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iOS6 is probably the most underwhelming release of iOS to date
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Congratulations on finding a phone that makes your life complete. Why are you so insistent that everyone else has to agree with you?
I have to wonder how shallow a person has to be to derive fulfillment from belittling those that hold a different opinion.
This isn't a matter of opinion. iOS6 literally has the worst set of tentpole features out of all the other big iOS versions that came before it. Honestly, turn by turn directions are great to have but that's literally the only big thing this time around and it's not something they did first. Everything else was either catch up or things that Apple is PURPOSELY delaying to give people 2 or 3 upgrades instead of one.
Nobody should accept Facetime over 3G or Mail/Safari "enhancements" AKA things that should have been there in the first place as a Tentpole feature, but Apple users do, because they're LYING to themselves over what should satisfy them.
If only Macrumors was an exact microcosm of the rest of the computer buying public.
Sadly...we're all geeks and what we want or even think is cool often isn't all that important to other people. Though at least this forum gives us an ability to exchange ideas but we should never forget that we are not the general consumer the way we approach technology.
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You can't expect EVERY update to have major new functionality. Sometimes you have to polish the stuff you started in the last version and kill the stuff that didn't work.
One the the things that I find interesting about your posts Calidude is that you seem to have a hard time separating what's important to you from what may be important to others.
You've sprinkled "literally" a couple times in your post but it's your opinion and that makes it hard to be literal when we all have our own definitions of what features are important or non-important
That's what makes this SO DAMN SAD.
We're supposed to be the high level geeks who have the strictest standards out of all the userbase, and yet we STILL have a majority of people that LIE to themselves as to what makes a satisfactory featureset in a major OS revision.
We're supposed to have the Sherlock Holmes magnifying glass, and we're still being suckered into accepting outmoded software as being a good standard, and due to some kind of religious worship of Apple, we love them for pushing out something that lacks features that a Symbian phone from 2005 had.
Seriously guys, wake up. Wake the hell up. This is just ridiculous.
I have yet to meet an actual iPhone user among my family, friends, acquaintances, and coworkers who has complained about the UI being a 'wall of Apps'. I've only ever heard that complaint on Apple oriented forums. I think Apple is more concerned with what the average user wants to buy than what the denizens of MacRumors want to buy.
Almost everyone I know with an iPhone is bored of the same thing over and over and over...
Haha nice. These guys always talk about Apple's sales being proof that its the best product but if you show them Android's sales...somehow sales figures don't matter anymore and Android is a piece of crap no matter what anybody says.
If it wasn't for Apple and the original iPhone in 2007, there would be no Android for you Fandroids or any of these other touch mobile devices we see everywhere these days. Thanks to Apple, they raised the bar for everyone else. I can bet you if it wasn't for them, we would still be using Sonyericsson's, Motorolas, Nokias, etc. Apple went from being almost bankrupt to the world's top leading technology company. In my mind if that doesn't say anything to you, then I don't know what else would. You need to look at the bigger picture and not focus on small things.
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I'm not, and so is everyone else I know. It's called consistency, something that other manufacturer's lack and don't seem to understand.
There's a difference between consistency and stagnation. I love Apple, but that doesn't mean I blindly follow them around.
Android users completely understand this and are thankful for that initial innovation. Apple did something different and that was great. That was 5 years ago though. You can't keep going back to that accomplishment now since Apple changed the paradigm and there's no going back.
However, now that things are different, we can't just keep giving Apple a pass for changing the game. If somebody plays that game better years afterward, is that just meaningless since Apple was the inventor of that game?
Speak for yourself, most android users I know are very ignorant and have no idea about that whatsoever. All they like to do is bash on Apple about the most ridiculous things. I hate windows vs os x, android vs iphone wars as much as the next guy. Use what pleases you, because everyone likes different things. I however, have been an iPhone/iPad user ever since the 1st generation model came out and love pretty much everything about it. There are some things I don't like, but that's just me being picky. But overall experience with it has been great to me.
Why does the home screen need to change? It's what the orginal iPhone was known for. Everyone out there who has one is accustomed to it and knows how to operate it. It's become iconic. Why change it and confuse people? That's what I meant about being consistent. IMO there's nothing wrong with the "wall of apps" home screen. It works well that I've seen so many other manufacturer's rip it off. It's simple and natural to use. Anyone can pick it up and start using the device without having to consult to endless pages of instructions. That's one thing I admire about Apple products. They keep things simple. The iPhone was my first mobile device that I could actually pick up and use right away without having to resort to the manual. I have been a tech gadget and have been collecting mobile phones for many years before the 1st iPhone was released. Nokias, Motorolas, Sonyericcson's, you name it, most likely I had it. The iPhone made me realize what a great product and wonderful UI it really is.
I can respect anybody like yourself who can admit faults but say they like the experience overall, but its the people who say everything Apple does is great who probably slow things down for every iOS user by not being objectively critical and giving criticism where criticism is due so that Apple will meet consumer demand.
I've been using iOS 6 for a little while now and I'm still very pleased with it. It's improved everything substantially. It's a refinement, and a good one at that.
Though I expect to see NC widgets introduced at a later date, where you can browse a widget store and download widgets for your NC.
Though I expect to see NC widgets introduced at a later date, where you can browse a widget store and download widgets for your NC.
Because it's annoying when it takes 30 seconds to turn bluetooth on/off, switch Wi-Fi networks, disable/enable 3G, go into airplane mode, etc. Because it would be nice to have a widget that I can glance at showing me when my next appointment is when I'm rushing through town. These are just a couple reasons why having widgets, or at least the option for them, would be great.
I understand where you're coming from but simple is not always best. Remember the days of iOS without Copy and paste? Without MMS? Things evolve; features grow. There is no reason why the iPhone shouldn't have widgets. The wall of apps home screen is just boring now. And I do agree with you that consumers do want familiarity, however consumers also want new features. Every-year when the next version of iOS is announced or the new iPhone is announced, there is always a huge outcry about the fact that Apple is only making minor, incremental changes, and nothing significantly different.
In 2007 the wall of apps home screen and all of the features were truly revolutionary. But it's 2012 now, it's time for things to change. Sure, when the first text-based user interfaces came out everything seemed great, why change? Then the graphical user interface arrived. And then year as Mac OS evolved, so did its feature set and look, though maintaining a certain amount of familiarity, of course. Just because "it works" in its current iteration doesn't mean it can't be further refined and built upon.
This is EXACTLY why I left my Iphone4. I was just underwhelmed with these "new" OS updates. They always lacked something, they never were innovated, and they're always "new" features that Android had been running for years. Now they are forcing you to use a mapping system inferior to google's because they're more focused on banning google they forget they still have some innovating to do to really beat google.
Needless to say I left iphone after buy the Iphone 3g, 3gs, and 4 and went to Android. I could not be any happier. When I use an iphone now it feels like a damn toy compared to what Androids do.
I'd like to come back to iphone, but i won't do it until they actually push the limits of technology like Android does.
Needless to say I left iphone after buy the Iphone 3g, 3gs, and 4 and went to Android. I could not be any happier. When I use an iphone now it feels like a damn toy compared to what Androids do.
I'd like to come back to iphone, but i won't do it until they actually push the limits of technology like Android does.
iOS is way ahead of OS X in terms of innovation. I'm tired of the "Finder" paradigm.
I rather have iOS incrementally evolve instead of being completely made over. It's by far the most successful portable operating system.
I don't want something to change just for the sake of change. Change has to be a response to a problem, like the new MacBook Pro. The changes on that laptop were not cosmetic in nature. They all stemmed from usability and engineering.
If Apple finds a way to make iOS better, they will. Don't just make it different.
I rather have iOS incrementally evolve instead of being completely made over. It's by far the most successful portable operating system.
I don't want something to change just for the sake of change. Change has to be a response to a problem, like the new MacBook Pro. The changes on that laptop were not cosmetic in nature. They all stemmed from usability and engineering.
If Apple finds a way to make iOS better, they will. Don't just make it different.
This is the type of thinking that allows competitors to past you up. You spoke of paradigms and apple is stuck in one right now. I think it's pretty well documented and there's plenty of examples of companies losing because they are stuck in their paradigms.
Sure, they can get passed up if someone came up with a paradigm that rivals iOS'.
Android, Metro, and Kindle (to a lesser extent) are all differing ways of doing tablets.
Can you think of a new paradigm without losing the functionality that have made it successful?
The new paradigm is Siri. And with every iteration of Siri, it will bring us closer to something like what Tony Stark used in Iron Man.
I like the direction they are taking.
The competition is way behind. They don't even have "retina" quality displays and it's been on the iPhone for how long now?
This line is leading to a slippery slope. Tread lightly. Ex. How long has Android has voice commands? Turn-by-turn navigation? 4G speeds (though carrier dependent)? Multitasking (same with webOS)? Please note I own both an iPhone and a Galaxy Nexus and love different aspects about each as neither OS is perfect.
I'm sorry but the competition has passed Apple in terms of innovation. when was the last time apple came out with a feature that wasn't already done on Android 1 or 2 years prior to that?
Well I am denying it because I think its a great upgrade.
Why don't you try and come up with a million new features and implement it with a very small team of programmers in a short amount of time and see how well you fare.
Do you really think Android's OS is more intuitive and functional than iOS? Apple's innovation is more in refinement and making it work well. Is Android's version of Siri as useful and reliable? Are Android's phones as robust in quality and do they have "retina" sharp displays?
There are many innovations in the new MacBook, like the cooling system, that are hidden but very forward thinking and creative.
If you ask me about Mac OS X, I think the "Finder" paradigm should be replaced with something even more iOS like. Windows-like interface is long in the tooth.