"Best product pipeline in 25 years" now means nothing but remixes and garbage products (e.g. iMac downgrade, iPod Touch downgrade, buggy iOS, MBP slight upgrade, Yosemite seems ok...nothing special, 1GB RAM in all i-i-devices, iTunes 12 is nothing special, Beats acquisition is meh, etc.). Kind of lackluster really other than the iWatch which could be interesting but it makes me reconsider my desire to stick with Apple. TIme for me to replace my MacPro and HP laptop and might just build a couple Windows boxes...unless the Mac Mini and MBP have real upgraded by 1 Dec. I'm hopeful Apple will blow me away.
Got a tip for us?
Let us know
Become a MacRumors Supporter for $50/year with no ads, ability to filter front page stories, and private forums.
iOS 8 Adoption Stagnates Just Two and a Half Weeks After Launch
- Thread starter MacRumors
- Start date
- Sort by reaction score
Agree agree agree.They either don't know how to update, don't know there even is an update, or don't have free space. That account for about 90% of those who haven't. The others have a 4s and know better.
Please there are many new enhancements https://www.apple.com/ios/whats-new/. Smarter keyboard, iMessage, automatic Siri are but many. Lots of things Android has for in the past but not quite there for 9.
People are just more excited upgrading to iOS 7 from iOS 6 because iOS 7 is visually very different from iOS 6.
Many people can't tell the difference between iOS 7 and iOS 8, unless you show them the "added features".
Many people can't tell the difference between iOS 7 and iOS 8, unless you show them the "added features".
Sync once and done. Or they buy all their music on their phone. Or they stream via services like Spotify. Or they use iTunes Match. Plenty of options.
Major lag with ios 8.x.x and ipad 3. Noticeable lag with iphone 5 and ipad mini retina. Boo Apple, this is unacceptable! I can' afford to replace devices every year so they are usable with your updates.
Apple's app approval process has slowed to a crawl. Developers are waiting weeks for apps to be approved.
Actually ios8's bugs extend way beyond HealthKit and iCloud. I have an iPhone 6 with iOS 8.0.2 and I have issues with the default keyboard not showing up, Safari overwriting the clock/notification row when in portrait mode (with the row still showing), phone dialer taking 10 seconds or more to dial a number, apps where some buttons respond to a press and others don't, to name a few.
Oh ios 8 is definitely buggy. I haven't yet installed it on my wife's iphone 5.
Oh ios 8 is definitely buggy. I haven't yet installed it on my wife's iphone 5.
Rah, Rah, Apple! Now you can take your blindfolds off. I love the cool new feature in Messages where I can't type anything when I turn my phone to landscape mode. That's SO COOL!
----------
But isn't that what most iPhone owners are? Clueless? All the gearheads have Android. If Apple can't release an iOS that "just works" then it's "just sh&t". Isn't that why we pay SO MUCH for the device?
Umm, no blindfolds on here. You must be a noob... a troll noob at that. And I'm not sure where you get the idea that we pay SO MUCH... we pay for good stuff. So, yea, a buggy slow OS release isn't what we expected at all. But, Android isn't even in the running, so it's more the decision between staying on iOS 7 and upgrading to 8 until Apple gets this worked out. I think we'll probably all nickname this release the 'Android' update.
And, so all these people suddenly forgot how to update, because they knew how to update prior to iOS 8.
----------
Funny, me a "troll noob"? Right. Remember the first Macintosh? I had one. Maybe you weren't born yet. In any case, there is no excuse for issues such as landscape mode issues, the fact that I can't enable the camera from the lock screen by sliding up the camera symbol, and many more. I'm not the only one. It's inexcusable.
Yep I haven't been able to get my gf, two sisters, and both of my parents to update their ios devices because their 16gb devices don't have enough space. It took me some work on my 32gb device but I made it work. They don't really care though, and wouldn't care if I didn't bug them about it.
Yes I told them they can connect to iTunes, but that's too much work for something they don't care that much about as casual users.
So out of 6 people closest to me, including myself, a total of 1 upgrade. If they had enough space, all 6 of us would be updated. Might be time to rethink a 16gb device being the base model.
Nice idea, but it can be difficult to implement in practice. E.g. if you need to re-install the OS, stiff crap, you'll have to put on the latest one. Also, many apps in the store don't work on older versions of iOS.
Another example is Facetime. For me, Apple has broken Facetime - short of updating to iOS 7 - as the current iOS 5 version no longer works. If I could get iOS 6, that'd be fine. But of course I can't.
Don't get me wrong: I absolutely agree with you about not updating to new (slower) versions of the OS, but your claim that things will work "for many years" is perhaps questionable...
Cheers, A.
I was expecting iOS 8 to be a continuation of iOS 7 bug fixes but iOS 8 was more bugged compared to iOS 7 at launch.
First I believed many people on this forum saying that iOS 8 lag is simply my imagination. But when you compare the two iOSes 7.1.2 and 8.0.2 side by side, it's extremely clear that the lag is there to see. It makes me believe that all those apologists are on Apple payroll. They just trying to spread FUD.
Lag is there, there and frikkin' there.
First I believed many people on this forum saying that iOS 8 lag is simply my imagination. But when you compare the two iOSes 7.1.2 and 8.0.2 side by side, it's extremely clear that the lag is there to see. It makes me believe that all those apologists are on Apple payroll. They just trying to spread FUD.
Lag is there, there and frikkin' there.
The slow adoption rate is due to a single reason...
The install size "over the air" for iOS 8 is much larger than iOS 7 and many folks simply find themselves without room for the download and are unwilling to delete files such as video and photos to make room for it. There are ways around this including installing via iTunes but most folks aren't aware of them.
The install size "over the air" for iOS 8 is much larger than iOS 7 and many folks simply find themselves without room for the download and are unwilling to delete files such as video and photos to make room for it. There are ways around this including installing via iTunes but most folks aren't aware of them.
It is the lack of a path back to iOS 7. Apple's controlling personality use to be ok, but with their lack of quality lately.
Apple has little to no choice about the timing to the release of their OS. It has to do with release of the new iPhone. Guess what, we know now, within a few weeks when iOS 9 will be released. It will be sometime in September 2015. Perhaps it will slip to first week in October.
They can be embarrassed about the initial release. But sometimes incredibly complicated projects don't get done perfectly. The main issue is that it is a multi-billion dollar issue if the OS isn't ready for the new iPhones. So that has to be first priority.
Your 4S experience will improve a bit. They can focus on you guys now.
"Ugh, I forgot one of my papers at home... fortunately I can still use this PC to open the Pages app on iclou...ಠ_ಠ"
This alone seems like reason enough for Apple to make the minimum storage 32gb for models moving forward. Can't believe the hit margin to make guns would be that huge, and you'd eliminate the issue with space for updates.
Yea, Tim just can't quite pull off the RDF like Job, huh? That said, I think Apple does have a strong product pipeline, just like they have for many years now. The iPhone 6 hardware is impressive as ever, and there is nothing wrong with any of their other products. They don't always need some new big thing, as they are doing just fine. (re: 1GB RAM... look for the speed comparison article that was around the other day showing how the iPhone 6 blew away the others with 2 GB RAM).
However, Apple has typically had issues with software releases, so while a pain, this isn't all that new. Usually it was more with buggy new features or new apps that didn't include core features, etc. The level of problems here is certainly a troubling development, though, I admit. It just isn't all THAT unexpected given Apple's history... just magnified.
re: Windows - Oh my, you'd better rethink that a bit first. I think you'll come running back to Apple. I have Windows 8 on my iMac in Bootcamp and Parallels for testing and a bit of gaming, and it's an incredible pain in many ways. Every time I use it, I think... how can people actually work in this every day? Way better than it used to be, but still pretty nasty IMO. (I've been using Windows since somewhere around 3.x.)
re: iWatch - IMO, nothing much interesting there. I'm curious, what use would you have for one? I admit it's very impressive hardware and UI advancement, but where is the market for such a thing? I think it's going to be successful WITHIN a fairly small market segment it is targeting.
Buggy
Me and many family members upgraded to the latest release and have nothing but problems. We even performed factory resets but it didn't help.
When playing music album art sometimes doesn't display, doesn't update to the new album artwork, or shows the wrong album, connecting to the Apple TV takes forever and sometimes doesn't appear on the remote and we have to reboot the phone or Apple TV, switching to answer another incoming call has failed a few times, battery drains a lot faster, Facetime randomly won't connect, the voice feature in the messages app is slow to send even with speed tests of 80/30Mbps on LTE, Safari crashes, and the worst part is the Mail app. Me and my coworkers have noticed it can be several hours before the phone automatically checks for new mail from our Exchange server. Doesn't happen frequently but is a big problem since that's our main source of communication to our clients. Luckily it was caught before our clients complained of a slow response time. Now we have to manually go into the Mail app and force it to check every 15 minutes or so just to be safe.
There are a bunch more problems we've noticed but there is just no point listing them. Apple either didn't test or they think it's okay to release trash like this to people
Me and many family members upgraded to the latest release and have nothing but problems. We even performed factory resets but it didn't help.
When playing music album art sometimes doesn't display, doesn't update to the new album artwork, or shows the wrong album, connecting to the Apple TV takes forever and sometimes doesn't appear on the remote and we have to reboot the phone or Apple TV, switching to answer another incoming call has failed a few times, battery drains a lot faster, Facetime randomly won't connect, the voice feature in the messages app is slow to send even with speed tests of 80/30Mbps on LTE, Safari crashes, and the worst part is the Mail app. Me and my coworkers have noticed it can be several hours before the phone automatically checks for new mail from our Exchange server. Doesn't happen frequently but is a big problem since that's our main source of communication to our clients. Luckily it was caught before our clients complained of a slow response time. Now we have to manually go into the Mail app and force it to check every 15 minutes or so just to be safe.
There are a bunch more problems we've noticed but there is just no point listing them. Apple either didn't test or they think it's okay to release trash like this to people
Happy ios 8 user
updated using iTunes. 2 iPhone 5s, 1 iPhone 4s, 1 ipad 3 and 1 iPad mini. The secret for success is using iTunes. OTA is just a disaster waiting to happen. If I face any problem I just reset all settings and reset network settings. All good after that.
updated using iTunes. 2 iPhone 5s, 1 iPhone 4s, 1 ipad 3 and 1 iPad mini. The secret for success is using iTunes. OTA is just a disaster waiting to happen. If I face any problem I just reset all settings and reset network settings. All good after that.