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I wish everyone would just stop whining about iOS 7. You literally cannot read a single news story about iOS without someone chiming that they REFUSE to upgrade, and that everything Jonny Ive did was wrong, etc, etc, ad nauseam. Honestly, it's like having a conversation with my grandfather. The fact is that all users have differing preferences about how they like to interact with their computers. The OS may not be everyone's cup of tea, but for the most part, it was designed with a lot of forethought. What I'd like to see Apple do is give users a bit more control over the look and feel, much like what is possible on the desktop. And that's been lacking in every version of iOS from 1 to 7. I'm not suggesting that they allow an Andriod-like free for all, but for example, simply the providing the ability to resize the icons and spacing grid would a be welcome change. If Apple let users have a few more tweaks, I'm betting they'd encounter a lot less consternation when it came to interface changes.

In terms of specifics, though, I think the problems with iOS 7 are relatively far between. Adding Wifi access to Control Center, for example, seems like an unfortunate oversight that's easily correctible. My only real beef comes in Music, which I find to be wholly unnavigable. The track names are difficult to read and frustrating to scroll through. The Play/Pause/Skip buttons are far too small and inconveniently reached, even on the larger screen of my iPad. And the fact that there is no way to navigate tracks with any sort of multitouch gesture seems to defeat the entire point of a touch-based OS. It is literally impossible to play music in the car, navigate it, and drive safely. (In comparison to an iPod Nano, where one could feel the button or simply shake-to-shuffle without ever taking one's eyes off the road. Not completely hands free, but tremendously better than glancing down to fumble with a touch screen.) Aside from this, though, I think the rest of iOS 7 is sound as a pound. So Mr. Ive, if you're reading this, thanks for the hard work and please fix the Music App. :)
 
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Tips

If this is legit I hope that the Tips app will be a visual user guide similar to the videos you can see in the Apple Stores. Most of iOS user have no idea of what they can do with their devices, I see it all the time, many people only use 50% of the device capabilities but when you introduce them to the features they don't know they start using them. Even if Apple tries to keep everything intuitive, there are still many features that people don't know how to use.
 
The answer here is to remove the bloody silos that files are stuck in within each apps.

I'm in favor of 'merging' silos rather than outright killing them.

Pages and Text Edit and Notes should all see the same files, yes.

But don't get rid of the concept entirely. Is there any reason at all why I can see MP3s when browsing files using Text Edit on the Mac? It's only because that's the way it's always been done. Which is never a good reason to carry something over to a new system.
 
All of the people saying iOS doesn't need TextEdit because it has Pages and Notes apparently have absolutely no idea what TextEdit actually does.

Yes, but what TextEdit does and is useful for aren't things that Apple permits. So it will inevitably be dumbed down (and seemingly read only in this case) version of Notes, which will result in a terrible mess.

The blunt truth is quite simple - TextEdit should never have been a cloud orientated app in OSX in the first place, and making it so was a very, very stupid idea. Notes should have been ported to OSX faster, and did the job of an idiot proof quick note editor better. Pages fills the gap for a cloud enabled word processor better too.

I really don't know what Apple is thinking trying to tie iOS so close to OSX. The majority of iOS users don't own a Mac, and never will. They're going to be truly baffled at that these apps are for. I'm very worried for the future of iOS if iOS8 is in this sort of mess three months before it would normally be shown to the public.
 
Everyone who says "Apple would never use ugly icons like that even in a placeholder" doesn't remember Skankphone:
 

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I'm sceptical around the TextEdit app over anything else. Why would Apple put the 'quick and filthy' file editor tool into iOS? You can't see the filesystem, and I use TextEdit on my Mac solely to modify the .hosts file - why would it be on iOS?

TextEdit is actually quite powerful. It edits RTF including tables, it edits HTML, you can add images and so on.
 
I see your point there, but I don't see why you would need to 'micro-manage' app permissions, that's bad UX - and makes it very Androidy. It would be good if we could use it as a "USB mass storage device" and drop files on and off it, either through iCloud, USB or AirDrop, preview could be used to view this little repo, and open the correct app? If it was to work, it needs to be the Apple 'just works' idea, micro-managing isn't any good nowadays.

Looks like if this screenshot is legitimate, Apple is creating a Mac desktop-esque design for iCloud and iOS.
 
Mark Gurman from 9to5Mac has a 100% perfect track record when it comes to his own sources. Yeah, 100%, he’s never been wrong so far out of the 30 times he chimed in on something and it later got verified.

And now he’s saying:
"I have confirmed with several sources that these shots are legitimate"

Of course those OS X-esque icons are placeholders, but I would still expect those feature in iOS 8 judging by Gurman's accuracy.

Sure, the icons will get redone, but I have to wonder what is the point of TextEdit on iOS? How is different from Notes? If it's meant for rich text editing, then how is it different from Pages? And I imagine the name will change, too. TextEdit doesn't sound very iOS-ish.

Same goes for Preview. What is the purpose of Preview? How does it offer anything that can't be achieved with iBooks, Photos, and the camera roll? Each application I use already has the ability to view common formats (graphics & PDFs) inline, without needing a helper application (thanks, Cocoa Touch). In my experience with iCloud, there's no way to save a file in one app and open it in another; each app has it's own iCloud directory and it can't read or write anywhere except it's own directory.

This whole report makes no sense to me.
 
iOS 8 Screenshot Reveals New Healthbook, Preview and TextEdit Icons

If this is real..Steve goes and leaks abound.
 
I find it odd that anyone who frequents MacRumors would question leaks that come from Mark Gurman. He is literally the ONLY person whose leaks can be trusted. His sources have proven themselves to be legit.
 
The answer here is to remove the bloody silos that files are stuck in within each apps. iOS is beginning to feel like a bunch of disconnected messes. iOS is actually becoming more and more cumbersome and getting more counterintuitive as time goes on. App silos just aren't how people work. When people work on a project, they keep all files for that particular project in one folder all together so they can review the files and keep up to date with a particular project all at once. If I standardly use 7 files of varying file types for a typical publishing process and I'm running out the door and need to check to make sure I have everything I need, I don't want to have to sit there and open up and go into and out of 7 different apps to check on the files I need for 1 bloody project. Let me put all the files for that project in one folder all, all files for a project all together. I look in one folder glance to make sure I have what I need, then off I go. Please Apple, don't be so hell bent on 'simplicity' that you actually making it MORE bloody confusing than all the other 'confusing' mobile OS's you polk fun at for being 'confusing'. :confused:

Yes. Yes x 100!
 
Healthbook App Shown on iPhone Air concept video

Which existed first? The iPhone Air concept video or this iOS 8 screenshot?
It seems that the Healthbook App is alsoshown in the concept video except the icon is colored differently.
 
I agree with you that Text Edit is becoming useless, but what's the solution here? Kill it off and erase everyone's files? Merge them into Pages? People will complain that Pages is more complicated. Merge them into Notes? People will complain that Notes is too simple.

I may be the only one but with Notes and Pages all free now I really don't see the point of TextEdit anymore. I can't remember the last time I've used the application. For me, if this is true, TextEdit on the iPhone will be another app that goes into my folder of apps I can't remove but don't want to see.

TextEdit is not useless. Notes is for jotting down notes. Pages is a full blown word processor. TextEdit is a ... wait for it ... text editor! It's for opening files, almost any file*, regardless of extension, and editing it. (*any non-binary, not encrypted, ASCII file).

A text editor is an absolute necessity for any proper desktop OS. I suppose people could use Emacs in the terminal instead... or they could use TextEdit.
 
All of the people saying iOS doesn't need TextEdit because it has Pages and Notes apparently have absolutely no idea what TextEdit actually does.

All the people that think all the functions of textedit can't be implemented in Pages apparently don't understand what Pages does.

Now that I'm rubber and you're glue, have we gotten anywhere in this argument? Maybe you could add something constructive? Maybe define what you mean? You may have a valid point, but I the app that allows me to read your mind isn't working on my iPhone right now....
 
TextEdit is not useless. Notes is for jotting down notes. Pages is a full blown word processor. TextEdit is a ... wait for it ... text editor! It's for opening files, almost any file*, regardless of extension, and editing it. (*any non-binary, not encrypted, ASCII file).

A text editor is an absolute necessity for any proper desktop OS. I suppose people could use Emacs in the terminal instead... or they could use TextEdit.

Or just set up pages to be able to do everything text editor does, because if it can be implemented in one program, it can be implemented in another, right?
 
Which existed first? The iPhone Air concept video or this iOS 8 screenshot?
It seems that the Healthbook App is alsoshown in the concept video except the icon is colored differently.

Back when the first Healthbook rumors leaked, it was reported that it would be very similar to Passbook in terms of looks. Therefore, the person who created the iPhone Air video essentially took the Passbook app style, changed the colors, and added health related icons.

That was pretty easy to deduce. These screenshots are likely real, and the Healthbook icon shown here follows along the same logic.

The Healthbook icon in the iPhone Air video would not have influenced the actual icon, as the one in the video was based around rumors of the real Healthbook (presumably shown here).
 
Stickies: nothing, in my opinion
OS X Notes: To sync with Notes in iOS

Basically this.

Honestly, I wish they would have somehow combined Reminders, TextEdit, Stickies, and Notes into one single app.

I tried using the apps for their original purposes but I could never remember where I stuck things so I ended up just sticking to Notes and just checking it frequently. If I need an actual reminder to do something iCal works fine for me.
 
I think that they use Preview and Text Edit for testing purposes only. I don't see the point in adding the preview feature to iOS.
 
Or just set up pages to be able to do everything text editor does, because if it can be implemented in one program, it can be implemented in another, right?

Except the workflow for the two are completely different, and adding features TextEdit has would clutter up Pages with little benefit to the consumer.

That being said, I still fail to see how having TextEdit on iOS would benefit many people.
 
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