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I don't see the point of upgrading for the sake of upgrading.

My iPhone 4 did everything I needed but is finally becoming a bit slow over the past six months so will probably upgrade this Christmas. And even then I'll likely jump to a 5S.

My Mac laptop is on 10.8.5 because it just works and I have no need to upgrade it. Plus the software I use doesn't work beyond Mavericks so I won't be shifting for a very long time.

I have a 2007 MBP (non-unibody) and it's currently running El Capitán GM without issues. Xcode runs great, so Logic and FCP X.
I never before had a computer last me so many years. I used to give them away after two years.
 
I have couple android devices running 2.3.5, and 4.0.4.
I've never seen any updates..not even once on those devices. heh heh.

the only device that got updated was my nexus 7. that crashed frequently out of the box stock android, without apps, as I only use it for web browsing. I replaced it with an ipad that works much better.
all my iOS devices have seen several update cycles through out the years I own them.
 
Don't. Someone (aka my aunt) did that to my grandma's 4S, and then Safari was suddenly unstable because – I guess – she got unlucky and had something not go right, and she was asking me what the heck was wrong with it. It's way more important for her that stuff work right than it have the latest features.
Oh I've been there. My wife rips my head off when I touch her phone. lol
 
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I have a 2007 MBP (non-unibody) and it's currently running El Capitán GM without issues. Xcode runs great, so Logic and FCP X.
I never before had a computer last me so many years. I used to give them away after two years.
I'm surprised you haven't had some kind of hardware failure on that... maybe it's just the way my mom treats her 2007 MBP.
 
I have couple android devices running 2.3.5, and 4.0.4.
I've never seen any updates..not even once on those devices. heh heh.

the only device that got updated was my nexus 7. that crashed frequently out of the box stock android, without apps, as I only use it for web browsing. I replaced it with an ipad that works much better.
all my iOS devices have seen several update cycles through out the years I own them.

I have a Nexus 7 and I gotta admit, the OS upgrade was very smooth and still performed very well. I can't say the same with my iPad mini. It was fine on the original OS it came with but it is an absolutely unusable dog on iOS 8. iOS 9 improved performance, but not by a lot.
 
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As long as this survey limits time frame, the result would always looks "great" in many ways.

You collect recent 3 years data, rather than longer than 10 years of history data. Could this be a valid option to post such results? Do another assumption, we collect this data from this year to next year, and iOS 9 would always be the hero because all iOS devices released after September 9th would be installed iOS 9.

Just like moving a stripe on a time line.
 
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Why is fast adoption such a good thing though? In the apple Camp everyone seems to fall all over themselves jumping on the latest version, but if there's nothing in the new version you want, why upgrade?

On the Apple side, it seems everything is tied into OS version. You upgrade the OS, you have to use the new crippled iWork apps. You have to buy a new copy of parallels, etc. And now you even have to upgrade your bootcamp to windows 8 if you use the latest OS.

Unless you really follow the developments closely, upgrading is just asking for trouble too. Gatekeeper messed up a lot of people who didn't know it existed but suddenly couldn't install apps they'd been using for years.
I was a fast adoption guy. But now I plan to slow down.
Latest doesn't equal to greatest.
That simple.
 
People survive and thrive for years on Android and iOS without updating to the latest OS. Adoption rates are pretty meaningless as a consumer facing metric. Pretty sure most either don't care or know the relevance. It only gains importance in tech blogs and forums like these.

Cant agree more. Let those companies play around with those "new" features, since they cannot force customers to purchase new products every year.
 
That moment when you see a 40 year old lady running < iOS 6. Makes me cringe. I just want to steal their phone for an hour and update and organize it...
My dad was like that. I used to organise it and update it every time I went to see him. I mean who leaves app updates just sitting there?! Did nothing for my OCD! :D
 
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I don't know about your experiences guys, but iOS 9's battery life is nothing short of amazing to me on my iPad Air 2 and my old iPhone 5!
I was getting used to that my iP5 didn't last more than 8-10 hours with normal use. No matter what I tried (I restored it, had the battery swapped to a brand new one, etc.) it remained utterly pathetic. Battery percentage dropped by 10 percent per hour even if I didn't touch my phone. Now I thought I might give iOS 9 (iOS 9.1 more specifically) a try and everything is back to normal! I still don't have any long term data but the difference is instantly striking. And I haven't even used the new battery saver mode.
Not to mention that iOS 9 is more fluid and responsive on this old piece of hardware than iOS 8 was!!! Terrific work from Apple, I've never imagined that the iP5 that was shipped with iOS 6 will retain so much potential even 3 years after its release.
 
I don't know about your experiences guys, but iOS 9's battery life is nothing short of amazing to me on my iPad Air 2 and my old iPhone 5!
I was getting used to that my iP5 didn't last more than 8-10 hours with normal use. No matter what I tried (I restored it, had the battery swapped to a brand new one, etc.) it remained utterly pathetic. Battery percentage dropped by 10 percent per hour even if I didn't touch my phone. Now I thought I might give iOS 9 (iOS 9.1 more specifically) a try and everything is back to normal! I still don't have any long term data but the difference is instantly striking. And I haven't even used the new battery saver mode.
Not to mention that iOS 9 is more fluid and responsive on this old piece of hardware than iOS 8 was!!! Terrific work from Apple, I've never imagined that the iP5 that was shipped with iOS 6 will retain so much potential even 3 years after its release.
But again, this is a rather specific case, so things may change from time to time, from this user to another user.

Glad you have outstanding experience on your old iPhone 5. :)
 
Why do I never believe these figures?

How do they calculate these numbers may I ask, and what about all the older Apple devices that cannot run this OS they say almost everyone is using?
 
I really don't understand why Google didn't go down Microsoft's route of controlling the updates? Microsoft barely make any Windows computers yet they manage to provide updates just fine. Alternatively if that is too complex I think most Android users wouldn't mind sticking to only having 1 or 2 major releases of Android if their end version was going to get security and bug support for a few years. If you look at a 'normal' OpenSource Linux distro like Debian it manages to support versions for a minimum of 3 years on an incredible range of hardware.
 
That moment when you see a 40 year old lady running < iOS 6. Makes me cringe. I just want to steal their phone for an hour and update and organize it...
And probably make it run abysmally slow in the process, we don't all splash out on new phones every year or two.
 
I don't see the point of upgrading for the sake of upgrading.

My iPhone 4 did everything I needed but is finally becoming a bit slow over the past six months so will probably upgrade this Christmas. And even then I'll likely jump to a 5S.

My Mac laptop is on 10.8.5 because it just works and I have no need to upgrade it. Plus the software I use doesn't work beyond Mavericks so I won't be shifting for a very long time.

I upgraded from snow leopard to Mavericks and really wish I hadn't, there is so much I hate about Mavericks, getting my fingers burnt this way has made me hold of on Yosemite, I just hope El capital becomes the new snow leopard!
 
I agree. Why is it such a good thing that users get access to the latest security updates and features? It should be like Windows XP where we never need to upgrade. /s

You can still use iWork 08 if you want to. BootCamp still supports Windows 7 on older Macs. But since Windows 10 is a free upgrade for Windows 7 and is in the last years of extended support, why should Apple go out of its way to make it work on the newest Macs?

So does Windows 7 work on boot camp with El Capitan OSX?
 
I guess I'm a little confused between the "New Version that only selected devices can get" and the "Core Updates that anyone can get"

Google launched Android 5.0 Lollipop a year ago... but it's installed on only 16% of Android devices.

Then I keep hearing that versions don't matter because anyone can update Google Play Services and get all the new features.

So... why isn't that considered the new version?

If you can install the Marshmallow launcher on a Gingerbread phone... what else can you install?

At what point do the features of Marshmallow simply become Marshmallow?

There's obviously something differentiating these different versions... Google shows developers exactly who's running what:

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Yes, there are differences. The lowest layer API (used for internal Android services), some services, the Kernel and some drivers cannot be upgraded through the play store. If a security issue is in here you're screwed till the next update.

The front API, most user services and the UI can be updated.
 
Yuck, that's abysmal.

More like ill statistics. Somehow iOS 8.0-8.4.1 are counted as one huge pizza slice, and Android 5.0 and 5.1 as two separate ones. 21% for "Android 5 or above" does not impress, but it's not that horrible anymore.
 
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Wow, Android is a joke in comparison. Want the latest OS? Buy a new phone.
Don't confuse Android with Samsung like an ordinary Apple fanboy. It's Samsung that needs to get slapped for not allowing updates to the older phones. Even the old Nexus 4 gets the latest Android updates.
 
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