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As an owner of a 4:3 iPad 4 and a 16:9 Surface 2, I can say that one AR is more suitable for touch/tablet operation and one is more suitable for netbook operation.

16:9 (or 16:10) AR is too narrow in portrait mode to make typing feasible. The added height in portrait adds to the mechanical leverage of the device in the hand causing fatigue more quickly.

16:9 (or 16:10) in landscape is too wide causing the onscreen keyboard to take up 3/4 of the screen.

When I want to operate in "tablet mode" I use my iPad. But because of the 4:3 AR, keyboards the same size as the iPad are a little on the small size. But with the 16:9 of the Surface 2, the keyboard cover's keyboard is exactly the same size as the keyboard on my 15.4" Macbook Pro.

It's one or the other. There isn't an aspect ratio that is optimal for both.

Just to note:

Survey after survey has shown that most people use tablets in landscape mode.
One could therefore feel justified in biasing the experience to be a little better in that more popular viewing and operating method.

It's understandable really. Humans have eyes side by side, not one above the other, and why we have has TV and monitor screens for years that are wider as it's more natural and obviously can get more on screen.

We were limited to 4:3 type ratios for years simply due to technical reasons with the cathode ray tube. As seen as we got rid of that limitation due to new technology we were able to more easily go wider to a move visually comfortable screen aspect ratio.

Re the UI and say 16:10

To be honest, I think a lot of it is that you NEED to make the UI and things on screen to be designed for that. Make MORE of it, don't just stretch things.

EG: a simple example of an easy benefit, say you took an iPad now in landscape with the keyboard A-Z only. Add a little extra to the screen width to make it 16:10 and you could for example have a numeric keypad on the right whilst keeping the a-z keys the same size as now.

A simple, but easy to do bonus.

Of course, all apps and web browsers can be made to benefit from the space.
Naturally as this thread has been about. It's much more practical to have say a 75% 25% split screen on 16:10 than say 4:3
 
When you're in Tablet mode, you can bring up a thin side-bar for viewing other content, like a movie. It's pretty small, so there's a big limitation in productivity.
That is old information. It was true under Windows 8, but with 8.1 Microsoft introduced the ability to have a range of split screens sizes. It is quite handy with 8.1... aided by the 16:9 aspect ratio of the screen. I don't think it will be as beneficial on the iPad.
 
Someone will soon talk about a lack of RAM...... :?

Maybe 2014 A8 iPads will have 2GB RAM,
and by maybe I mean almost definitely

Old news :p

Have this already

Please someone tell me what is the name of this tweak

Lets hope Apple is taking notes with these concepts.

They probably are.



So I don't know why people complain about the need for more RAM to do apps side by side so much.... iPads with 1GB should be able to do this fine.

PCs have been running multiple apps side by side with 128MB RAM, 64MB Ram, 32MB RAM....
 
hahahaha this is just funny

98% macrumors users Before this rumor came out:
iPad doesnt need multi-tasking like Samsung and windows tablets have!!

100% macrumors users after this rumor came out:
Yes! ipad needed this so badly! i cant wait for this!


/truth

Not really. Before this rumor there were a lot of MR users who would like the iPad to have split screen multitasking and a bunch that didn't. It's still the same.

It's weird how often this kind of post is made, as if "mac rumors" was a uniform group all with the same ideas that move in sync with whatever Apple is currently doing -- except for the poster, of course. There are probably some of those people but most of us like Apple products for what they get right and live with what they don't... and are happy when it seems like Apple may make a good improvement.
 
Probably i am the only one in the world who doesn't care. I just want to use 1 app at time on my iPad, i have my Mac for these kind of things.
 
Would be extremely useful for simple tasks. I study Spanish so I'd like to have the dictionary app open along side the newspaper/pdf/webpage I am viewing so I don't have to keep swapping apps. Also if I am taking notes from a PDF I currently can't use my ipad (unless I write on a notepad) because I have to swap between apps constantly - uni often photocopies books as if they were pictures so words are not always recognised and therefore can't be manually highlighted. For specific things, multitasking would be great and would give me a very good reason to upgrade my ipad 2.
 
Probably i am the only one in the world who doesn't care. I just want to use 1 app at time on my iPad, i have my Mac for these kind of things.

Well not everyone has a mac running by their side all the time they are on their iPad.

Even for me simple things are a pain.

Chatting on say Yahoo, hang on I'll find the link for you....

Yahoo off screen, back to safari, copy the link, safari off screen, hopefully Yahoo still open, past the link.

Oh thanks for the link back, let me copy that, yahoo off screen, back to safari, look at the link, back to yahoo, yes it was great.

I'll show you a youtube video, close yahoo, open up youtube app, find the link, close youtube app, back to yahoo paste the link, oh ok, well you watch it and comment when it's finished as I can't see video and talk at the same time, so speak again in 5 mins after the video has finished.

sigh :(
 
There are probably some of those people but most of us like Apple products for what they get right and live with what they don't... and are happy when it seems like Apple may make a good improvement.

Thank you. I can't understand why some people think it has to be black or white. There are plenty of things that are not a "must have", and I wouldn't want to use a (personally rated) crappy tablet just for this feature. However the inclusion of it wouldn't be unwelcome if it's done well.

We are allowed to rank some features above others.
 
When the Apple fans can no longer pooh-pooh the competition, and their advances, they always revert to the "ah, but Apple will do it better."

Right on cue!

I'm not slating for Samsung for implementing the feature; in fact I'm glad they've added it to their tablets so people can multitask...

What I am slating is the fact it wasn't as smooth and seamless as the rest of the Pro Tablet!
 
I don't know about this whole idea of "general consensus". It's not really something one finds on the internet :p

Basically, I think Apple releases features when the complete picture is ready, and competitors release them when it's initially technically feasible, so sounds good on a spec sheet. To each their own. I know what sounds more useful to me.

Well you make valid points but what he's saying and what you're arguing are two different things.

He is talking about the apparent wishy washy flippy floppiness of the very vocal blind faith followers that up their post counts by posting derogatory one-liners aimed at other tech companies, like:
Samesung phablets sukz dude, Apple will never copy that trash, lulz!
Followed by this a few months later (not necessarily the same poster):
Yea, Apple's going to show Shamesung how to do phablets korrekt manz, PWNED, lulz!

He's got a fair point, even though I still haven't seen that elusive caught in the act full on flip flop by the same poster, though I've already stated I would love to see it. #

On the other hand, you're talking about Apple's apparent astute ability to release fully mature sets of features that actually address solutions to existing problems, and their ability to implement new technologies in a more seamless, user-friendly, and most importantly, useful, way. I think you both agree on this point, I agree with you both.
 
If it'll be indeed (artificially) restricted to newer models (to force people to upgrade, as is so frequently done by Apple), I have some good news: the recently-released JB windowing environment "OS Experience" runs just great on "old" hardware too. I've used it a lot on my iPad3 and found it excellent.

See https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/1724497/ for more info.

I am jailbroken, so I might get that. Is there much lag (above what is already there)?
 
My Galaxy S5 has that feature. I've never used it. I played with it once and then disabled it.

Agreed, it was very clunky on my Note 3 and they did limit what kind of apps we can run parallel. I'd imagine video and music apps would be ok but when we get to GUI intensive games, they'd dedicate the screen. Windows seems to apply this feature in a much better way; again highlighting a gripe of mine regarding Samsung cramming in features without regard to user experience.
 
I can hear Microsoft Surface customers laughing all the way to heaven :p

This is not fair.... And when Apple "does" add feature for split screen, its implemented very poorly ?

Why must you go via the task switcher and then add want you want to split ?

Too much effort.. how about an easy flick in an app to have split screen ?

I could say really great things Apple does for iOS, but this implementation is not one of them.
 
Only because you think it is a "must have" feature. Everybody has a pet feature that they think will cause people to line up around the block to buy. :)

I'll offer you a response that many others receive: "Looks like what you need is a laptop."

That is the standard response to the following:
- I need a physical keyboard for my iPad
- I need a mouse for my iPad
- I need splitscreen on my iPad
- I need support for SD cards on my iPad
- I need enough RAM to have 8 Safari tabs open without reloading

Why does multi-user profile deserve a different answer? :confused:

Look through just this thread, and tell me if you don't see demand for this. Ask any parent you know with an iPad if they'd like switchable profiles for their stuff vs. their kids stuff.

The multi-tasking thing would be great, but the user account feature could be very simply implemented:

You know how you type in a 4-digit passcode now? Depending on which of multiple passcodes you enter, you log in to that account. 1122 could be the password getting you in to user A's account, while 3344 could be the password letting you in to user B's account.
Or they could just use Touch ID to determine which user to switch to... :cool:
 
This is one of those "PC-free" issues... where everything is years ahead, and Apple finally gets it.


Better late, than never. :rolleyes:
 
I can hear Microsoft Surface customers laughing all the way to heaven :p

This is not fair.... And when Apple "does" add feature for split screen, its implemented very poorly ?

Why must you go via the task switcher and then add want you want to split ?

Too much effort.. how about an easy flick in an app to have split screen ?

I could say really great things Apple does for iOS, but this implementation is not one of them.

The concept video in the OP has nothing to do with Apple. :confused:
 
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