iOS 9 to Feature Force Touch With Haptic Feedback, New Keyboard and Group Read Receipts

[Roadstar]

You're kidding me right? You just have to hold down the letter key to see the accented versions such as é, ö, and ú. Im doing this on ios right now.

Even that isn't necessary when you enable and select the correct keyboard for the language you're typing in. At least for Finnish the three additional letters are added to the main level keyboard (digging them from the accent menu every time would be really annoying).

 

[dagamer34]

One. Who wants to do it.

"One engineering manager who allows the change and one designer who admits they were wrong" is more accurate.

 

[Tycho24]

2GB of RAM would be a nice touch.

Yup, it would be awesome if the iOS 9 update automatically gave any device 2gb of RAM.
Too bad that's impossible & your comment nonsensical.

 

[Ploki]

Remember that vibrate motor in basically every iPhone ever?

There's your haptic feedback.

He was talking about Force Touch.
Force touch is whats on the new MacBooks, its pressure sensitive touch.

You can't make that with software.

Haptic feedback is *related* since apple implemented it in their pressure sensitive touchpad.

So while haptic feedback - yes, pressure sensitivity - no.

 

[AppleScruff1]

Will the new iProbe be a simple implant procedure that can be performed easily under local anesthesia or will it require a full "knock out" to get the tint pin into the brain?

However, it we're talking wireless and wearing a patch a la seasickness variety, this may be worth the trip to the pharmacy, er Apple Store.

I'm thinking it will be an insertable probe and it will work in a variety of locations and come in different sizes depending on where it is worn.

 

[Tycho24]

Hello there, you have a good point, but the thing about titles is that we generally try to simultaneously keep them as succinct as possible while believing our audience will fill in the blanks on the information left out. Here, it's that anything with Force Touch and Haptic Feedback will be on a new piece of hardware, not a 6 or 6 Plus.

And if someone didn't understand that, the information is provided in the right context throughout the article.

Weak ass half apology!!!

It's cludgy and ill-written.

" iOS 9 to Feature support for Force Touch With Haptic Feedback"

Bold was only change needed.
Just admit it & change it. Easy, right?

 

[kdarling]

I'm very interested in Force Touch on the iPhone. It could really change how app UI's function. But adds another layer of work since it will be a while till most devices have the feature.

I hate Force Touch. Long touches too, for that matter, but Force is worse since it requires a deliberate harder push.

Both are hidden UI inputs that many people never find out about.

No it isn't. It's a motor with an asymmetrical weight attached to the shaft. That IS NOT haptics.

Of course it's haptics. Don't try to change a decades long definition.

Haptics can be done with all sorts of methods. Rotational motors were popular for a long time, now linear motors are popular.

Apple would NEVER retro-implement such a crude, clunky and half-hearted effort; haptics would require the 6S or newer. PERIOD.

Apple is a bit late using linear motors. Samsung started using linear motors for haptics with the Galaxy S3 years ago.

How many engineers does it take to get the shift key right?

No kidding. What is with Apple's refusal to change the case on the keys, like everyone else? I mean, is it some kind of weird Steve Jobs mandate because the original Apple II keyboard only supported uppercase or what?

 

[seatton]

I hope they will not bring those big ugly emojis on Apple Watch to iPhone.

 

[KdParker]

How about voice-less Siri? Many times in a meeting/waiting in line at Starbucks/etc. I want to ask Siri something but I feel stupid doing it out loud. Sure I could open Safari or an app and type it in, but that loses the point of having everything (like sports schedules) in one spot.

you have that already if you pull down the spot light search.

(except is will only show results from a BING search --yuk)

 

[nagromme]

I don't want Force Touch like the Apple Watch. That makes sense on a watch.

I want Force Touch like the new Apple trackpads. Where you don't just feel "something" but you feel as though there's a physical click under your fingertip.

That sounds VERY battery-hungry, though, so I fear I may have to wait...

 

[theluggage]

Remember that vibrate motor in basically every iPhone ever?
There's your haptic feedback.

Dunno what it is like in the Watch, but on the new MacBook & MacBook Pro, the 'Taptic' feedback is vastly more subtle and convincing than the short pulses on the wobulator you get on most current phones. When I tried the MBP in a shop it took a while for me to convince myself that it had the new trackpad and not the old-school one with a physical 'click' switch. I don't think you'll wring that sort of experience out of current hardware.

Second, the actual 'Force touch' feature on the MacBooks uses a strain gauge in the touch sensor, which current phones won't have. This gives two levels of click (and the haptics really make it feel as if pushing harder causes a second click switch to fire).

This could be a big deal for phones - but could also represent a big change in touch UIs. I'd much prefer a UI where you had to actually click, rather than tap, to trigger a button press. Finally, you could hand your phone to someone, or pick it up quickly, without triggering every function.

 

[NT1440]

I don't want Force Touch like the Apple Watch. That makes sense on a watch.

I want Force Touch like the new Apple trackpads. Where you don't just feel "something" but you feel as though there's a physical click under your fingertip.

That sounds VERY battery-hungry, though, so I fear I may have to wait...

Why would it be battery intensive?

 

[wizard]

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No kidding. What is with Apple's refusal to change the case on the keys, like everyone else? I mean, is it some kind of weird Steve Jobs mandate because the original Apple II keyboard only supported uppercase or what?

It does seem pretty stupid doesn't it. I'm sure there must be a reason but I can't imagine what it would be. On these high resolution screens it should be obvious which mode you are in.

 

[goobot]

I wish there was a read receipt option for only those that also have it on.

 

[MrXiro]

Force Touch Home button on the iPhone after the 6S! And that will lead to a even smaller bezel!

 

[kdarling]

It does seem pretty stupid doesn't it. I'm sure there must be a reason but I can't imagine what it would be. On these high resolution screens it should be obvious which mode you are in.

Perhaps there's some royalty that Apple doesn't want to pay, in order to swtich between upper/lower case key legends.

It's a real pain to explain to new iPad users (especially older ones) that you have to look at the shift key (and remember its colors that seem to change every version) to see what case you're in.

When showing off the first iPhone, Jobs made a big deal about how onscreen keyboards were better than physical ones, because the keys could change. It'd be great to see that happen with case.

 

[Laird Knox]

Wish to get support for non-english keyboards, as this is still unheard of for some idiotic reason. Want to type ö, ű, é, or other accented letters, or ç in French, etc? Well, it's not possible, sorry, no one cares about non-english speakers. How about 3rd party keyboards? They don't care either.

Yes, extra keys won't fit on the iPhone 4 or 5. But the new extra huge iPhones can fit extra keys without issues, not to mention all sizes of the iPad.

2008 called,

http://www.engadget.com/2008/04/27/iphone-101-typing-accented-characters/

 

[Keerock]

Title is hugely flawed (typical mr incompetence). The hardware implements force touch, this title implies this feature would be suddenly available to previous gen devices, through a mere update.

SORT YOUR JOURNALISM OUT!

There is a chance of backward compatibility for Force Touch. As you press harder, the average finger/thumb will spread a bit. Based on time length of touch and spread of the touch area, they may be able to "sense" a Force Touch on non-enabled screens. Probably unlikely though.

 

[JGIGS]

How about some real simple things like not auto arranging icons to the top of the screen, letting us change the notification sounds and vibrate patterns for third party apps. Really simple tweaks that would improve my experience that might keep me from going back to Android. Only problem with Android at them moment is finding hardware that I like. Especially camera quality wise.

 

[Michael Goff]

There is a chance of backward compatibility for Force Touch. As you press harder, the average finger/thumb will spread a bit. Based on time length of touch and spread of the touch area, they may be able to "sense" a Force Touch on non-enabled screens. Probably unlikely though.

No, this is a hardware thing. There's nothing to sense the varied pressure in current iPhones.

 

[ThisIsNotMe]

yes please! hope they nix stocks, newsstand, compass, voice memos, and tips while they're at it

Why on earth would Apple do that? Do you expect them to ship a device where the only application on it is settings and the app store?

The vast majority of people want out of the box functionality and are not neurotic over a few megabytes of space.

 

[baryon]

Umm, could you elaborate a bit? For after all, international keyboards have been available in iOS as long as I've had an iPhone (from the iPhone 3G) and when I have a Finnish keyboard selected, I do have our additional characters ä, ö, and å available on the main keyboard (as opposed to being hidden under a and o). Pardon me if I missed something, but to me it sounds like you could take a better look at your iPhone's settings.

Sounds like they got it right for the Finnish keyboard. That's what I mean, I'd like that for the Hungarian keyboard (which has about 10 extra letters beyond the 26 English ones) to have separate keys without having to go into the menu. Obviously this probably wouldn't fit onto the iPhone 4 or 5 screen, but the iPhone 6 and iPad have plenty of space for that. The problem is not just the accents, it's that if you type without them, auto-correct fails to work and you're basically writing something that's already missing accents, it's got typos, and auto-correct gives you a helping hand to completely change the words you're saying into something totally different.

2008 called,

http://www.engadget.com/2008/04/27/iphone-101-typing-accented-characters/

I mean not from the pop-up menu, but as actual individual keys just like A, B, C, etc... Try typing texts all day and having to access the pop up menu three times per word.

You're kidding me right? You just have to hold down the letter key to see the accented versions such as é, ö, and ú. Im doing this on ios right now.

Yeah like I'm going to do that every time I type an accented letter. Imagine if to type any vowel in English, you'd have to press and hold then select a letter from a pop up menu, it would be so inconvenient you would not do it. It slows you down about 300%. It's great for typing the odd foreign word, but not for typing in that language in general. So then you end up typing without the accents, and you can still figure out what the person what trying to type, however, auto-correct becomes useless because for iOS's auto-correct, "A" and "Á" are just as different as "A" and "Z", so you either have to disable auto-correct (which makes it difficult to type accurately) or you have to tap-hold-select-let-go every other letter, or you have to put up with auto correct correcting words like "dog" into things like "Mississippi" for no reason (and I'm not exaggerating that much).

What I meant was the actual letters as separate keys on the keyboard, if space permits, such as on the iPad or the ultra big iPhone 6. Currently typing in some non-English languages on iOS is an absolute joke.

 

[wlossw]

How about voice-less Siri? Many times in a meeting/waiting in line at Starbucks/etc. I want to ask Siri something but I feel stupid doing it out loud. Sure I could open Safari or an app and type it in, but that loses the point of having everything (like sports schedules) in one spot.

if you use a headset or headphones, Siri will playback through that...

 

[dannyyankou]

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[kwrzesien]

2GB of RAM would be a nice touch.

Yup, it would be awesome if the iOS 9 update automatically gave any device 2gb of RAM.
Too bad that's impossible & your comment nonsensical.

nVidia did it with compressed memory, it could be possible!