iOS 8 Adoption Hits 87% Ahead of iOS 9 Release

[_Refurbished_]

Major purpose of iOS 9 is maturity.

The irony of this post is that I had to hit the safari icon twice to get here to respond to you. I'm on iOS 9.

Also, iOS 9 being a "speed and stability" release is a PR move to get people off their back about how inconsistent their software has been.
Unfortunately, when iOS 9.0 comes out and it's a lagfest, the intelligent people will realize they were lied to, while the rest finish their glass of cold Apple Kool Aid and claim the release as "buttery smooth".

 

[_Refurbished_]

Double post

 

[venomgt95]

Double post

I always say wait about a week for things to calm down, see how the OS affects your friends/families devices before you possibly neuter your own.

 

[spencers]

After trying 9.0 and 9.1, I'll be staying on 8.4.1 until the OS matures. Say no to lag.

I've been wondering what people are saying about iOS 9 speed versus 8.4.x. Yeah, I think I'll avoid temptation and stick with my jailbreak.

 

[stars_fan]

If you can indulge my ignorance a bit longer: when you say "stock", is that an option for any device or only for certain devices? Google is mostly out of the hardware business these days, right? Can I take my Samsung S6 Edge (or whatever) and install a stock build? Do the features of a specific device, like the Edge display features, migrate into the stock build over time or is it available to developers as a library?

I'm just realizing how little I understand about the Android world. I've always assumed it was Linux for your phone, but now I'm realizing it's not that straightforward...

Check out xda developers

 

[D.T.]

I'm actually going to _wait_ on not install it on my current device (he told himself knowing otherwise...)

So when my 6S shows up, I'll get a major new device, a new OS for it AND the new OS for my Watch all on the same day

 

[_Refurbished_]

I always say wait about a week for things to calm down, see how the OS affects your friends/families devices before you possibly neuter your own.

Very true. I usually look at the last beta before release to see where they're at. Usually it's a long way away. 7.2 and 8.3 were the first OS versions that gave me a good experience in previous releases. I'll wait until 9.2 and reevaluate.

My iPhone 6 runs great on 8.4.1 and I'll skip updating if I have to. I do have a feeling iOS 9 will eventually catch up to 8.4.1 on my 6, since Apple primates it as such.

 

[Marrakas]

However, spell check might not work well.

Oh I missed a space, the world will now end. Ironically it was sent from my iPad

 

[KPOM]

So does Windows 7 work on boot camp with El Capitan OSX?

On an older Mac, yes.

 

[StyxMaker]

That moment when you see a 40 year old lady running < iOS 6. Makes me cringe. I just want to steal their phone for an hour and update and organize it...

What does age, or gender, have to do with it? Would you want to do the same thing if it was a 20 year old man running an old version of iOS?

 

[Tech198]

now we know the secret to Apple's success and fudging the numbers.

- 'Active' iTunes accounts reporting, how long where they active.... it may have been active one minute but they moved over to android the next, yet the report at the time would be 'active' for said user(s) Furthermore, u cannot close an iTunes account..... in Apple favor for getting higher numbers in a certain period.

- Next iOS release is always gonna be bigger, because user can upgrade/but cannot downgrade without JB after 24 hours or so, just because users are using the latest doesn't mean everyone is happy with it.......

Glad to ses more people like iOS8, but based on the numbers will always be Apple's favor, it could swing either way.... I will just say about half the users on iOS8 wish they could go back..

Including Adoption rate on Adroid WITH iOS is not fair either, because it gives APple an un-fair advantage.. since they control both hardware and software... Its not the manufactures fault if cell phone companies don't push updates out ASAP..

I wish reporting companies doing this actually knew what they were reporting

 

[manu chao]

I assume this percentage is based only on compatible devices? Or are devices like the 3GS part of the remaining 13% of devices not on iOS 8?

It's based on the devices that regularly check in to the App Store (getting app updates should count for that). The original iPhone and the 3G which are stuck at iOS 3 and 4, respectively, are unlikely to get many if any app updates (ie, new versions of apps very likely require higher OS versions). The 3Gs might still get the occasional update as it can run iOS 6. Note that only 2% of the phones in this statistic run iOS 6 or earlier, while about 10% of the total number of iPhone are the original iPhone, the 3G and 3Gs, ie, phones that cannot run iOS 7.

If you add iPads and iPod touches to this, this number increases a bit to somewhere between 10 and 15%. In other words, about 10+% of all iOS devices sold is either completely out of use or doesn't participate in the App Store anymore.

 

[bergert]

That tells you how many iPhone 4's stuck on ios 7 there are.

including my iPad (2010) on iOS 5.1 - waiting for the new Pro

 

[Michael Scrip]

Unless you buy a Google Nexus device with stock Android that is guaranteed to be viable for the next 3-4 yearly OS updates. It's the cheap, non upgradeable, and non flagship models sold globally that skew these figures.

Having personally used iPhone/iOS since 2009, the latest my iPhone 6 with 8.4.1, in addition to my Google Nexus 6 running Android Lollipop 5.1.1, I can honestly say that both OS's and hardware build quality have reached a level of parity. For a while iOS dominated IMO, but Lollipop 5.1.1 is a pretty close rival. The Nexus 6 is a solid device where only the camera is bested by the iPhone 6's.

Yes... Nexus doesn't have these problems.

If only Nexus devices made up more than 0.000001% of the Android devices on the planet.

 

[DevNull0]

You can tell Gatekeeper to launch apps even if they're not from a registered developer.

I know that. I knew that before Mavericks launched.

I also know a lot of people who didn't know about it or why they couldn't run their apps anymore after upgrading. *Most* users are not like us.

 

[DevNull0]

Gatekeeper doesn't keep you from installing third party apps. It's a security feature with several options. A) Only install apps from App Store. B) Only install apps from companies with a valid certificate stating their app won't burn down your house and murder your children. C) Install whatever you want.

Any how is the average user who's never heard of macrumors.com and doesn't read the detailed list of new features supposed to know why their apps won't run?

It may have been a non-issue for you (and me), but it was a disaster. I even know one person who bought a late 2011 mbp. Their HD broke shortly after Mavericks came out (still under warranty). They got it back with Mavericks, couldn't get any of their work software to run, and the latest versions of iWork installed. The new Pages is useless to them and they couldn't get the old version back. After about 5 visits to the "genius" bar, their computer sat untouched for about 2 months before they sold it. They've been a happy windows user ever since.

When something "just works", why can't you leave it alone and working. Or is that level of genius beyond Apple's comprehension? Because forced upgrades to buggy and broken software don't "just work". And when you find out the buggy and broken upgrade doesn't work, you can't go back.

 

[DevNull0]

Because they're not integrated together and suck independently.
What Apple adds that others don't is tight integration of their various ecosystem parts.
If everyone was on a different hardware/software combo, this integration of experience would fall appart.

So the integration between them is so tight you can't backup one version of iOS on another version of OSX. And you think that's a good thing?

Wow. Most people call that a defective design. A skilled software designer writes a more open API with enough flexibility built in that as you upgrade one piece of software it can still implement the same API and work with the non-upgraded version of the other. As tech evolves, you upgrade the API, but things don't move so quick you can't keep it flexible enough to work a couple of versions past its release date. I was doing better than Apple when I was in grade 9.

 

[Altis]

.......When something "just works", why can't you leave it alone and working. Or is that level of genius beyond Apple's comprehension? Because forced upgrades to buggy and broken software don't "just work". And when you find out the buggy and broken upgrade doesn't work, you can't go back.

Exactly. Not only can that be really frustrating, but it also renders these "adoption rates" completely meaningless in terms of anything except to tell developers they can stop bothering with older versions if they choose.

It doesn't reflect anything on satisfaction, or if people would go back if they could. It's something seriously off-putting about Apple since they seem to push out updates that have issues and poor performance. The 6 months on 7.0 was quite dismal.

My girlfriend told me it'd be my head if she found her iPhone 5 updated from iOS 6 to 7/8. Her phone had issues and the replacement had iOS 7 on it, though, and when this goes wrong, the restore will put it on 9.

 

[thekeyring]

I know that. I knew that before Mavericks launched.

I also know a lot of people who didn't know about it or why they couldn't run their apps anymore after upgrading. *Most* users are not like us.

Well, a quick Google search would've stopped it. Or even phoning Apple support if they're completely lost.

 

[tongxinshe]

Yuck, that's abysmal.

That's not necessarily a bad thing to Android users, it kind of indicates that apps for Android normally don't get broken by an OS upgrade. It's just a big burden to Google's Android team, but that burden over time could train them well in writing better code.

 

[tongxinshe]

Actually the sync Works flawless. Notes ask you whether you want to upgrade to the newer version. Sync between OS X 10'10 and ios 9 works great for me.

...except that after the initial "upgrade" any changes you make on your Mac won't automatically appear on your iPhone, vice versa.

 

[macduke]

HAH! Who wants to place bets that iOS 9, which has been available for almost four hours, already has more market share than Lolipop? Meanwhile the iPhone 4S and iPad 2 just got an update. The iPad 2 came out 1650 days ago.

 

[Edgar Spayce]

I don't believe these numbers (it's gross marketing lie and I just have to check with dozens of my friends iPhone to state how false it is), but I do believe they have high adoption rate for current or recent OSes, which Android doesn't.

Seriously, every time I want to switch to Android (although this time I will because the iPhone 6S is too much an abuse for very very stupid customer) I remember how friggin stupid their executives must be to not SEE the frigging problem in having ONLY 5.1% user on their last (and best) version?

 

[Michael Scrip]

I remember how friggin stupid their executives must be to not SEE the frigging problem in having ONLY 5.1% user on their last (and best) version?

The latest version of Android has only been out for 6 months.

Quality takes time

 

[nj1266]

On an older Mac, yes.

I have a 2014 Mac book pro. Would that work?