupid piece of ****" who doesn't know how to make software/hardware. They wouldn't be there where they are if it would be true. Apple's combination of hardware and software is as perfect as it can be for mass product.
I'm happy to help people with their problems but most of the time they are just ranting about Apple and iOS as crappy software and that annoys me.
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Why do these rants personally affect you? I mean it is just tech. People come here to find help and they complain, because something doesn't work. And yes it often doesn't sound very nice, but i can understand it a little bit. They payed a hefty premium compared to e.g. cheap android devices and expect something better from Apple. In my perspective Apple's software quality slowly degraded in the last years. It is not like that the products are totally unusable, but a lot of little bugs came to public releases and some of them don't get fixed for years. In my opignon it is not as perfect as it can be for a mass product. Their massive hardware sales have nothing to do with their software. There is still room for improvement these days.
 
For those who are relying on the fixes addressed in this release I wish you the best of luck - but I'm glad I'm not you.

I'm not budging until a must-have feature comes along or by restorative necessity.
 
Narcaz said:
1) How does it help someone with a problem that your device works fine for you? It looks like useless information to me without any further advice. And i don't think people come here looking for hope. They want a solution.

2) There could be still some kind of universal bug/problem for a specific configuration. There a lot of variables. What makes you think that your statement applies to all devices? Your just as wrong as someone who says iOS sucks for everyone, because my device has bug XY.



Why do these rants personally affect you? I mean it is just tech. People come here to find help and they complain, because something doesn't work. And yes it often doesn't sound very nice, but i can understand it a little bit. They payed a hefty premium compared to e.g. cheap android devices and expect something better from Apple. In my perspective Apple's software quality slowly degraded in the last years. It is not like that the products are totally unusable, but a lot of little bugs came to public releases and some of them don't get fixed for years. In my opignon it is not as perfect as it can be for a mass product. Their massive hardware sales have nothing to do with their software. There is still room for improvement these days.
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It can help as far as showing how common or widespread an issue is or isn't. It can help from the point of view that someone with an issue seeing that many others aren't habing it might decide to keep on troubleshooting it and perhaps even resolve it in some way instead of perhaps incorrectly thinking and hoping and waiting for Apple to do something about it which might not happen if it's some odd glitch or an issue that's really not widrspread and perhaps hard to reproduce on other devices and configurations.

Sure it'd dosn't help if someone says I don't have this issue so it doesn't exist and you should stop talking about it. But simply saying I don't have this issue can in itself provide some information even indirectly, and at the very least isn't any less helpful than someone posting that I have this issue and that's it.
 
lkrupp said:
Why fix something that already works perfectly? I’m having no trouble with either. 8.1.3 is quite stable no matter what the League of the Perpetually Dissatisfied says.
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Typical MacRumors user. Just because YOU don't have problems, it doesn't mean that others don't.
 
sualpine said:
Your logic is useless here. All of the sudden, Apple is expected to work with every router made since 1996. Unfortunately, that's the market size that the iPhone has expanded into. Of course there will be configurations it won't excel in. There is no way to test against that many possibilities. If only Apple made their own router that it was tested against.....
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Im having this issue and I have the latest apple time capsule
 
PowerBook-G5 said:
Typical MacRumors user. Just because YOU don't have problems, it doesn't mean that others don't.
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The converse is also true, just because You got a problem, doesn't mean the OS is broken down and Apple is garbage... I see a lot of that kind of things and this hyperbole is very annoying.

The ideal would people not generalizing :
- IOS 8 is not broken, works well for most, yet
- A small group of users have significant issues (mostly network problems)
(while a slightly larger group has issues that are slight annoyances).

Both these things can be true at the exact same time.


It is even possible that many WIFI/BT issues that can't be resolved in software are in fact some rare manufacturing issue. With 120M new phones out there by the end of March, even if only 0.025% were defective, you'd get 30K phones. Getting the phone swapped in this case would be the only solution.
 
zorinlynx said:
This has been fixed for a while; I used to have the problem but it went away in 8.1.

Are you sure it's not your network at this point?
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For me it started with ios8 and iPhone 6 plus then went away but it sure is back again and pretty annoying too. Wifi will just drop but shows its still toggled on have to turn it off then back on again
 
rekhyt said:
What's the point of adding updates to iOS 8 when iOS 9 is about to come out really soon?

Why not just focus on integrating the updates into iOS 9?
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Because ios 9 isn't coming for at least another half a hear. That's not exactly soon or close to that. And there are also different teams working on it all so it's not like they can't make improvements to ios 8 and still get them to iOS 9 in addition to other things as well.
 
Likewise. I tried everything and never got handoff to work consistently.

brianvictor7 said:
I wish I could say I have had a consistently good experience with Handoff/Continuity even before my most recent hangup with it.

Right now, I can't get it to work at all. I reinstalled OS X last week to reclaim some hard drive space (apparently if you run file-vault, you can't reclaim space from a boot camp volume you no longer use ... long story). Anyway, I can't get Handoff and Continuity to work anymore between my Mac and iPhone. It did work more or less alright before the reformat. Yes, I've tried logging out of iCloud and logging back in, ensured the settings were where they were supposed to be according to the help files out there. Basically, I'm stumped.
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groovyd said:
Two more of their services/features I never use... guess you really need a phone to make use of most of this stuff huh? :)
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It is supposed to also work between an iPad and Mac. Just goes to show Apple isn't perfect, like every other company. I'm sure they'll get this hammered out, but it will probably take a while.
 
Altis said:
In one case, you have people posting that they have a problem. This is completely optional but can be helpful to the cause.

In the other case, you have people who have no problem reading about people with problems (usually in threads that are titled as such) and complaining that they have no problems thus everyone should, I suspect, keep quiet about their problems. That you have no problems changes nothing of the fact that people do have problems. Perhaps you don't use the same device, or use it in the same way, or don't consider certain things problems (like iOS 7.0 being slow as molasses yet some people said it was just 'fine').

People that have problems with their expensive devices want solutions, thus they have reason discuss. I can't think much of reasons why someone who is bothered by this and has no problems of their own would then proceed to read them.

Honestly, that you made the comparison at all is really something.
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If it was "usually in threads titled as such" I don't think as many people would protest that they are not having that problem. In truth the complainants usually posts their complaint to every thread wether it concerns their problem or not.
 
elgrecomac said:
I just hope that iOS 8.2 or 3 will make my ipad 2 run like it did on iOS 7: faster, less crashes.

:eek:
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Ipad 2s reportedly run very good with the latest OS. What issues re you having? We have a couple of second gen ipads in the house and while they were a little dodgy with the initial iOS 8 release they work fine with 8.1.3.

????
 
Narcaz said:
1) How does it help someone with a problem that your device works fine for you? It looks like useless information to me without any further advice. And i don't think people come here looking for hope. They want a solution.

2) There could be still some kind of universal bug/problem for a specific configuration. There a lot of variables. What makes you think that your statement applies to all devices? Your just as wrong as someone who says iOS sucks for everyone, because my device has bug XY.



Why do these rants personally affect you? I mean it is just tech. People come here to find help and they complain, because something doesn't work. And yes it often doesn't sound very nice, but i can understand it a little bit. They payed a hefty premium compared to e.g. cheap android devices and expect something better from Apple. In my perspective Apple's software quality slowly degraded in the last years. It is not like that the products are totally unusable, but a lot of little bugs came to public releases and some of them don't get fixed for years. In my opignon it is not as perfect as it can be for a mass product. Their massive hardware sales have nothing to do with their software. There is still room for improvement these days.
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You are being very naive about real motivations behind serial complainers here....
 
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