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I'm surprised nobody has mentioned how swipe left from the home screen gives you a search box, Siri Suggestions, Nearby, and News. Just how search used to be in the pre-iOS7 world.
You mean the pre-iOS7 world where accessing search required multiple swipes (or a home button press + a swipe) if you weren't on the first page? Or is there something inherently simpler in swiping left (actually it is swiping to the right) than swiping down?
 
If you find the difference between the-button-is-smaller-now and the-app-is-unuseable so inconsequential that pointing it out would be pedantic, then there is little that can be discussed furthermore. Or maybe, in your neck of the woods, lying by extreme exaggeration is standard social code. It however makes any actual discourse practically impossible as you don't have any linguistic differentiation between a small problem and huge problem as both get described by absolutist statements. In essence, voicing an opinion is reduced to a thumbs down or thumbs up, don't really language for that.

The volume scrubber doesn't work consistently, or at all. The scrubber for the song is terrible, tiny, and far less accurate than it used to be. It's not hard. Keep it simple with big buttons. Sure it looks nice but the basic features don't even work properly. Again this was why I asked if I was the only one who was encountering these problems. The feedback from other posters would suggest this isn't isolated to my phone.

Form over function, that's what it is. It's a music app, not a work of art. I don't mind it looking pretty but if the simple music playing functions aren't working as they should then they've got their priorities wrong.

Try choosing/skipping songs/adjusting volume in this app while driving compared to earlier iOS iterations, for instance. It's inconceivably unpractical.
 
'We don't mind your emails, your photos or your contacts in the cloud to learn things about you, we honestly just don't want to know.' - Craig Federighi

Like that will stop the frantic reports crying privacy invasions. I should have said my post was meant to be sarcastic.
 
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No its not because those "resources" (the tiny amount of ram of disk space) are immediately released when something in the foreground wants to use them.
Exactly, that is why Safari tabs often are refreshing when you have used other app(s) in between. If another app needs the RAM, it's taken from Safari and Safari (or any other app) can do nothing about it. Thus this list of recently apps doesn't tell you anything about whether any of these apps still has something stored in RAM.
 
For people complaining about screenshots cluttering up their All Photos album, you might like my app Screenshot Journal http://appstore.com/screenshotjournal

It will scan your photos and copy all your screenshots into itself, and then it can delete them from your Camera Roll/All Photos.
 
I think all cable news networks are worthless, but it boggles me how so many people talk trash about Fox and not the others.

The issue at the end of the day is that Fox is demonstrably, provably the worst of them all. There have been scads of studies which track the number of things said per hour, per day, per time block (usually the prime ratings hours), etc. wherein each item is fact checked. Fox is the worst at truthiness by orders of magnitude.
 
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Nonsense. if they are enable to run in the background, they will use resources. Having said that, closing them is completely unnecessary as the system manages what is running and will suspend apps when it runs out of memory or resources. The only time you should ever need to close anything is if you have given something permission to run-in the background and no longer want it to.

For once, an app being on that list doesn't tell you whether it is using resources or not. And if you want to proactively cut off apps from using resources in the background, telling them once to not to do so (via the Background App Refresh settings) is much less work a removing them from the app switcher every day.
 
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It is just a list of recently used apps. What else does it represent in your opinion? A list of app carrying out background activities? But why would then every single app you have used show up in the order you have used them show up there? Are all apps you have used still carrying out background activities? Carrying out background activities despite all or some of them being explicitly banned for doing background activities as set by the 'Background App Refresh' (Settings app > General > Background App Refresh)?
Background refresh isn't disabled by default, so it isn't solely a list of recently used apps.
 
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If there's an app state that's stored, as you said, then it is using at least some resources. Whether it's storage or RAM it doesn't matter, still using resources and there should still be an easy way to close them all.

Maybe that'll be one of the Force Touch special features; Force Touch the app switcher screen and select "Close All".
As already said, the RAM is marked as re-writable (and there is no swapping out to disk for RAM in iOS, ie, there is zero waiting time for that RAM to become available and zero disk space taken up by swapped out RAM). The disk space that is used is for a screenshot of the last state and for information about the state of the app (eg, what game level you were in, etc.).

I just checked the file size of a random screenshot: 184 kB. If you have 100 apps in that switcher, that would 18.4 MB in total (I currently have 100 apps in there, I don't know if this is a coincidence or if there is an internal limit). Hardly something to worry about.How much space is used to store the state of an app is hard to tell. But it won't be a big amount. How much space would it take to store the game level, points scored etc. or to store the name of the file that was open for, eg, text editors? And is it really worth worrying about that space vs being returned to the same page in a document when you return to an app?

Apple is implementing vastly more effective space reductions for apps (in the tens of percent) in iOS 9 with under the hood optimisation (eg, resources in an app not needed for a given hardware it is running on) than a method to quickly remove the stored screenshots and app states could achieve.

If you want to cut off any background activity, disabling 'Background App Refresh' is a one time thing compared to doing a Close All every day. In regard to the background activities not covered by 'Background App Refresh' (playing audio, tracking location, waiting for phone calls), the scope for that is limited. There is only ever one app that can play audio at a given moment; it usually is pretty clear to the user whether there is a background app playing or not. If any app is using location services (like giving directions), you see that in the status bar at the top. You can also control which apps can use location services in the background via Setting > Privacy > Location Services. Again, a one time setting compared to removing apps from every day.
 
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You're just playing stupid to make a point. Background refresh isn't disabled by default, so it isn't solely a list of recently used apps. Case closed.
Nope, being on the list simply means the app was 'recently' used. You cannot tell from the list whether an app is actually having any background activity. And by now I think we have established pretty clearly that doing a 'Kill all' every day is vastly less efficient than simply switching off the background activities for the apps you don't want any background activity (be it via Background App Refresh, Location Services or other means).
 
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The volume scrubber doesn't work consistently, or at all. The scrubber for the song is terrible, tiny, and far less accurate than it used to be. It's not hard. Keep it simple with big buttons. Sure it looks nice but the basic features don't even work properly. Again this was why I asked if I was the only one who was encountering these problems. The feedback from other posters would suggest this isn't isolated to my phone.

Form over function, that's what it is. It's a music app, not a work of art. I don't mind it looking pretty but if the simple music playing functions aren't working as they should then they've got their priorities wrong.

Try choosing/skipping songs/adjusting volume in this app while driving compared to earlier iOS iterations, for instance. It's inconceivably unpractical.
I have no problems with the volume scrubber or the timeline scrubber, the animation might not be buttery smooth but I can scrub in one-second intervals.

I have no problems skipping songs or adjusting volume while driving because I use the headphone remote (as we all should instead of taking our eyes of the road). And while the 'Now playing' bar at the bottom looks small, I so far have never missed hitting even once. And after you have hit it, you have an UI which is pretty much the same as before. In fact, I find that now playing bar at the bottom to be clearly better than what we had before when we were in any list and had to find out way back to the now playing screen.

But in general, I fail to understand the need to get our panties into a bunch and get acid about a changed UI, in particular a UI that gained so much new functionality.
 
I have no problems with the volume scrubber or the timeline scrubber, the animation might not be buttery smooth

But in general, I fail to understand the need to get our panties into a bunch and get acid about a changed UI, in particular a UI that gained so much new functionality.

'not buttery smooth', and that's OK? We're talking about a volume slider and a song scrub tool, for Christ's sake. We're not talking about compiling applications or mining bitcoins. These are the core functional basics for a music application - that's an application that plays your music, primarily. There were no issues with it running buttery smooth on iOS 4 on an 800MHz iPhone 4 processor, so why on Earth is it acceptable now?

The point on the older apps was that you didn't have to take your eyes off the road; it was intuitive, everything was where it was meant to be, and you could do it one-handed from muscle-memory only.
 
I have no problems with the volume scrubber or the timeline scrubber, the animation might not be buttery smooth but I can scrub in one-second intervals.

I have no problems skipping songs or adjusting volume while driving because I use the headphone remote (as we all should instead of taking our eyes of the road). And while the 'Now playing' bar at the bottom looks small, I so far have never missed hitting even once. And after you have hit it, you have an UI which is pretty much the same as before. In fact, I find that now playing bar at the bottom to be clearly better than what we had before when we were in any list and had to find out way back to the now playing screen.

But in general, I fail to understand the need to get our panties into a bunch and get acid about a changed UI, in particular a UI that gained so much new functionality.

Anyway not that it matters, I'm sick of the gradual descent of simplicity, intuitiveness and practicality of the Music app, so I've moved to 'CarTunes' - at least there's an alternative that works, so I haven't really lost out :)
 
Nope, being on the list simply means the app was 'recently' used. You cannot tell from the list whether an app is actually having any background activity. And by now I think we have established pretty clearly that doing a 'Kill all' every day is vastly less efficient than simply switching off the background activities for the apps you don't want any background activity (be it via Background App Refresh, Location Services or other means).

Sigh. Perhaps. You're positive that they're not using resources if they appear in that "list" as long as background refreshing is disabled?
 
That's not how it works. Those apps aren't open. Only one app is open at a time on iOS. Those are just shortcuts to recently used apps. "Closing" them just resets their stored app state, but it's not using resources.

they may not be technically running but they do cause conflicts. Very often when i am listening to the podcast app, my max volume will be about 60 percent. I have to go through the multitasking view and close apps until the volume is corrected. facebook, safari and internet radio apps are usually the culprits. a video i watched 2 hours ago on facebook will be the problem or something
 
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Has anyone had any issues with ios9 beta and the apple watch? For example with beta 1 and 2 my apple watch running the normal OS (NOT OS2) had an issue connecting to my phone the Bluetooth would just keep flashing .
 
they may not be technically running but they do cause conflicts. Very often when i am listening to the podcast app, my max volume will be about 60 percent. I have to go through the multitasking view and close apps until the volume is corrected. facebook, safari and internet radio apps are usually the culprits. a video i watched 2 hours ago on facebook will be the problem or something

That's an annoying bug.

I find that I can fix it sometimes by pulling Control Centre up, then adjusting the volume.
 
Anyone notice they swapped the system font? Helvetica for San Francisco it looks like, this will be a welcome change if so.
 
Sigh. Perhaps. You're positive that they're not using resources if they appear in that "list" as long as background refreshing is disabled?
What do you think this 'Background App Refresh' setting means? That it is just there for decorative purposes? Background App Refresh means that apps can wake up for limited periods of time (essentially the OS monitors their actual usage and if, eg, an email client were to check for emails only once per hour, the OS then only allows the app to wake up once per hour, apps can abuse this system but the OS naturally tries to differentiate between network calls that actually resulted in data flowing and spurious once that don't result in anything). But off means off for this category.

There are exceptions to this rule [that apps don't do anything with Background App Refresh disabled]:
a) apps can request a couple of minutes to finish certain tasks when the app is put into the background, eg, finishing a down- or upload, I think the maximum is five minutes for this at the moment (the precise number has changed over the years)
b) apps can play audio in the background but it is generally pretty obvious when an app is doing so (in particular since only one app can do so at any given moment)
c) apps can request location information (similar to Background App Refresh) that can be shut off globally or per app basis, if that is used, the 'compass arrow' is visible in the status bar, in the Location Services settings you can also see which app is currently using location services and which app has used it in the last 24 hours
d) apps can provide active navigation or VoIP services while in the background, that is indicated via a coloured status bar
e) there used to be an exception for VoIP listening for calls in the background but it seems that got replaced with push notifications

There is also the built-in fitness tracking of the OS (although these data can be accessed via the Health app, they are collected independently by the OS, the Health app is just one of the apps that can access them, third-party apps can access them to). It is background activity that is not linked to any app running and it can be switched off in Settings > Privacy > Motion & Fitness). There are other background processes of the OS that can be switched off: Location Services for stuff like compass calibration, setting the time zone, help with WiFi networking and many more like Bluetooth, 3G/4G, WiFi, iCloud syncing, backup, etc..

Usage monitoring per app can be done for: the aforementioned Location Services, the amount of data used via cellular, the amount of battery power (General > Usage > Battery Usage). In there, apps with genuine background activity have that label (for me that is currently Mail, Glympse and Skype, though apps using less than 1% of battery power aren't listed, nevertheless, the listed apps' battery usage adds up to 100%, ie, there isn't much battery usage by less-than-one-percent-usage apps). There is a third-party app called System which shows you (similar to Activity Monitor on the Mac) the current CPU, memory and network usage and the list of running processes. The only third-party processes I can recognise in there are Skype and Nimbuzz (with Background App Refresh switched off), and if I remove both apps via the task switcher, they disappear from that list. This means the exception (e) for VoIP still seems to be there in some form and removing these two apps from the app switcher does stop their activity (though Skype is listed as only having consumed only 1% of battery, so this isn't doing much harm).

As I said, I have 100 apps in my app switcher. I can guarantee you they are not all running in the background (the unix-like list of processes in the third-party app System would be showing any processes if there were any running ones).
 
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So..I can create a folder, put all of Apples applications in it and finally delete it right? RIGHT? Awww.
 
'not buttery smooth', and that's OK? We're talking about a volume slider and a song scrub tool, for Christ's sake. We're not talking about compiling applications or mining bitcoins. These are the core functional basics for a music application - that's an application that plays your music, primarily. There were no issues with it running buttery smooth on iOS 4 on an 800MHz iPhone 4 processor, so why on Earth is it acceptable now?
Yes, it is ok, it's a very minor UI irritation that in no way comes close to your description of running "inconsistently or not at all".
 
So..I can create a folder, put all of Apples applications in it and finally delete it right? RIGHT? Awww.
I am waiting for your demand to being able to delete all the settings in the Settings app that you don't need.
 
But they're not "open" its a list of recently opened apps. You should probably go back to the original key note and WWDC conference notes to see how multi-tasking works in iOS. This is not Android.

I know how multitasking works on iOS ok, you also forgot that some apps do use resouces in the background since iOS 7, so if i want an app to update itself in the background while i'm using it and other apps, a will just leave it there, but if i don't want to use it anymore, in order to have a better battery life, for ex; i should close it (so i don't need to toggle the app to never update content in the background), or, if i want to browse on safari and i'll have some tabs opened and i don't want safari to reaload 'em every time i switch tabs, i should close some apps, because even though ios do kill apps in the background to have more memory available, it does't always do it, so i still may need to do it manually
 
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