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Banks, and I seriously doubt it -- it seems to be just a normal reaction by iOS developers.


I absolutely hate web access with a passion, they are pale imitations of an iOS app at best for my U.S. banks, and at worst, they have more connection problems than apps do. The best of all would be a MacOS app, but that isn't happening either.
Does your bank have a windows application?
 
Does your bank have a windows application?
I actually don't know, I never looked for one, for either of my banks. I know they have both iOS and Android versions.

I have to use a browser app at work for commercial purposes on one of the banks, and that actually does work better than their consumer based app. (until it doesn't, which happens)

For home, I rarely use any banking apps on my computers, but I do use my iPhone.

And back to the thread, nobody ever said I could use my iOS app on Windows...
 
The most important is

1. developer will run away is not profitable .
2. iOS market is very 2 small compare android
3. MacOs market is just mere 10 to 20 percent . Too risky . Introduction of m1 arm make developer more delay the output unless big company.
4. Development cost is high
Well I left Android for the iPad because the iPad had much better higher quality of apps to choose from.

It may have changed in the past 5 years but when I used android the apps seemed really cheap.Where app developers made better higher quality of apps for the iPad.

If you work is really different and you only need really simple work you may be able to get by using android.

Other thing I did not like about Android is it is really google and Microsoft oriented.

And if you into Google and Microsoft ecosystem you will feel more at home. But with the the iPad it is more Apple and third party.

Well in the US not many people use Android so developers do not spend the time building good quality of apps. Out side the US Android is some thing poor people buy because it is cheap and don’t like spending money like Americans. So developers will not spend the time building good quality app.

The android app feel really low quality and not many apps to choose from. A lot of the apps even feel spam and ad like the apps than medium quality app that alone higher quality app.

Well may be Android has gotten better now than 5 years ago but was not good experience for me.
 
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The most important is

1. developer will run away is not profitable .
2. iOS market is very 2 small compare android
3. MacOs market is just mere 10 to 20 percent . Too risky . Introduction of m1 arm make developer more delay the output unless big company.
4. Development cost is high
What?

iOS's revenue is way higher than Android. I have no idea what you are talking about. iOS market is way bigger than you think.
 
But I can't run the ones I want to run.

Good, maybe they're de-emphasizing it already. I saw it in the November keynote and ordered it in part for that reason. I also wanted to see how it did at running Windows in a VM as in the keynote as well, and I was disappointed on both counts, so forgive me if I sound a bit grumpy. I've said I'm going to buy an upgrade from my M1 MBA, and I probably will, but I'll have WAY different expectations in what I'll want it to do.

I really hate being lied to, but live and learn.

And to answer any question about my thinking having any influence on the Mac or Apple, definitely not, I'm just venting...
Really? You think developers can write code for a device that does not use mouse and keyboard but uses a touchscreen and make it work well on a device that uses a mouse, keyboard and is not touch user friendly. And port it over and it would work and people will be happy.

That me know when operating system maker can solve this major problem because Microsoft will pay you millions of dollars.

Microsoft tried pushing one UI with windows 8 and it failed and tried with windows 10 and it failed and I'm sure they will fail with windows 11.

The only way Steve Jobs said was the best and so far worked the best is two modes. You got a touch device you get touch OS and touch app made for it touch interface and you got a mouse and keyboard you get OS and app made for it.

And with is being outcome it is very simple doing the math that most developers will not code a app for iOS and MacOS if they don’t see reason for it.

And unless Apple gives big incentive to programmers to make lots of money you are going to get this hit and miss experience. Where some developers will make good quality app for both and some developers will not bother and make only one.
 
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What?

iOS's revenue is way higher than Android. I have no idea what you are talking about. iOS market is way bigger than you think.
thats most for big boys gaming like epic , netmarble and so on. If you try non gaming not much as it . Customization apps base on factory /company exist but not much because cost too much and most end user using android .
 
thats most for big boys gaming like epic , netmarble and so on. If you try non gaming not much as it . Customization apps base on factory /company exist but not much because cost too much and most end user using android .
Did you even read? Even non gaming apps revenue for iOS is still higher than Android. 24.7 billion vs 6.7 billion. You said iOS market is very too small than Andorid and yet the link that I provided proves you wrong. iOS market is just superior.
 
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Did you even read? Even non gaming apps revenue for iOS is still higher than Android. 24.7 billion vs 6.7 billion. You said iOS market is very too small than Andorid and yet the link that I provided proves you wrong. iOS market is just superior.
Did you ever understand, apps development doesn't mean only gaming or mobile development . Most are focus on custom development. Not much company can invest on those platform unless profit is justify .
 
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Did you ever understand, apps development doesn't mean only gaming or mobile development . Most are focus on custom development. Not much company can invest on those platform unless profit is justify .
I do understand and yet you still not able to provide any evidence for your theory. Also, we are talking about mobile development so what's the point?
 
I do understand and yet you still not able to provide any evidence for your theory. Also, we are talking about mobile development so what's the point?
For us here , market mobile development more focus on integration iot(internet of thing) system. The point for developer is a bit diff depend on business segment.

Android - you don't need license to deploy to any user
iOS - you need to paid Apple Enterprise License which cost 399 dollar per year and don't forget the hardware and man power cost .

If i had big money to splur like epic, netmarble, mihoyo or other for sure a lot of will invest within in app purchase. I do respect the timeline developer this gaming developer. It's fast literation and debugging and dam hard.
 
For us here , market mobile development more focus on integration iot(internet of thing) system. The point for developer is a bit diff depend on business segment.

Android - you don't need license to deploy to any user
iOS - you need to paid Apple Enterprise License which cost 399 dollar per year and don't forget the hardware and man power cost .

If i had big money to splur like epic, netmarble, mihoyo or other for sure a lot of will invest within in app purchase. I do respect the timeline developer this gaming developer. It's fast literation and debugging and dam hard.
Still no proofs and links?
 
Still no proofs and links?
lo.. i'm a developer why need proof or link? the problem is one thing.. keep more cheaper product apple then the market will move to m1 also. If not , holding to something not marginal for business is no point even me for publish in m1 platform.
 
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lo.. i'm a developer why need proof or link? the problem is one thing.. keep more cheaper product apple then the market will move to m1 also. If not , holding to something not marginal for business is no point even me for publish in m1 platform.
Being developer does not prove anything about the market size.
 
Being developer does not prove anything about the market size.
being a developer mean , how much apps will be publish to entertain people like you. Do remind , developer have no obligation to support m1 platform . For us, we just build apps what's client need only and request, support phone and ipad enough since a very rare people using apple , some more m1.
 
being a developer mean , how much apps will be publish to entertain people like you. Do remind , developer have no obligation to support m1 platform . For us, we just build apps what's client need only and request, support phone and ipad enough since a very rare people using apple , some more m1.
You are not even a Statistical researcher. How do you even know wether the market size small or not? At this point, you are not convincing at all.
 
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