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Multi-Window & Mouse Control

This will be SO helpful! Browsing on one half, email on the other - or a document being created using content from the web. If Apple also adds mouse control, I may fall back in love with the iPad :D I am guessing a new model with more memory will be required, but I'm crossing my fingers that won't be the case :D
 
And the point of this is?

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Also I don't think current multi tasking works the way it should. When i asked at the store why apps keep refreshing and losing work I was told its a feature of ios 7. Get current multitasking to work would be great.
 
The general opinion here was that Apple would not make a smaller iPad and there were pages of reasons why it was a bad idea. Lots of pages why. Then when they did, it became the most popular iPad. It wasn't Retina, and most here stated that Retina wasn't needed and it was fine. Next, Retina was introduced to the mini, and no one could live without it.

To me the general consensus here for the past few years was that the iPhone was the perfect size and those 5" Android phones were ridiculous. Now that Apple is obviously going to make a bigger iPhone, the general opinion has changed that bigger will be better. Larger phones have been viable from other manufacturers for a few years now, and with better battery life than the iPhone currently has. Apple is just late to the game with the bigger screens, no ifs and or buts about it. :)

When NFC was rumored for the iPhone 5, this forum was largely in favor of it and anticipating it. When it didn't happen and I think it was Samsung? that included it, NFC became a gimmick and an outdated technology. Now that the iPhone 6 is rumored to have it, it suddenly finds favor here.

Higher quality audio has been available for a long time now. Apple just chose not to sell it on iTunes. But prior discussions here lead to the generalization that nobody could tell the difference for any quality over 256kbs and that audiophiles were crazy and couldn't tell the difference for anything above CD quality sound. I'm guessing that now HD audio will be a great idea.

Again, I am not singling out any individuals about this, just the overall forum opinion. IMO, it has swung from one end to the other on each of the items I have brought up. This isn't criticism, it's my observation. :)

I don't know about this whole idea of "general consensus". It's not really something one finds on the internet :p

Anyways, my point above was that the variables change over time, so people's opinions change over time. Sure, some people were just flat out against some form factors, but a lot were against them given the constraints of the time. I tried putting large Android phones in my pocket years ago, and tried it again recently. The thickness affects the possible width.

For the iPad mini, I don't think that too many people anticipated that it would be 8" instead of 7", have smaller bezels, and be the same resolution, so that the screen size ended up not being problematically smaller, while still giving a more portable iPad at a cheaper cost. Basically, Apple engineered away the issues that people perceived it could have.

iPad mini retina pro/cons were somewhat complex. After seeing the difference between the iPhone 4 and the previous 3GS, I wouldn't want a non-retina device when reading. But I'd also value having something less expensive that lasts longer on a charge. Again, it all came down to Apple engineering it so well, to give the pros and address the perceived cons.

I'm against NFC so I don't really care or notice what other people think of it.

With the high def audio, it's true that a higher bit rate is pointless, by itself. But sampling with 24 bit at 96 KHz, instead of 16 bit at 44/48 Khz, can make a difference, and thus justify the higher bit rate. Even then there are trade-offs of more disk space and more bandwidth and download time. As people get larger hard drives and broadband or 4G data, the down sides become less relevant.

Basically, I think Apple releases features when the complete picture is ready, and competitors release them when it's initially technically feasible, so sounds good on a spec sheet. To each their own. I know what sounds more useful to me.
 
Ugh. Do we really need this? It's the kind of feature where the idea seems better than the reality. The vast majority of users would never bother with it.

The iPad needs multi-user support much more desperately.

It was never meant for this. The iPad was never meant to replace a laptop and multiuser on it would be a mistake. Thise 16 GB will fill up in no time.
 
As you pointed out, not the same patent.

Look back at the top of post #233 for the patent that doesn't include the bezel:

Apple awarded design patent for actual rounded rectangle - Ars Technica

The D'889 patent from the California case is the one that started the "Apple patented the rounded rectangle" crap. Obviously, from the jury's decision, they didn't patent a rounded rectangle.

The D'286 patent that you are now referencing does include the bezel (not dashed in the figure) in a specific proportion and a glossy front face. So, once again, it is not simply a rounded rectangle.
http://www.google.com/patents/USD670286
 
Can I have a 16:10 screen please Apple.

Wanted it since day one.

I know most will strongly disagree

I'd just like the "EXTRA" space on my screen 16:10 would give.

And yes, before everyone says widescreen is smaller, no it's not. I mean ADD onto the current screen to bring it to 16:10
As an owner of a 4:3 iPad 4 and a 16:9 Surface 2, I can say that one AR is more suitable for touch/tablet operation and one is more suitable for netbook operation.

16:9 (or 16:10) AR is too narrow in portrait mode to make typing feasible. The added height in portrait adds to the mechanical leverage of the device in the hand causing fatigue more quickly.

16:9 (or 16:10) in landscape is too wide causing the onscreen keyboard to take up 3/4 of the screen.

When I want to operate in "tablet mode" I use my iPad. But because of the 4:3 AR, keyboards the same size as the iPad are a little on the small size. But with the 16:9 of the Surface 2, the keyboard cover's keyboard is exactly the same size as the keyboard on my 15.4" Macbook Pro.

It's one or the other. There isn't an aspect ratio that is optimal for both.
 
Back on topic, the iPad screen resolution is such that when horizontal, it can fit 3x iPhone 4" apps side by side and 4x iPhone 3.5" apps in a grid. It would be nice for Universal apps to have some means of running as 1/2, 1/3 or 1/4 sized by making use of their iPhone assets. Either by using iPad screens that can use AutoLayout to size full and half, or by changing to using the iPhone screens themselves, with some kind of segue code bridging between the two.
 
Ample evidence of the overall change or swing of opinion, not for specific users. :)

So you're trying to point out that at some point some people had an opinion and at another point other people had a different opinion. Thanks for pointing that out :) .
 
I hope this is true. This is easily Windows 8's best feature.
This would go hand-in-hand with a framework to allow apps to work collaboratively.

I can't agree with the title of this story claiming it's "likely" though. Random unnamed sources talking about Apple's future plans does not equal "likely".
 
Yes, because multitasking hasn't been done right yet on any platform... :rolleyes:

Did I say that multitasking hasn't been done well on any platform? Or are you just trying out your troll-fu?

Most true multitasking solutions I have seen have not been done well.

Surface allows you to put up a thin bar as a second screen, minimizing what you're able to do with it.

Surface Pro adds the option of having multiple windows up on the non-tablet optimized desktop, but everything ends up being too small to work effectively. All the tablets running Windows 8.1 have this problem.

Samsung's music player option allows you to keep the music player on top while working apps in the background. This isn't better than Apple's solution in iOS 7 where you can swipe up to control your music player. Apple's advantage is that you don't have a screen overlaying what you're trying to do.

I do like Samsung's S-Note application. Being able to bring up a note pad so I can take some notes without having to switch back and forth between apps would be nice.

A failing on the part of both Samsung and Surface is that many of their screen elements are so small you need a stylus to navigate the OS. That has always been something I've liked on the iPad is that everything is built to be controlled with finger gestures. If I have to hold my tablet with one hand and manipulate it with a stylus, I would rather just jump on the desktop computer.

Samsung's 12.2" tablet allows four windows to be open at the same time, so you can monitor email or keep an eye on your calendar. In both cases I prefer Apple's notification system. Any email, text, or calendar entry can pop up a reminder when I want, or I can swipe down to open the notification center and see my calendar for the day plus any notifications I want. I can't imagine having four screen open at one time, even on a 12 inch tablet, would be easy to deal with. I will sometimes have that many windows open on my 27" iMac. If the elements and text were any smaller, it would be more trouble than it's worth to have that many windows open.

This is just my read on things. I haven't used Samsung (or other android) tablets, so I'm just going on what I can see online. I do use a Surface Pro, so I think my opinion there is valid.
 
I've never used a Surface. What's wrong with the implementation?

When you're in Tablet mode, you can bring up a thin side-bar for viewing other content, like a movie. It's pretty small, so there's a big limitation in productivity.

If you have the Surface Pro, you can go to desktop mode and use it just like your home desktop. Only, on a 10" screen, and using desktop controls, it's very difficult to read text and almost impossible to use the controls correctly, even with the stylus.
 
hahahaha this is just funny

98% macrumors users Before this rumor came out:
iPad doesnt need multi-tasking like Samsung and windows tablets have!!

100% macrumors users after this rumor came out:
Yes! ipad needed this so badly! i cant wait for this!


/truth
 
Bit weird, why go on about 16:9 when the poster said 16:10. They are not the same.



Perhaps an optimal AR between 16:12 and 16:9 might be 16:10???


I think they might go 5:3 / 15:9 at 2560 x 1536.

That is, make the iPad screen 512 pixels wider.
That's about 1.9" on the iPad Air and almost 1.6" on the Mini at current densities.
 
Exactly my point, I'm not one. Just throwing the random idea out there. :p Way to compromise data? I don't work at Apple, so calm your britches.

Obviously, if you have a multi-user iPad, don't you think people would have already settled on separate passwords if they plan to share an iPad? :confused: Derp.

Well that certainly wouldn't work in a school or enterprise environment. And no I wouldn't disclose my password to toher family members or they would just go on my account and not their own! Thus making separate user accounts pointess!
 
hahahaha this is just funny

98% macrumors users Before this rumor came out:
iPad doesnt need multi-tasking like Samsung and windows tablets have!!

100% macrumors users after this rumor came out:
Yes! ipad needed this so badly! i cant wait for this!


/truth

Even funnier is that you can't tell the difference between "truth" and something you made up. :D
 
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