Yeah it was pretty traumatizing to get 64 for the same price 32 was a year before. Still reeling over that one...
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iOS 9 Includes New Auto App Delete/Reinstall Feature for OS Updates on Devices With Insufficient Space
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Yeah it was pretty traumatizing to get 64 for the same price 32 was a year before. Still reeling over that one...
I was getting ready to post this. The difference in cost for Apple between 16 and 32 GB flash is negligible. Apple might spend more in bandwidth costs for this convoluted workaround when people are forced into re-downloading apps.
I know... I was also traumatized when they started giving us 32GB for the same price 16GB was a year before.... OH WAIT... THAT DIDN'T HAPPEN!
I have a 64GB but always am running very low on free space and have to delete apps or photos to make space for others. No junk apps or photos either. I used to have a 16GB and that was a pain in buttocks to use. For me, it seems the more space I have, the more I use. May have to get the 128GB next time...
Obviously, the former. Apple has crunched the numbers and as of right now, it must be better for their bottom line to develop this change instead of re-tooling for 32gb minimum for all devices.
How the hell did they shave it down to 1.3GB? That's like 3GB just gone. What did they delete?
Wow, that sounds a lot like a feature a software maker would create that doesn't have any control over the hardware it runs on...
You know, they could for once push the base model capacity.
Yes, this also helps those people who have filled their 128GB capacity devices to 99%, but we all know this feature got introduced because they keep dragging along the corpse that is 16GB.
Big capacity models with no space for an update are a niche scenario and Apple typically doesn't care a lot about niche scenarios unless it's about security issues maybe.
You know, they are so proud about what they don't do.
Well, if the feature doesn't restore app data, I sure as hell hope they communicate that, otherwise they'll create a lot of annoyed customers.
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You know, they could for once push the base model capacity.
Yes, this also helps those people who have filled their 128GB capacity devices to 99%, but we all know this feature got introduced because they keep dragging along the corpse that is 16GB.
Big capacity models with no space for an update are a niche scenario and Apple typically doesn't care a lot about niche scenarios unless it's about security issues maybe.
You know, they are so proud about what they don't do.
Well, if the feature doesn't restore app data, I sure as hell hope they communicate that, otherwise they'll create a lot of annoyed customers.
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Some of us have iPhones issued by work and don't get to choose our storage. My wife has a personal iPhone 6 with 64GB of storage. I have a work-issued iPhone 6 with 16GB of storage. (I was one of the lucky few when they issued everyone new phones last fall to get an iPhone 6 instead of a 5s, so I could hardly complain. I make do with my iPad Air 2 64GB and an old iPod Touch 5th gen 64GB.)
Make that 64GB or we'll have that same discussion in 1-2 years again.
Then again, realistically, this discussion will never die.
It's all about up selling. Customer satisfaction is taking a backseat here clearly.
I'm not disputing 16GB can't be enough for some, but going by that we can lower the specs in many ways.
It's about a good base model that holds up to today's common applications and needs, if you need less that's cool, but the price difference of 16GB vs 32GB NAND is abysmal and they have a lot to gain by "slashing" * their margin. (*well not really, that's the point, right?)
Well, what would they gain you might ask: Delivering a premium product with a solid base config looks less like nickeling and diming at any opportunity.
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Apparently software nudges like the reduced 300MB footprint of 8.3, the reduced space required to install iOS 9 and now this app deletion and installation technique is still cheaper than bumping the minimum iDevice capacity to 32GB.
Personally I'd rather have a minimum 32GB.
Personally I'd rather have a minimum 32GB.
Nah, it's all about a stupid pricing strategy: How to up-sell an iPhone? Give customers 3 options - basic (which can store f*** all), mid range (this is the one you want them to buy) and high end (holy grail with largest margins). Then make the 1st option affordable but not really worth buying for what you get, so that they go for the middle option to get "good value for money". And then for the top range, give them a beefy option - at a beefy premium, that will make the largest profit margin, even though the customer may not even need 128GB and they'll be seeing the phone in 2 years anyway.
Basic model should be 32GB full stop. And syncing with the mac should be making the most of Thunderbolt or USB 3.0 as my 5s is as slow as my 3G was...
Another possibility I guess, but I'd expect them to do this via their already tried and tested iCloud restore libraries. But on a per-App basis. Less code to write. Less code to maintain. More reliable longer-term.
It's not Passbook anymore, it is Wallet and it is very useful. Even if you not in US or UK you can store cinema tickets, boarding passes and misc event tickets there.
Apple Pay is included in the Wallet.
Newstand is changed in iOS 9, you still can be subscribed to magazines but they are stored as any other app - in a simple folder, and yes you can delete it.
Podcasts, — I think it is important to keep it preinstalled to expose more people to podcasting. Podcasting is struggling with low popularity for years. Any help to make podcasting more popular will make a word a better place. I use Overcast personally. If you don't listen to podcasts I record you to try it, you probably don't know how many interesting free shows out there.
Regarding Health I hope you change your mind. It is one of my favorite features from iOS 8. I even developing the app called Caffeine++ so everybody can easily track their caffeine intake every day. This app wouldn't be possible without Health. This is incredible for storing health data. It allows easily share it with any other health related app. It handles all kind of data starting from your steps. Finally, everybody should set up Medical ID with their information and a blood type, this can save somebody's life because thereis the option to access this information from the lock screen. Unlike Google Health, Apple Health never store information online (except encrypted iCloud backups).
Data (which includes app preferences) and app code are stored in separate folders (directories), as part of the prescribed design principles of iOS (and good software development practice in general). For the purpose of this new feature, the OS will delete only the app code folder, leaving the data folder intact.
This design requirement is critical to the backup process that's used every day. Developers are told, essentially, "Either store your data in the right place, or it won't be backed up." If a developer stored their data in the wrong place, the data loss would be detected the first time someone restored from a backup. This is why developers get advanced beta releases, people!
This new feature is just a twist on the established backup/restore process (data is backed up, app code is not - app code is re-downloaded from App Store, or synced from the computer).
It's true, when you delete an app from the Home screen, both the data and app folders are deleted - Apple doesn't want the devices filling up with data belonging to apps that may never be reinstalled, data that would be part of the backup and installed on your next iPhone, and the one after that, and the one after that.
And to all those 32GB-or-die people out there... It won't solve anything in the long run. There are always ways to use more space, and one of them is, "All machines capable of running iOS 12 have at least 32 GB, which means you developers can write fatter code now." Though Parkinson's Law was humorous by intent, nonetheless it contains a fundamental truth. Besides, do you really think you'll get 32GB at a 16GB price? All it would do is increase the price of the entry-level iPhone, which would make the cell phone companies very, very unhappy.
everything you said indicated you are exactly who i was replying to: young and too tech savvy for an iPhone base model.
everything in my comment you ignored: there are MILLIONS upon millions of people who aren't tech savvy and don't need the storage. for real, it may shock you, but there's a good portion of the population who buy an iPhone, find someone to set up their stock apps for them, download kindle and Facebook to keep up with their Soccermom/dad friends (or nothing at all since the app store is 'intimidating'), sync up to iCloud, and they're done worrying about/ tinkering with a phone for 4 years or more.
if you think it's all 'pricing' and no market research, you're kidding yourself.
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Even if iPhone 6 was started from 16 GB, there's plenty 8 and 16GB devices sold over 5 years. Or maybe you want Apple go back in time and fix this?
Yeh, that's why I said "mind the profanity". They clearly forgot to cross the other word outSo "bastard" is blurred but the f-word is visible? Some censorship that is!
find me a 5 year iPhone that is still supported by the current OS. go ahead, I'll wait.
As someone who has sold iPhones for seven years now, if people would just offload some of the 10,000+ photos they have on their phones, the majority of folks could easily install the upgrades. Not to knock this feature, it's always good to have options, but I personally believe this was wanted mainly due to laziness on the end user's part.
Seriously, nine times out of ten when a customer comes in saying they can't download the update it's because of pictures they haven't offloaded or backed up, ever.
Seriously, nine times out of ten when a customer comes in saying they can't download the update it's because of pictures they haven't offloaded or backed up, ever.