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19.7% of the market yet 93% of the profits. BAM!

Err, you being an Apple user presumably, you realise that the lower marketshare higher profit comes by price-gouging people like you who have sufficient disposable income not to care about the higher cost of the iPhone.
 
I do wish Microsoft was more competitive and had a larger share of the market, yet I do have a very comprehensive view and understanding of why they don't.

The reason I feel this way is because I'm a proponent of variety and choices. The more the better. Four competitors would be even better.

Having just two, should one become overwhelmed and suddenly the other begins taking over, we all lose.

Why do you feel the windows phone platform isn't doing that well? That's what we use and have cancelled our home phone as well. We have the ATT Go plan and it's working out awesomely. Sooooooo much cheaper than the extremely expensive iphone and Samsung phones and the required overpriced plans they shove you on.

The windows phone is just as slick as any of the others IF you are using it just as a phone. That means texting and calling are your main uses. Apps wise, yeah,it's lacking which probably explains the market share problem.

Personally I hate using phones for games or browsing or anything else. Screens are way too small and useless, IMO. Oh well.
 
Can someone tell me why Windows imagines itself having a chance? lol

Because the latest version of it's mobile operating system is actually really good.

The other thing to remember is that prior to iDevices Apple's market share in the computing world was ~3%. So I guess you could have said the same thing about them back then.
 
While it is obvious to most that world wide Android is dominating sales,there are other interesting statistics to be drawn from the data.
As we are given data for both Q4 2014 and 2014 as a whole we can see compare. If phones were sold even throughout the year it would be 25% of sales per quarter. Q4 is always the best for the iPhone, as it is when a new model is released each year. Most people know that a new iPhones is coming near the end of the year every year.This year people knew that the new iPhone would have a new case (it was not an S year) and that there would be bigger screens. All three system sold more than 25% of their yearly sales in Q4.

iOS 39%
Android 27%
Win 31%
 
The questions that i think will be answered this year include:

1. will apple Pay influence buying decisions
2. will the watch influence buying decision
3. will they sell smaller form factors (3.5 and 4 inch displays)

I think that if Apple Pay and Apple Watch influence phone purchases (I think Apple Pay certainly will) and if they sell cheaper and small form factors, I belive Apple could get to 300 million or higher within 2 years (probably not 2015, but doable for 2016).

Just my thoughts

Apple Watch is the reason why I don't want an iPhone. I hope Pebble hits it out the park and Android Wear comes to iOS. That Watch OS is a huge turn off and the starting price is ridiculous.
And I wish that Apple gave the regular 6 the optical image stabilization and 1080p display. For someone like me that wanted to get away from phablets they messed it up. I wanted a no compromise sub 5" phone.
Judging from Apple's "S" policy I will be sticking with Android until 2016 unless Apple shows me something off the charts this fall.
One last thing; don't gimp the iPad mini. That had to be the worst mistake Apple has made in over a year.
 
Apple Watch is the reason why I don't want an iPhone. I hope Pebble hits it out the park and Android Wear comes to iOS. That Watch OS is a huge turn off and the starting price is ridiculous.
And I wish that Apple gave the regular 6 the optical image stabilization and 1080p display. For someone like me that wanted to get away from phablets they messed it up. I wanted a no compromise sub 5" phone.
Judging from Apple's "S" policy I will be sticking with Android until 2016 unless Apple shows me something off the charts this fall.
One last thing; don't gimp the iPad mini. That had to be the worst mistake Apple has made in over a year.


The iPhone 6 is selling in record numbers. It looks like the vast majority wanted a larger iPhone.
 
And yet again we have the reality hit, that Android is crushing ALL competitors..

Yet no doubt people will go on about how much profit Apple makes. Still doesn't equal market share though.

If Apple actually reduced some prices to sensible levels they may actually increase the market share, but as it is Android has a much much bigger target audience I think.

Crushing how?

I'm just trying to figure out the result of these "Android Dominates" headlines.

Android has had "the most market share" for 5 years... so no news there.

But that's really not surprising when you've got 60+ manufacturers who are now shipping a billion Android smartphones a year.

Meanwhile... Apple has NEVER had a lot of smartphone market share... yet they do just fine.

So again... what is Android crushing?
 
While it is obvious to most that world wide Android is dominating sales,there are other interesting statistics to be drawn from the data.
As we are given data for both Q4 2014 and 2014 as a whole we can see compare. If phones were sold even throughout the year it would be 25% of sales per quarter. Q4 is always the best for the iPhone, as it is when a new model is released each year. Most people know that a new iPhones is coming near the end of the year every year.This year people knew that the new iPhone would have a new case (it was not an S year) and that there would be bigger screens. All three system sold more than 25% of their yearly sales in Q4.

iOS 39%
Android 27%
Win 31%

Apple only has one killer quarter each year and about this time is when sales start to taper off. But Android have multiple flagships hitting throughout the year. Just in the next few weeks you got Samsung and HTC releasing flagships followed by LG. And this is not including the Chinese flagships and budget models. And I'm only talking about the first half of the year.
So while Apple owns the 4th quarter everyone else owns the other 3.
To me it looks better if you spread out launches. I know the Apple Watch will do good because it's new but I wouldn't count on it on a yearly basis.
 
And that's what consumers care about, a company that makes a huge profit at their expense. I hope gas goes up to $5 a gallon too!

I would be happy if there is: upgradable gas, large screen gas?, high quality gas, gas ecosystems, but no, you can't use gas as an example.
 
And Apple bundles it's own crapware.

Remember when Apple stated that they were going to install iWork apps on higher capacity iPhones from the factory?

My 64 GB + luckily didn't have any of those installed and I don't want them installed. I have an iPad that I have numbers installed on and that is good enough there. I guess Apple backed down on that decision.
 
Apple only has one killer quarter each year and about this time is when sales start to taper off. But Android have multiple flagships hitting throughout the year. Just in the next few weeks you got Samsung and HTC releasing flagships followed by LG. And this is not including the Chinese flagships and budget models. And I'm only talking about the first half of the year.
So while Apple owns the 4th quarter everyone else owns the other 3.
To me it looks better if you spread out launches. I know the Apple Watch will do good because it's new but I wouldn't count on it on a yearly basis.

Apple does not have to sell new iPhone every quarter, but they can increase sales of other products. There are Macs and soon Watch. Probably devote each category on one quarter?
 
The iPhone 6 is selling in record numbers. It looks like the vast majority wanted a larger iPhone.

I thought that the smaller iPhone 6 outsells the 6 plus by a good margin? Not even the Note series outsells the Galaxy S and the Note is always the better phone minus the size.
I bet money that people would have had second thoughts for the plus if the iPhone 6 had a 1080p display and optical stabilization. That would have been the ultimate phone for me.
 
I thought that the smaller iPhone 6 outsells the 6 plus by a good margin? Not even the Note series outsells the Galaxy S and the Note is always the better phone minus the size.
I bet money that people would have had second thoughts for the plus if the iPhone 6 had a 1080p display and optical stabilization. That would have been the ultimate phone for me.

Sorry, I misunderstood your post. You want the OIS in the 4.7" phone, you weren't asking for the 4" model. And the smaller phone does outsell the 6+. I wonder how much of it is due to price too, not just it being too big.
 
True

But record profit everyquarter, large cash hoards, low percentage of those profits and revenues returned back to the company,

That has nothing to do with sustainability, that has to do with top level greed.

Apple would be just as succesfull right now if they made 10% profit margins or their 45% profit margins.

As long as your profits cover growth and maintenance, anything above and beyond is excess.

Saying this: You don't have to be #1, or #2, Or even #10 in an industry. if you are profitable, and can sustain operations on that profit, then all the power to you. If Blackberry is profitable, they have every right to exist in the market. Same with Windows. As a consumer, that is ALL you should care about. not how much record profit apple is pulling in each year as some sort of badge to prove their better

Maybe that's all the consumer should care about, but it's definitely not all the company or shareholders should care about.
 
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What was the income of the Android Corp in the 4th quarter of 2014? How much profit did they make? How about the handset makers who used their OS? Understand, if they open source it, that's fine. Oh, but you don't get the whole package unless...

What percentage of Android Corp phones are actually smartphones, running the latest version?

as an consumer, there's nothing more I want than for Apple to charge us more and more for every product they sold than anybody else out there. Heck, who cares if I personally pay more, as long as Apple gets it's profit up there....

waiiit a second!
 
Apple does not have to sell new iPhone every quarter, but they can increase sales of other products. There are Macs and soon Watch. Probably devote each category on one quarter?

Without the iPhone Apple would be done. It's like taking away Tom Brady or LeBron James from your team. You still have a team but we all know the outcome.
 
Hopefully your landlord raises your rent or your bank increases your mortgage interest rate so it can maintain sustainability. Ditto for your insurance company, power company, cable company, cell provider. And also your healthcare,and supermarket too. If we're going to brag about and support big profits, let's make it universal.

Sustainability means that both sides of the transaction are happy. If the customer isn't happy, he goes elsewhere. If the seller doesn't make a profit, he goes out of business. To borrow from your absurd example, if you landlord charged way too little... You would be happy, but not for very long. Because you would be looking for a new place to live once the bank repo's the property for nonpayment of the mortgage. If he charges way too much, he's happy, but again not for long. Because he'd have to try finding new renters after you move.
You can't act like you know what sustainability is if you don't even know that it requires both sides to be happy.
 
Am I the only one a little bit tired about this numbers ?

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Android has that big of a market share? everywhere I look I see iPhones now

For every iPhone you see, there are a dozen crappy cheap not-so-smartphones running Android.
 
That's not entirely true in Apple's case.

The iPhone has NEVER had a commanding amount of market share... yet its app ecosystem has always been successful.

It sounds weird... but the platform that can barely hit 20% market share gets more attention from developers than the platform with 75% market share.

In short... market share doesn't necessarily bring developers and their apps.

Yes, exactly. A lot has been written (by developers and others) that Android is a platform that is very hard to get money out its users. I won't bother to list any of the many reasons that have been given, because it will just incite craziness.
I think Apple as a company has always survived, despite low market share, because although their customer base was small, it was both very loyal and had money to spend.
 
Err, you being an Apple user presumably, you realise that the lower marketshare higher profit comes by price-gouging people like you who have sufficient disposable income not to care about the higher cost of the iPhone.

How is it "gouging"? No one is forced to buy an iPhone. And it doesn't cost any more than comparable Android phones such as the Samsung Galaxy or Note, or HTC One M8.
 
Err, you being an Apple user presumably, you realise that the lower marketshare higher profit comes by price-gouging people like you who have sufficient disposable income not to care about the higher cost of the iPhone.

You realise that price-gouging is impossible in a free market with an abundance of choices? People will pay whatever a product is worth to them. If Apple makes profits selling iPhones, that is because people value the product considerably more than it costs Apple to make it.
 
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