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Please enlighten me on how to go to "space usage and delete the update".
Can this be accomplished on a 7.0.6 phone with no jailbreak?

I smell sarcasm so I'll just ask, why would one even be on 7.0.6 ?
 
iOS7 was my last straw with installing iOS upgrades immediately. At least, until they really start to get serious about their software team, and spend less time on their 'bling' team with Beats, and Fancy Gold watches. I had so many problems with early versions of iOS7 randomly rebooting on my iPhone 4S, iPhone 5S, iPad 3 and iPad Air.

Demoing it to Android users was great when it would lock up in Safari and reboot (flash Apple logo/reboot).

Seeing the iOS8 miseries have made us stick with 7 here in this house until we buy new Apple devices that come with 8 on it. So far 7 seems to work pretty well, and we haven't been in a rush to use any new features in 8.

I'm sure we'll upgrade soon - but they are starting to really slip quality wise in their software department. The HW seems solid as ever, but SW seems to be a problem. Especially odd considering how few variants of HW they support compared to Google or Microsoft.

For Android users a "lockup" is how the phone usually works so maybe they didn't see any different... Most Android users don't even bother upgrading their phone.... If they can even get the upgrade. More than half Android phones are Botnet magnets because of unpatched security holes. IOS generally gets completely stable for 98% of people within 3 months. Others tend to blame App crashes on Apple...
 
Am I the only one that sees a parallel between iOS 7 and XP? That 33% number may be with us for a long time...

No, I don't think the behavior we are seeing is a parallel to XP. In my small sampling of about 20 iOS users, I can say the following - people like me will jump on the latest to get new features and simply to be on the latest (geeks and fanboys). However 15 of the 20 in my sample, we're not aware an upgrade was available nor cared. Their phone worked and that's all the needed to know. This group only upgrades iOS when they upgrade the phone. I suspect the behavior is the same for iPads.

I therefore conclude that we will end up with a iOS version for the 2 year cycle, since most will upgrade at around two years. On the iPad we are seeing a hardware upgrade cycle at about 3 years.

To me, we are going to continue to see these numbers move slowly as folks buy the iPhone 6, but probably not see to many people with older hardware say all of a sudden - "where have I been? I need to upgrade my system on my iPhone 4"
 
The amount of people moaning in these comments is depressing.

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Ah, so every one who bought an iPhone 5C, like me, would be screwed? iOS 8 runs really well one my phone.

If I wanted my phone to stop giving me OS updates the second I bought it, I would have bought a Samsung.

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No.

If you had read my complete text instead of nitpicking 1 thing you would have read that A6 and A6X iDevices would have the option to downgrade to 7.1.2 OR stay with iOS 8.1.2 depending on the preference of their owner.
 
Awesome. Now I wish Apple would let me downgrade back to iOS 7 because iOS 8 is a complete *****how on my iPad 3. It's made Safari 100% worthless and the five to seven second delay when tying in any text box makes it so that I rarely if ever pick up my iPad to do anything other than watch youtube videos when I take a dump. iOS 8 is by far the worst version they've released and it's full of stupid bugs and horrible performance. After restoring it three times and setting it up as new I've decided that despite everything that Apple says they are hell bent on making sure that their hardware only lasts through one major update. Past that the performance is so terrible that the device is pretty much useless for everyday tasks. My $400+ iPad is now almost entirely useless because it takes literally almost ten seconds to respond to any input and it's all down to how terrible iOS 8 is. I really do not know why Apple refuses to let people downgrade and instead forces a terrible user experience on their customers for any reason other than to make sure that they can makes contextless boasts like this.

As you're using an A5X chip - one above from the oldest chip iOS 8 supports - try:

Settings > General > Accessibility > Reduce Motion
Settings > General > Accessibility > Increase Contrast > Reduce Transparency

You could also try backing up the iPad to iTunes, defaulting it to factory settings and then restoring it from the iTunes backup.

Failing everything else, take it to an Apple Store and talk to them.
 
IOS and OSX updates, cripple old hardware to force you to buy new... its a good tactic, if your an evil marketing person :rolleyes:

I'm on my seventh OS X update on 2007 iMac by now. Works fine. I don't know anyone with a 7 years old computer running windows 8.1, especially one that's fast. But yeah, they are crippling stuff on purpose
 
Using that logic my 3GS would be on 4... Its on 6.1.6 and its fine (its the 4 upgrade that slowed it the most, not the two that followed btw).

7 works very well on all 5 devices so why on earth would you not upgrade; and the 8 Interface is basically the same as 7. So why would you stay on 7... To fragment the ecosystem and become an utter mess like Android phones?

8.1.1 works OK on the Ipad 2, the 4S is slightly slugish but still better than most Android phones... That's my truth... Yours may differ according to what you like and your bias.

According to my "bias"? passive aggressive much?

No, A5/5X iDevices are the bare minimum to run iOS 8 and are sluggish compared to iOS 7 and 6. That's a simple fact.

If you further teardown my comparission,
iPhone 3GS and 4, iPod Touch 4 would run 6.1.6
iPhone 3G, iPad 1, iPod Touch 3 would run 5.1.1
iPhone 2 and 1Pod Touch 2would run 4.2.1
and iPhone 1, iPod Touch 1 would run 3.1.3


Supporting the two latest iOS versions on 5 or 6 different screen sizes makes for Android fragmentation? You must be joking!
 
Do you want to go in with me on a class action lawsuit against apple and how they destroy our older devices by putting out a crappy software update? I'm completely dead serious. I'll talk to the lawyer. Ios 6 shot my iphone 4 to hell and if I could go back down to ios 5.1.1 I would. I have all my shsh blobs for 5.1.1 saved on cydia's server but itunes will not let me downgrade.

Give me a break! That's all I'll say. Unlike what. XP that was broken until it got to service pack 2, or Vista that was broken for 2-3 years, or 7 which had to go a year to be stable. 95 or 98 never really got stable. Lets forget about ME... Windows 8 has had thousands of bugs fixed. I still get an unresponsive network every 3-4 days and the fix is nowhere in sight (I'm using Ethernet too, not some new tech). (Seems to be some memory leak in the TCP stack, really weird bug)

As for Androids, I know there are hundreds of bugs; version 5 right now is bugged up solid, 50 times worse than 8 at launch.

Those are the facts. IOS compared to all those other software is relatively bug free and generally most important to moderate bugs are resolved within 3 months.
 
Stop selling 16 GB devices. Take a Snow Leopard year. Don't limit developers on things like iCloud drive and Widgets.
 
According to my "bias"? passive aggressive much?

No, A5/5X iDevices are the bare minimum to run iOS 8 and are sluggish compared to iOS 7 and 6. That's a simple fact.

If you further teardown my comparission,
iPhone 3GS and 4, iPod Touch 4 would run 6.1.6
iPhone 3G, iPad 1, iPod Touch 3 would run 5.1.1
iPhone 2 and 1Pod Touch 2would run 4.2.1
and iPhone 1, iPod Touch 1 would run 3.1.3


Supporting the two latest iOS versions on 5 or 6 different screen sizes makes for Android fragmentation? You must be joking!

Well, starting with 7, you CAN now delete the update if you don't want too.

I think you could also get rid of it on 6 without installing by backing your device and then restoring it and removing background updates (or not allowing them, which is not ideal if you actually need one, but those are old devices which will not get them anyway).

512MB 1G 1G 1G
4S 5 5s 6
A5 A6 A7 A8
IOS5 IOS6 IOS7 IOS8

3.5 4 inch 4inch 4.7
960 1,136 1136 1334
640 640 640 750

IPAD2 IPAD4 Air Air2
A5 A6X A7 A8X
1024
768

I know a lot of people who run the Ipad 2 on IOS 8 without a glitch (not significantly slow); but, 4S is slower, but still not bad at all. Considering the Ipad 2 has a bigger screen, not sure why IOS 8 would impact the 4S more than the Ipad 2. The issue are probably linked other things not reflected in those specs, maybe the memory interface is different or the storage faster, who knows.

If you don't force people to upgrade, you get a LOT of laggards. I can sort of understand it with 4S and Ipad 2 users, but I wouldn't want 5 or 5s users suddenly stop updating just for the heck of it. Though, starting with 7, doing just that got easier. That explains a bit why going to 8 is slower than going to 7.
 
This article should have compared iOS 8 adoption rates to where iOS 7 was at the same time after its introduction. I assume iOS 8's adoption is lower. But by how much? All the numbers given in the article are pretty much useless without some context.
 
sadly the inability to downgrade and new devices shipping with 8 , does skew the results.

I'd love to put my iPad back to 7.

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If your read an article featuring either Samsung or Microsoft, you will soon realise this may in fact be a religious cult site, where your balanced opinions will be viewed as heresy ;)

I bet that if you took a poll, a lot of users here would not even realise it's a rumors site lol....

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Where you come from live must be a lot slower..... ;)

8.1.2, IMO is better than 7.1.2 in my iPad 2. I wouldn't want to go back to that release.
 
Well, starting with 7, you CAN now delete the update if you don't want too.

I think you could also get rid of it on 6 without installing by backing your device and then restoring it and removing background updates (or not allowing them, which is not ideal if you actually need one, but those are old devices which will not get them anyway).

512MB 1G 1G 1G
4S 5 5s 6
A5 A6 A7 A8
IOS5 IOS6 IOS7 IOS8

3.5 4 inch 4inch 4.7
960 1,136 1136 1334
640 640 640 750

IPAD2 IPAD4 Air Air2
A5 A6X A7 A8X
1024
768

I know a lot of people who run the Ipad 2 on IOS 8 without a glitch (not significantly slow); but, 4S is slower, but still not bad at all. Considering the Ipad 2 has a bigger screen, not sure why IOS 8 would impact the 4S more than the Ipad 2. The issue are probably linked other things not reflected in those specs, maybe the memory interface is different or the storage faster, who knows.

If you don't force people to upgrade, you get a LOT of laggards. I can sort of understand it with 4S and Ipad 2 users, but I wouldn't want 5 or 5s users suddenly stop updating just for the heck of it. Though, starting with 7, doing just that got easier. That explains a bit why going to 8 is slower than going to 7.

Thank you for your answer and my apologies for my remark about "passive aggressive".

I'm also of opinion that people should upgrade, but I'm disagreeing with Apple about the minimum hardware requirements.

My iPhone 3GS, 4S and iPad 2 run iOS 6.1.2.
My other 4S and iPod Touch run iOS 7.0.6
My 5S and iPad Air run 8.1.1

I haven't tested it if it's still possible to upgrade my 3GS to 6.1.6, but for my two 4S, iPod Touch and iPad 2, I only see iOS 8.1.2 as upgrade option.
That's why they stay on 6.1.2 and 7.0.6, if Apple gave me still the option for 7.1.2 I would upgrade in an instant.
 
That's why they stay on 6.1.2 and 7.0.6, if Apple gave me still the option for 7.1.2 I would upgrade in an instant.

7.1.2 was released in june. what were you waiting for in those 3 month before iOS 8, if I may ask?
 
I'm on my seventh OS X update on 2007 iMac by now. Works fine. I don't know anyone with a 7 years old computer running windows 8.1, especially one that's fast. But yeah, they are crippling stuff on purpose

I too have 2007 iMac running Yosemite like a champ... only thing I had to do was upgrade the RAM on it....

Also, I am running Yosemite (faultless and speedy) on my late 2008 MBP...

I want to change my MBP, but the damn thing is running so well that I have no sane excuse to upgrade...

I guess I should rant at Apple for not allowing me to upgrade cuz my old MBP/iMac are working just fine....;)
 
I too have 2007 iMac running Yosemite like a champ... only thing I had to do was upgrade the RAM on it....

Also, I am running Yosemite (faultless and speedy) on my late 2008 MBP...

I want to change my MBP, but the damn thing is running so well that I have no sane excuse to upgrade...

I guess I should rant at Apple for not allowing me to upgrade cuz my old MBP/iMac are working just fine....;)

I wanted to buy a new iMac every time they released a new one. But until this one is running i won't. I put an SSD in it and with the stuff i do i can't think of a reason to buy a new one. When this one just breaks, then i'll buy one.
 
7.1.2 was released in june. what were you waiting for in those 3 month before iOS 8, if I may ask?

I had my preservations about installing iOS 7 on the iPad 2 and my old 4S, because I liked skeuomorphics and wasn't convinced that the A5 processor could handle it.

Then I bought an iPod Touch 5 and it came with 7.0.6, I upgraded it to 7.1.2 (just checked it) and it runs good. I still had my preservations because I use my Touch only as a dedicated mp3 player, so it doesn't get used intensively like my iPad and iPhones.

It was after that I saw my girlfriend's iPhone 4S running on 7.0.6, that I realized that 7.1.2 would also run good on my 4S and iPad 2, even when used intensively, but by then it was too late.
 
I wanted to buy a new iMac every time they released a new one. But until this one is running i won't. I put an SSD in it and with the stuff i do i can't think of a reason to buy a new one. When this one just breaks, then i'll buy one.

Mate - you are in for a long wait then....

I have managed to 'palm off' my late 2008 MBP to a new employee joining soon. I have ordered a 13" rMPB.. I can't wait for it...
 
For Android users a "lockup" is how the phone usually works so maybe they didn't see any different... Most Android users don't even bother upgrading their phone.... If they can even get the upgrade. More than half Android phones are Botnet magnets because of unpatched security holes. IOS generally gets completely stable for 98% of people within 3 months. Others tend to blame App crashes on Apple...

I don't even know how to respond to this.
 
The high adoption is simply because New and some updated apps only work on iOS. My second gen ipod is useless. That's Apple! :mad:
 
I think it's safe to say that the only reason this metric might have value are for developers who are taking advantage of APIs or features in one version of iOS vs another.

For everyone else - zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz who really cares?
 
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