They're repeaters, not hubs. You can pick which is the main one.
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iOS and iPadOS 16.2 Betas Overhaul Home App Architecture With Improved Performance
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In theory? Yes. In reality? No. Not only does Matter not (yet) support the entire range of smart home products, but there are many existing products in people's homes that will never support Matter.
So 16.1 supposedly gives us matter but not really til 16.2? What a tease
same here I removed the two HomePod minis, I think it is due to a developer profile vs public profile
Considering how obvious this seems, the obvious conclusion is either:
a) Apple truly does not care. Or...
b) Apple knows a little bit more about packet routing and networking than you do, and has their own algorithm for determining which device should be promoted to primary and when.
I have updated my setup here I am running both Homebridge with about 10 devices and Scryted that has about 9 unifi cameras haven't seen any issues yet. Everything seems to feel a bit snappier and quicker for sure, probably just a placebo effect
.Thank you. It is a significant update so the fact that homebridge is not broken out of the box is a great sign.I have updated my setup here I am running both Homebridge with about 10 devices and Scryted that has about 9 unifi cameras haven't seen any issues yet. Everything seems to feel a bit snappier and quicker for sure, probably just a placebo effect
It’s unlikely as if it broke homebridge wouldnt it break other bridges too?
Can I now deactivate my OG HomePods as hubs so they can stop messing things up?
I was worried I was imagining this but I’m glad you’ve confirmed it.
My house lights are almost entirely controlled via motion sensors and do different things based on the time so this delay is becoming infuriating.
I have found that the hue products are the least reliable ones out of all my devices. For some reason they don’t always respond to their commands, and it is not because of homekit. For instance, I have four lights grouped together in my living room. I told him to turn on, and sometimes only three do or they don’t go to the correct brightness, but the same thing happens without using HomeKit. 🤷🏼♂️
I’m very excited for this and can’t wait to try it out.
Correct, but you can’t pick. In my instance I have a garage on the property that I converted to an office. Just enough signal from the main house can be picked up that the wifi settings within the HomePod at the converted office will sometimes choose the one from the main house even though it’s right next to the wireless router in the office. Therefore what happens is the default hub changes causing issues. It would be nice like you said to exclude and/or have the ability to pick the wifi network you want a hub to connect to in the Home app. Not just pull the device info from your iPhone during HomePod setups. Heck, even though I have an TV in the office and I have selected it to only connect to the office within the HomeKit settings within the TV, sometimes my daughter’s HomePod mini that’s I’d say is close to 100’ away will be selected as the default hub for the office. It’s maddening and I even have her HomePod mini blocked to join the office network and the HomePod in my office blocked in the main home’s Wi-Fi network. Apple Support, Tier 2, said the backend servers choose the hub at times.
The “matter accessories” screen that was in 16.1 beta is not in 16.1 final, although several announcements say it is. It is currently very hard to determine what, if anything, the matter support in my devices (atv, HomePod mini, phone, iPad) is doing.
Will this finally let you set and select which homekit device is the primary hub for your home?
So frustrating having an OG HomePod become the main connector and the performance suffering as a result.
In current state hub was only as strong as your weakest device. (Network access, wifi protocols etc.)
So frustrating having an OG HomePod become the main connector and the performance suffering as a result.
In current state hub was only as strong as your weakest device. (Network access, wifi protocols etc.)
You've never been able to select which hub is your main hub. If you're saying it IS possible, which goes against the many thousands of comments and threads devoted specifically to wishing to be able to do exactly this, please detail the process.
Because even if you trick it into using one certain hub as main by powering them on in a certain sequence, or some other some such trick, it changes from one to another at its own (often illogical) discretion eventually anyway.
This has been a point of pain for many many users for years, myself included.
Only if every manufacturer of every smart device ever made suddenly implements Matter. How likely do you think that will be? HomeBridge ain’t going anywhere.
Correct, but you can’t pick. In my instance I have a garage on the property that I converted to an office. Just enough signal from the main house can be picked up that the wifi settings within the HomePod at the converted office will sometimes choose the one from the main house even though it’s right next to the wireless router in the office. Therefore what happens is the default hub changes causing issues. It would be nice like you said to exclude and/or have the ability to pick the wifi network you want a hub to connect to in the Home app. Not just pull the device info from your iPhone during HomePod setups. Heck, even though I have an TV in the office and I have selected it to only connect to the office within the HomeKit settings within the TV, sometimes my daughter’s HomePod mini that’s I’d say is close to 100’ away will be selected as the default hub for the office. It’s maddening and I even have her HomePod mini blocked to join the office network and the HomePod in my office blocked in the main home’s Wi-Fi network. Apple Support, Tier 2, said the backend servers choose the hub at times.
I think you might be conflating the WiFi the HomePod is connecting to your internet on to its function as a HomeKit hub... Those are two separate things.
A HomePod only maintains settings for one WiFi network (SSID) at a time, it will always join that and only that WiFi network. If it can't join THAT network, it will not connect to any network. You can change it, using your iPhone, but then it will only join the new one, ever, unless you change it again.
As a home HUB, which is not related to WiFi, the software automatically determines which of your home's various hub capable devices is the main hub and which ones are standby. And it can and will vary from day to day. And often the one chosen isn't the one we might choose ourselves... (Like selecting a HomePod with mediocre WiFi signal over a wired AppleTV, for example.) But that that is the HUB function of the HomePod or AppleTV (or iPad, in the past). That is not the WiFi network the HomePod is connected to.
good, i literally can’t get my stereo minis to update to 16.1 still… please someone tell me i’m not the only one!
It was a beta. Likely a design change before the final release.
Truth is, no one knows (publicly) how the home app will present Matter certified devices versus HomeKit certified devices until a Matter certified accessory is publicly available.
The Home app does flag devices not HomeKit certified so maybe it will flag Matter devices in the accessory details too.
We’ll just have to wait and see.
No you can’t. They need to give us that option though.
Apple- "best we can do is some new voices for Siri." lol
You've been able to do that for years.
Set up your HomePod, HomePod mini, Apple TV, or iPad as a home hub - Apple Support
Set up a home hub to control your smart home accessories while you're away from home, share control of your accessories with others, and automate your accessories to do what you want, when you want.support.apple.com
Nope. Nowhere does it say that in your link because it has never been possible.