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The question is: If you're on 7.0.6, why aren't you jailbroken? :D

I smell sarcasm so I'll just ask, why would one even be on 7.0.6 ?

Simple. (And no sarcasm was intended)
The 7.1 made the perfectly fine rectangle end call button to a tiny un-user-friendly circle.
Not to mention the fact that they changed the keyboard' shift and caps key.
Fire Jonathan Ive for the UI already!!
 
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Simple. (And no sarcasm was intended)
The 7.1 made the perfectly fine rectangle end call button to a tiny un-user-friendly circle.
Not to mention the fact that they changed the keyboard's color.
Fire Jonathan Ive for the software already!!
I don't know, going from a fairly big button that takes up most of the width of the screen to a more regular one that would require a more specific action can be seen as a user experience improvement since it make it somewhat harder to hang up on someone accidentally as much more of the screen can be used for that in the older design.
 
I don't know, going from a fairly big button that takes up most of the width of the screen to a more regular one that would require a more specific action can be seen as a user experience improvement since it make it somewhat harder to hang up on someone accidentally as much more of the screen can be used for that in the older design.

To each and their own.
I find it much harder to hang up then it needs to be. If I am using the handset, the screen will be dimmed out when I am on the call and not going to hang up. So the "accident" is a non-incident.
If I am on the bluetooth headset, I can easily use the headset to hang up. So, once again, the "accident" is a non-incident.
I am very sick and tired of the UI's obsessive with circle design ever since 7 came out.
 
Simple. (And no sarcasm was intended)
The 7.1 made the perfectly fine rectangle end call button to a tiny un-user-friendly circle.
Not to mention the fact that they changed the keyboard' shift and caps key.
Fire Jonathan Ive for the UI already!!

Oh yeah, I forgot about that, but I remember complaining about the stupid inverted caps lock key the past. Good point.
 
Funny have 2 people (my sister and mother) on Ipad 2 with 8.1.1 and its perfectly usable. You must have a broken down "special" product...


I'll be more than happy to come over to your place and show you just how terrible the performance is on my iPad 3. Safari is almost entirely worthless, and typing would be hilariously slow if it weren't so terribly infuriating.

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As you're using an A5X chip - one above from the oldest chip iOS 8 supports - try:

Settings > General > Accessibility > Reduce Motion
Settings > General > Accessibility > Increase Contrast > Reduce Transparency

You could also try backing up the iPad to iTunes, defaulting it to factory settings and then restoring it from the iTunes backup.

Failing everything else, take it to an Apple Store and talk to them.

I've turned off all the whizbang UI features that 8 comes with and it's still crap. Switching between apps by double tapping is about a five second wait. I've restored it once by just doing it in iTunes and I've done the secure wipe twice. All three times I set it up as a new device and not restored from any backup and it still runs like garbage through and through. That change in performance happened with iOS 8, iOS 7 ran perfectly fine. I had none of those issues. iOS 8 is simply a terrible piece of software and smacks of Apple spending nowhere near enough time to properly optimize it for older devices. The real slap in the face to all their customers is their idiotic and steadfast refusal to allow people to downgrade. They are purposefully forcing their customers to have a terrible experience. My $400+ iPad is now the slowest device I've ever used at doing the tasks it was designed to do. Surfing the web is pointless, reading books it an exercise at tapping and retapping after the UI doesn't respond for a few seconds and only does so after you've tapped something unintentionally. Reading magazines in Newsstand is a complete waste of time because the pages don't become not blurry for sometimes upwards of 30 seconds. iOS 7 didn't do any of that and Apple stupidly refuses to allow me to go back to it and have a fully functional device. This will be my first and last iPad because I simply will not buy a $400+ device and have it unusable after a couple of updates with no way to go back should I not like the experience.
 
To each and their own.
I find it much harder to hang up then it needs to be. If I am using the handset, the screen will be dimmed out when I am on the call and not going to hang up. So the "accident" is a non-incident.
If I am on the bluetooth headset, I can easily use the headset to hang up. So, once again, the "accident" is a non-incident.
I am very sick and tired of the UI's obsessive with circle design ever since 7 came out.
Well, in the case of a headset it's a non-issue either way as we won't be using it, so it's not really better or worse either way. As for using it by the ear or via speakerphone, if you were to move away to look up something and moved your finger a bit around the edges of the screen there's the potential to hangup with a large wide button vs. a smaller centered one that would need a more deliberate action. As far as what it looks like and how aesthetically pleasing that's certainly something in the eye of the beholder and can't really satisfy everyone of course, but as far as usability/experience, there might just be something to it being better somewhat smaller than somewhat larger when a wide range of users and everything else is considered. That said, it is what it is (for whatever reason).

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Oh yeah, I forgot about that, but I remember complaining about the stupid inverted caps lock key the past. Good point.
Realistically it's only inverted in comparison to what it was before, otherwise, taken on its own, it's just fine and works the same.
 
please elaborate, i'd love to get an insight in your wisdom. especially because my nexus 5 is running perfectly fine with lollipop, without any bugs. please tell me what i'm missing?!

Right.. So, you anecdote trumps ALL reviews. Even on Android sites people are bitching.
 
Right.. So, you anecdote trumps ALL reviews. Even on Android sites people are bitching.

Really? So, what can we say about iOS when in Apple sites people are bitching?

It is funny that you call other people asking your claims "anecdote" when you have post such garbage without any proof.
 
Clearly as apple "sell" more "new" devices which only come with iOS8 the number or % will go up. This doesn't show greater adoption or a move of existing iOS7 users to the newer software....
 
Lollipop is a nightmare for many users, and Google stopped distribution for a while (received only yesterday on my Nexus 7).

bunch of bs
android updates roll out in waves for different locales and devices around the world. as someone with a nexus 5, even i got the update a month later because i was in asia when lollipop was rolling out.

Right.. So, you anecdote trumps ALL reviews. Even on Android sites people are bitching.

all reviews? hardly any reviews so far are negative.
 
No. I exactly can't understand all this hate, Yosemite and iOS 8 are the best looking operating systems out there.

They've got bugs, but which doesn't?
Or, people say there's bugs. Haven't met those yet.

If people don't like it they can to use windows 8.1 lol lol lol and good luck with that one.
 
bunch of bs
android updates roll out in waves for different locales and devices around the world. as someone with a nexus 5, even i got the update a month later because i was in asia when lollipop was rolling out.



all reviews? hardly any reviews so far are negative.

That's just plain false.
Google took some weeks to release lollipop because it is full of bugs, and you know perfectly well
 
Any source about your claim that Google stopped distribution?

Google updates ALWAYS takes weeks

Not at all. On my Nexus devices I received the updates within DAYS from release.
Until lollipop came out and users started to complain about a nightmare of bugs
 
I thought iPods are for music. But still gotta agree, they should stop moving forward and developing stuff for new tech!

..Just like with this Acer's 128MB MP3 player. 4 years older than your iPod and no Spotify or .WAV support! Or even OS update! Damn Acer!

But Apple should keep the older apps in the store and allow you to get older versions. I spent $Hundreds on apps and games that I can no longer use because they updated when I had to redownload my apps (that were updated to iOS 8 only) after a hard drive crash.
Just like people should be able to downgrade their OS when it turns out the new OS is a buggy POC.

The OS I see why when they want to stop jailbreakers but non jailbreakers don't deserve that.
 
Not at all. On my Nexus devices I received the updates within DAYS from release.
Until lollipop came out and users started to complain about a nightmare of bugs

again, a lot of BS.

where did users complain about a "nightmare of bugs"? please provide links.
 
Am I the only one who likes iOS 8?

I'll let you know later :D

I don't have any devices upgraded to iOS8 yet. So i was just looking at my iPod touch 5 while it was charging up in the kitchen tonight and realized it would be the perfect guinea pig for the upgrade. I'll just do a clean install sometime tomorrow and see how I like it.
 
Well, in the case of a headset it's a non-issue either way as we won't be using it, so it's not really better or worse either way. As for using it by the ear or via speakerphone, if you were to move away to look up something and moved your finger a bit around the edges of the screen there's the potential to hangup with a large wide button vs. a smaller centered one that would need a more deliberate action. As far as what it looks like and how aesthetically pleasing that's certainly something in the eye of the beholder and can't really satisfy everyone of course, but as far as usability/experience, there might just be something to it being better somewhat smaller than somewhat larger when a wide range of users and everything else is considered. That said, it is what it is (for whatever reason).

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Realistically it's only inverted in comparison to what it was before, otherwise, taken on its own, it's just fine and works the same.
Not trying to be offensive...
The more I read the reply, the more I wondered if it is just we are vastly different in how we use the phone, or I have to question whether you actually use the phone.
If I were to move away to look up something, there is absolutely no chance I would end the call. Because first thing I do is to hit the home button to exit out/hide the phone app.
Ultimately, it is just harder to use with the tiny button...
 
Not trying to be offensive...
The more I read the reply, the more I wondered if it is just we are vastly different in how we use the phone, or I have to question whether you actually use the phone.
If I were to move away to look up something, there is absolutely no chance I would end the call. Because first thing I do is to hit the home button to exit out/hide the phone app.
Ultimately, it is just harder to use with the tiny button...
Sure, people use the phones differently. But you move away to use something, there are various options on the screen within the call that you might need/want to use, even actual numbers to enter some account number or PIN or something else like that. I can see that it might be harder to use the smaller button simply because one needs to be more precise/deliberate about the action of using it, but what I'm saying is that that very thing is what can be seen as better usability design where a single-use-action button (that carries more power in it as far as starting/ending something) is something that would need more of a precise/deliberate action. Again, that might not be for everyone, and some might certainly want things just to be even over-simplified for them because it works for them, but in the overall usability for all types of users it can have more positives than negatives as far as what kind of thinking might have gone into it.
 
Just out of curiosity, why post on apple forum if you really don't like apple products? I mean I get it, I know this isn't an apple fan club and everyone and anyone can post their viewpoints but it just boggles my mind when people post here who really don't like the products and "vow to never use them again". It's just like being negative for the sake of being negative. Kinda seems like a waste of time but hey bigger things have shocked me.

Apple products are fine, apple as a CORPORATION is a problem. I like my macbook and imac and and stuff but apple as a COMPANY are going completely downhill.

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Give me a break! That's all I'll say. Unlike what. XP that was broken until it got to service pack 2, or Vista that was broken for 2-3 years, or 7 which had to go a year to be stable. 95 or 98 never really got stable. Lets forget about ME... Windows 8 has had thousands of bugs fixed. I still get an unresponsive network every 3-4 days and the fix is nowhere in sight (I'm using Ethernet too, not some new tech). (Seems to be some memory leak in the TCP stack, really weird bug)

As for Androids, I know there are hundreds of bugs; version 5 right now is bugged up solid, 50 times worse than 8 at launch.

Those are the facts. IOS compared to all those other software is relatively bug free and generally most important to moderate bugs are resolved within 3 months.
I installed the newest android version on my nexus 5 and I've only experienced a couple small bugs. Nothing major. ios 8 has had like 4 or 5 updates and they still can't make a good os.
 
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