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Oh, so I guess 8.0.1 is never coming out.

I don't think you get it. This isn't news because every dot-0 release has these same complaints and there is always a .01 to solve it. The battery issues are typically the app updates coming fast and furious and chewing through your battery while the Wifi issues are invariably incompatibility with routers untested by Apple (same thing with every new HTC, Samsung, Motorola and Sony device with regards to Wifi)

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I bought an iPad mini. It had defective WiFi. I took it back to Apple for diagnostics. Before the tech came out a One to One instructor pulled me over to the side and said it was my router, not the device. I'm using AE. She told me I have to update to the then new ac standard. She was not willing to consider that all other devices were working properly on the AE, even the cheap Acer netbook. Remember netbooks (TC). She hung tough trying to hard sell that router.

The tech ran diagnostics. The iPad mini had connectivity issues. I got another one. WiFi is better but not much and definitely not as good as that cheap Acer netbook or my old iBook.

Apple quality is suffering. There is no sensible reason for people to make up issues on the devices.

Your one device had a faulty wifi antenna or chip and Apple's quality is suffering. Got it. Can you do me a favor and monitor the tech forums across the web whenever a new device is released? It's the same story every time: "wifi issues, but a software patch is coming".

There are a plethora of routers out there and they all do things a bit differently in how they implement the "standard". Invariably the device makers do not anticipate every single router. Such is life. But you thinking your one unit is indicative of a trend is the very definition of anecdotal evidence.
 
Yeah i've noticed significant network issues with iOS 8, it seems to be messing with the connectivity of my entire wifi network. If I disconnect my iOS 8 devices from my wifi, the internet works fine again. Very strange.
 
Perhaps people are seeing a drain on battery because they are using it more often because there are new features? Everytime a new version is released, or a new iPhone, people seem to complain about the battery. I drained my iPhone 6 today because I can't stop using it, not because it has battery issues.

When the next point release comes out and Apple specifically say that it fixes battery issues, what will you say then?
 
Perhaps people are seeing a drain on battery because they are using it more often because there are new features? Everytime a new version is released, or a new iPhone, people seem to complain about the battery. I drained my iPhone 6 today because I can't stop using it, not because it has battery issues.

No, there is actually an issue that I experienced on iOS 8 with my 4S. I restored to iOS 8 GM and then restored from my back-up. The result was my battery was dying around 2:00 PM when it wasn't before with no difference in usage. I restored it as a brand new device and re-setup everything manually and still the battery life was the same. I restored to 7.1.2 and battery life went back to normal, which was about 50+% by 4:00 PM.

Same deal after the official release came out. I can't blame it too much, my phone is 3 years old now so the battery is likely losing some charge, but iOS 7.1.2 got me through the day where iOS 8 couldn't.
 
Yeah i've noticed significant network issues with iOS 8, it seems to be messing with the connectivity of my entire wifi network. If I disconnect my iOS 8 devices from my wifi, the internet works fine again. Very strange.

You're not noticed issues with spotlight? I check the suggestion and the Bing search. But isn't works.

Any clue?
 
I've actually found that iOS 8 improved the battery life on my iPhone 5. Now, it might be my imagination, but I'm certain it's no worse than before.




:apple:

I also have seen the same thing. The battery on my iPhone 5 seems to last longer. Much longer in fact
 
My 4S has no problems whatsoever... because I did not update it from iOS 7.

Sorry could not resist saying that this is why I wait a little bit, if possible, to upgrade to a major new operating system version.

Let some of you nice people suffer through the little problems which will get ironed out shortly.
 
So, do you backup, then restore from backup? Or just reset to factory settings, then do everything manually? Sorry for the basic question - not very technical.

No you're fine! Reset to factory, do everything manually. I know it's a little bit of work - but good to do about once a year anyway and you can think of it as a chance to clean the clutter and only put back on what you actually care about. Remember to import your photos! And understand your message history will not come back - say your goodbyes
 
Yeah i've noticed significant network issues with iOS 8, it seems to be messing with the connectivity of my entire wifi network. If I disconnect my iOS 8 devices from my wifi, the internet works fine again. Very strange.

Possibly a mac address issue, some routers also tend to fill their device slots when too many new devices come in. Try it on another router to see if you have the same issue. Some people were talking about mac address randomization possibly being an issue (its a setting I believe, still haven'T got my own phone ;-).
 
Not able to use the DO NOT DISTURB feature in messages. Anyone else able to use it ? Message notifications still come through when turned on.
 
When the next point release comes out and Apple specifically say that it fixes battery issues, what will you say then?


First, not everyone has the problem. So, its not a general issue. You are acting like everyone has this problem. I don't see it around me at all.

Secondly, it happens EVERY YEAR on release to a wider public. Why? People of the limited sampling that release a beta produces. The wider public that buys the phone are NOT the same as those usually participating in Beta tests.

Thus, they have older, out of specs, more exotic, rarer WIFI routers configured it hundreds of different ways, that weren't tested against.

Third, Considering the extreme breadth of the Apple release, those things emerge all the same time, rather than over a month or two with other phones. More phones in circulation, more interactions with those problematic devices.

Its even possible that some new things introduced, like mac address randomization, totally messes a select group of routers up.

Its possible that there in fact dozens of seperate problematic, off spec, interactions with WIFI routers. The "fix" would then need to be a "fix" for all of these. They probably would not release a "fix" until those involving the most people are resolved. They don't want to dribble out releases.
 
Welcome to 2000 -whatever. I've been having battery drain and gps issues eversince the latest Android update to my S4. Between Samsung, Google and AT&T, it likely will be a LONG LONG time before any of these issues are addressed. At least with Apple the fixes are more timely. I can't wait to get an iPhone 6!!
 
Creating Software and Hardware Engineering solutions is hard. Extending existing ones is even harder. :apple:

If you change ANYTHING in the network stack (which they don't totally control since they're not making the chip), well there is a risk of breakage you will not totally detect. Obviously, the company that makes the chip has a good deal of responsibility in making sure it works widely.

Regression testing is a bitch, especially when you don't have all the devices (and their myriad of configurations) you're potentially breaking compatibility with.

Often they try to test to present and past standards (often implemented in their own hardware like Airport) and to the most used devices they interact with. But, they don't think they can't test all of them. It is simply impossible.
 
Yeh, that was along the lines of what I was thinking, that is to say that the reason that iOS updates are available for free is that we become the Beta testers. So rather than Apple have to pay money to their employees to fully test a product, we get to test it and as a bonus or payment for doing so we get the product for free.

Nah. Apple gives the illusion of free. If they charged for the update people wouldnty pay.

They offer update for free people will update.

Apple know app developers will update their apps and people will pay to update and play their apps. Apple gets a cut of every sale.

Apple ain't stupid. Ios updates appear free but they are not. That's why apple is rushing out ios updates each year when they aren't really needed.

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First, not everyone has the problem. So, its not a general issue. You are acting like everyone has this problem. I don't see it around me at all.

Secondly, it happens EVERY YEAR on release to a wider public. Why? People of the limited sampling that release a beta produces. The wider public that buys the phone are NOT the same as those usually participating in Beta tests.

Thus, they have older, out of specs, more exotic, rarer WIFI routers configured it hundreds of different ways, that weren't tested against.

Third, Considering the extreme breadth of the Apple release, those things emerge all the same time, rather than over a month or two with other phones. More phones in circulation, more interactions with those problematic devices.

Its even possible that some new things introduced, like mac address randomization, totally messes a select group of routers up.

Its possible that there in fact dozens of seperate problematic, off spec, interactions with WIFI routers. The "fix" would then need to be a "fix" for all of these. They probably would not release a "fix" until those involving the most people are resolved. They don't want to dribble out releases.

The wider public? It's macrumours users. Hardly wider public. Macrumours users are finding more bugs than the beta testers. Wtf
 
Nah. Apple gives the illusion of free. If they charged for the update people wouldnty pay.

They offer update for free people will update.

Apple know app developers will update their apps and people will pay to update and play their apps. Apple gets a cut of every sale.

Apple ain't stupid. Ios updates appear free but they are not. That's why apple is rushing out ios updates each year when they aren't really needed.

The last two updates introduces massive changes above board and in the services and SDK. So, not sure what you are talking bout. Previous ones were much slower, so much so that people were saying IOS fell behind Android. So, they should have stayed behind?
 
Updated an iPhone 5 and a Mini Retina to iOS 8 and using an iPhone 6 with iOS 8 without any problems. Battery and Wifi etc. are fine. Even the stuff I expected issues with, like Continuity, works as my iPad rings when the iPhone does :)

I did set all of them up as "New" though. Maybe that avoids conflicts with older Apps and code?
 
I have always had battery drain on iOS when restoring a new phone from a backup of another phone. One of the reasons why I switched to Android. A few solutions are to "reset all settings" and "reset network settings" - that has fixed it for many people in the past.

The best option is to just set it up as a new phone, but then of course, there is no way to migrate your data.
 
This is exactly why I always wait a few weeks after a major release so the bugs can be found and worked out. I must give a heartfelt thanks to all the early adopters/beta testers!

So far iOS 8 is working perfectly on my 5s and iPad air.
 
Battery draining

I experienced battery drainage on the first day with iOS 8 on my iPhone 5. The second day I was back to normal. This makes me think there's some bug that makes the battery appear fully charged after the upgrade, while it really has much lower charge.
 
Perhaps people are seeing a drain on battery because they are using it more often because there are new features? Everytime a new version is released, or a new iPhone, people seem to complain about the battery. I drained my iPhone 6 today because I can't stop using it, not because it has battery issues.

Nope, there's definitely an issue. My iPhone 5s battery life has dropped around 40% while it is on standby. The reason - according to the usage per app - was the email that somehow now seems to be responsible for a good 85% of the battery capacity drain (this was not an issue before iOS 8, same mail accounts are configured, nothing changed).

Problem seems to get a slightly better if I turn off email push notifications, so I now have to check email manually to get new emails. This was not an issue with iOS 7. Even with email push notifications off, battery life is still shorter. There's definitely something wrong here.
 
so, better not upgrade ?

I'm glad i held back now. See what happens when everyone rushes ? you get bit. I probably wouldn't have a problem, if i could downgrade, but since that's not possible.
 
Battery drain?

I just turned off suggested apps.

Settings/general/suggested apps/ App Store and apps

Don't see any point. Not interested in some store app popping up when I'm near. I can think for myself. If I wanna shop there I'll look for app.

Maybe that helps?
 
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