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iOS7: Struggling to see the point.

Tammster said:
I've read these boards after every update and they're always the "worst" update. Then over time some of the bugs are fixed; others are not.

As I responded to someone else earlier, I've not heard ONE SINGLE PERSON say that they did not like the update. Yes there are issues, but... come on... there ALWAYS are.

Saying that iOS 7 "doesn't work" is really an insane exaggeration. Might some things not work ideally? Yes, just like normal after a new update. It always happens. You can bet that the prior updates that you havent been vocal about have completely freaked out other people. It's how it goes.
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I've only talked to 3 or 4 people that actually like the update. Most I've talked with at work despise it upwards of 20 or so people. The ones that like it really like it. The ones that hate it really hate it. I have yet to talk to anyone that feels meh or somewhere in the middle about it. It's mostly love it or hate it. The majority from my perspective is "hate it".

But when you can list 20 or more things that don't work or only work intermittently. Then I do consider this as not working. Random reboots are more Microsoft level of quality. Not the Apple standard. Playing Music from an iDevice should not cause a physical memory dump and reboot it. If I can receive an iMessage than I should be able to send them. It's obviously talking to the iMessage server. It's not like iMessages are a new service, server capacity should be fine at this point. I've already listed other broken items so I'm not going through that again. But take the blinders off, iOS 7 was rushed to meet a deadline and :apple: released a shoddy product.
 
Mabus51 said:
But when you can list 20 or more things that don't work or only work intermittently. Then I do consider this as not working. Random reboots are more Microsoft level of quality. Not the Apple standard. Playing Music from an iDevice should not cause a physical memory dump and reboot it. If I can receive an iMessage than I should be able to send them. It's obviously talking to the iMessage server. It's not like iMessages are a new service, server capacity should be fine at this point. I've already listed other broken items so I'm not going through that again. But take the blinders off, iOS 7 was rushed to meet a deadline and :apple: released a shoddy product.
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Based on this criteria I would say that no operating system since the first computer has worked... and I'm not being sarcastic. I'm ABSOLUTELY POSITIVE that I can go back and read these boards after every single ios release and find at LEAST 20 different complaints. I'd bet it's more like 30.

Everything you've said so far, other than the specific examples of issues, has been repeated time and time again after every release. YOUR own personal experience this time may vary. Personally, I had many more issues with prior releases (and a lot of those issues were resolved in incremental updates).
 
Mabus51 said:
Doesn't the OS have to work in order to learn it? :confused:

The Music app is broken, playlists at times play random music from other lists. iTunes Radio locks up the app and sometimes causes the phone to reboot. Opening the music app sometimes causes the phone to reboot.

AirDrop does not work 100% of the time. Getting it to work is really hit & miss.

Color scheme ripped from Windows 8, which very few actually like the Babies R Us theme. Part of the problem is it tends to give a fuzzy/blurry look to the entire device. For light sensitive people it just causes migraines.

Safari crashes or doesn't always load video

Music videos don't play fullscreen.

Keyboard is inconsistant most of the time it just picks the letter next to the one you typed. Or if it's on a white screen the grey is to light and bleeds into the white making it difficult to see.

Battery life is Droid level anyone with a variant of the 5 model needs to carry a charger.

iMessages only work for 50% of the people.

Sounds are inconsistent and don't always play on the notification center.

Music controls on lock screen move with the screen and unlock the device unintentionally.

No unlock sounds for the blind using voice over commands.

Mail app crashes often.
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wow are you sure you're not still running beta 1 lol!! I haven't had any of these issues. you should restore your phone or smash it against a wall or something.
 
darngooddesign said:
In the UK, that is how you spell Center. Admittedly Apple has assigned a specific spelling to the word, but its for someone in the UK to reflexively spell it that way.
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Haha! A slip of the keyboard. Not my fault you American's (and Apple) can't spell :p

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darngooddesign said:
I was incorrect when I said that. Control Center is officially called Control Centre in the UK.
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So Apple can spell, but only in the UK :D
 
Tammster said:
Based on this criteria I would say that no operating system since the first computer has worked...
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The difference with iOS 7, it seems to me at least, is that it simply doesn't provide sufficient usable improvements in functionality to compensate for the frustration/hassle of dealing with its (numerous) bugs, and documented performance costs, to say nothing of the learning curve.

The iOS I had on my devices just worked. I could get on a transatlantic flight, pretty certain I'd have enough juice to get me to my destination. Now using the exact same piece of hardware I have to spend several minutes turning off half a dozen different functionalities to make sure I don't run out. Thats not, IMHO, progress.

If you - or anyone else - could point to some fantastic new feature that iOS 7 had that somehow made this all worth it, maybe I'll start to change my mind.

Previous iOS upgrades gave us, for example, AirPlay video mirroring, wireless printing, reasonable multi-tasking, and Siri. What does iOS 7 give us, apart from the (mostly nonfunctional) AirDrop?

IMHO iOS 7 seems mostly a "fashion" upgrade, one that allowed Jonny Ive to put his aesthetic stamp on the software. Count me less than impressed with the results.
 
vrDrew said:
The difference with iOS 7, it seems to me at least, is that it simply doesn't provide sufficient usable improvements in functionality to compensate for the frustration/hassle of dealing with its (numerous) bugs, and documented performance costs, to say nothing of the learning curve.

The iOS I had on my devices just worked. I could get on a transatlantic flight, pretty certain I'd have enough juice to get me to my destination. Now using the exact same piece of hardware I have to spend several minutes turning off half a dozen different functionalities to make sure I don't run out. Thats not, IMHO, progress.

If you - or anyone else - could point to some fantastic new feature that iOS 7 had that somehow made this all worth it, maybe I'll start to change my mind.

Previous iOS upgrades gave us, for example, AirPlay video mirroring, wireless printing, reasonable multi-tasking, and Siri. What does iOS 7 give us, apart from the (mostly nonfunctional) AirDrop?

IMHO iOS 7 seems mostly a "fashion" upgrade, one that allowed Jonny Ive to put his aesthetic stamp on the software. Count me less than impressed with the results.
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Wow, REALLY? There aren't enough posts on here that discuss the very impressive number of new features & updates? Sigh. :confused:

Do me a favor & google "ios 7 comprehensive features list" and read a few. In fact, I'm still learning new ones that excite me (didnt know about the new time stamp in messages until the other day).

Mine "just works". Your complaint's, as I've said, are WITHOUT A DOUBT the same complaints as I've seen after every single update. Battery life... yeah, no one has ever complained about that after a new update. Geez. Definitely the first update with bugs, right? Do you really claim the other updates didn't cause these same controversies?

Face it, some people embrace change and others will resist it to the very end. This is a fact that can't be disputed... and after reading these boards it's very clearly a big reason (although not the only reason) for the "frustration/hassle" that people are complaining about because this happens to be a pretty big update.
 
Mail sucks as it opens in my primary inbox.
Control center sucks as it pops up when I scroll up safari screen
 
vrDrew said:
The difference with iOS 7, it seems to me at least, is that it simply doesn't provide sufficient usable improvements in functionality to compensate for the frustration/hassle of dealing with its (numerous) bugs, and documented performance costs, to say nothing of the learning curve.

The iOS I had on my devices just worked. I could get on a transatlantic flight, pretty certain I'd have enough juice to get me to my destination. Now using the exact same piece of hardware I have to spend several minutes turning off half a dozen different functionalities to make sure I don't run out. Thats not, IMHO, progress.

If you - or anyone else - could point to some fantastic new feature that iOS 7 had that somehow made this all worth it, maybe I'll start to change my mind.

Previous iOS upgrades gave us, for example, AirPlay video mirroring, wireless printing, reasonable multi-tasking, and Siri. What does iOS 7 give us, apart from the (mostly nonfunctional) AirDrop?

IMHO iOS 7 seems mostly a "fashion" upgrade, one that allowed Jonny Ive to put his aesthetic stamp on the software. Count me less than impressed with the results.
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No battery problems here.

iOS 7 gave us control center, iTunes Radio, Facetime audio, and activation. Of course they completely redesigned many of the core apps, made multitasking better, went 64 bit, improved Siri etc.
 
edhchoe said:
Mail sucks as it opens in my primary inbox.
Control center sucks as it pops up when I scroll up safari screen
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Yeah, you're right. The whole new incredibly convenient feature SUCKS because you aren't swiping correctly. I admit I did that ONCE. Then I learned my lesson.
 
Tammster said:
Yeah, you're right. The whole new incredibly convenient feature SUCKS because you aren't swiping correctly. I admit I did that ONCE. Then I learned my lesson.
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Easy prevention of that would be making control center a two step swipe to differentiate it. But apple dropped the ball.
 
edhchoe said:
Easy prevention of that would be making control center a two step swipe to differentiate it. But apple dropped the ball.
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Then other people would complain about that, especially on the phone. They dont use multi-finger gestures for a reason (unlike the ipad). I think it's because a phone is used one handed more often than not. I love being able to open the CP with my thumb.
 
No kidding. I'll admit battery life has gone down for me, but the OS is much more attractive and feels better in general. It's still basically the same OS, but it has a bounce/pep in its steps.
 
edhchoe said:
Mail sucks as it opens in my primary inbox.
Control center sucks as it pops up when I scroll up safari screen
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you scroll safari from the bottom edge of the screen? the natural scroll position is the middle of the screen since the bottom isn't too comfortable to reach with one hand.
 
Mocking and/or sarcastic responses to the (IMHO) legitimate complaints I've raised don't impress me much.

I'm a huge Apple fan, and have been since the early 1980s. But if iOS 7 is an indication of Apple's future, I'm going to have a whole lot of reconsidering to do.

It stinks.

And time-stamped messages and Afghanistan restaurant reviews aren't going to change my mind about this metaphysical truth.
 
vrDrew said:
Mocking and/or sarcastic responses to the (IMHO) legitimate complaints I've raised don't impress me much.

I'm a huge Apple fan, and have been since the early 1980s. But if iOS 7 is an indication of Apple's future, I'm going to have a whole lot of reconsidering to do.

It stinks.

And time-stamped messages and Afghanistan restaurant reviews aren't going to change my mind about this metaphysical truth.
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So legitimate answers to your complaints aren't valid? Get out of here, obviously it's not meant for you..
 
vrDrew said:
The iOS I had on my devices just worked. I could get on a transatlantic flight, pretty certain I'd have enough juice to get me to my destination. Now using the exact same piece of hardware I have to spend several minutes turning off half a dozen different functionalities to make sure I don't run out. Thats not, IMHO, progress.
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This is why I'm still on iOS 6. iOS 7 is still unpolished, and I'm not willing to sacrifice battery life and stability for the new interface.

I agree with the sentiment some have expressed, that iOS 7 was rushed in order to meet the launch deadline for the iPhone 5S and 5C.
 
I searched on eBay for used iphone 5 for verizon with iOS 6 and the only results are from a resaler in New York. :confused:
Everyone with iphone 5 upgraded to iOS 7??
 
edhchoe said:
I searched on eBay for used iphone 5 for verizon with iOS 6 and the only results are from a resaler in New York. :confused:
Everyone with iphone 5 upgraded to iOS 7??
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There are plenty of iPhone 5's on EBay which still have 6.14 or earlier installed. Most of the sellers just don't bother to disclose the iOS installed. Just contact the given seller and ask.
 
The point was to cave into idiotic people on the internet would wanted change for no reason.
 
musicjunky said:
No kidding. I'll admit battery life has gone down for me, but the OS is much more attractive and feels better in general. It's still basically the same OS, but it has a bounce/pep in its steps.
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The more I use, the more I like it. The flatter design is so much nicer than that ****** linen crap I can't even begin to say.
 
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