iPad 2 and iPhone 5 to Sport a Dual-Core GPU?

[gatortpk]

Yes, did seem impossibly high

Dual-core CPU and GPU with a 2048x1536 resolution (above 1080p)?

Color me skeptical- but that said, I think it's time to put the iPad on craigslist. I didn't believe the 960x640 iPhone rumors either; figured that resolution was impossibly high.

The 960x640 was impressive, especially for a 3.5" screen. Now a 2048x1536 screen would still fit the 4:3 shape and it would support true 2K movies (2048x1080) as well as 1920x1080. The 1536 lines is so large that even my 27" iMac doesn't have that, it's only 1440p! Only the 30" monitors that have 2560x1600 can beat that vertical resolution, and only by 64 lines!

If this turns out to be true, then I was so right not to get the first iPad, even though at the time I only had a 1024x768 12" PowerBook G4 that could no longer play video very well (with Leopard slowing everything down). I wanted something that could play video, but still waited, and then got a 4 year old Intel MacBook Pro (Core 2 Duo) and a Quad Core i7 27" iMac since then anyway. So I have no trouble watching video anymore.

But with the new iPad, if true with new resolutions, I can enjoy full 1080p HD video (or even 2K 2048x1080) video with plenty of horizontal lines for other content. (456 extra lines for 1080p video)

I remember posting a long time ago that a 2560x1920 (still 4:3 shape) would happen to be the same pixel density as the iPhone 4, at 9.7". Enough to show two full 1920x1080p video top to bottom with 400 extra lines to play with. That would be impressive, and 2048x1536 sure comes close (over half at 64% as much resolution, and 3.1 MegaPixels)! Amazing!

 

[gatortpk]

iPhone 5 and iPad 3 has still much more to improve on!

Me too, not all these rumors can be true. It's interesting to read about it but curb your enthusiasm until they are proved at the presentation. One thing is a constant on the presentations and that is there is always less than what was rumored. As for what would be in an iPad3 to make it worth getting-- how bout 3D?

Forget 3D, and the retina displays are hardly needed to be upgraded (Just increased color range, and contrast ratio, as well as reflective displays instead of just backlighting). New battery technology, sensors, and multicore chips.

Remember, if flash memory keeps doubling every year, then we'll have a 1TB iPhone in summer of 2014, just three summers away! (128GB this summer, 256GB in 2012, 512GB in 2013, etc. I know Apple skipped 64GB in the iPhone 4, but single 64GB and 128GB flash chips are available now.)

And, yes, there would be a use for 1TB in a phone, high quality 1080p or 2160p video recording would be easy then, and that would fill a Terabyte in a reasonable time.

 

[Trius]

The only way such an ipad could ever be sold would be at double the price it is now. It all sounds great...but this high of resolution and the kind of internal upgrades it will require would make it impossible to keep the ipad at its current price point.

I love how you're so sure about this. "OMG IT CANT BE DONE!!!"
lol... Apple does this EVERY YEAR, products get better, prices stay competitive. This year is no different...

 

[bobob]

Remember, if flash memory keeps doubling every year, then we'll have a 1TB iPhone in summer of 2014, just three summers away! (128GB this summer, 256GB in 2012, 512GB in 2013, etc. I know Apple skipped 64GB in the iPhone 4, but single 64GB and 128GB flash chips are available now.)

Apple skipped 64GB in the iP4 because the cost was prohibitive. I would guess that that same reason will apply for two or three of the coming iterations too. So I wouldn't expect the iPhone to have 1 TB of flash memory until 2016 or 2017.

 

[k995]

The 960x640 was impressive, especially for a 3.5" screen. Now a 2048x1536 screen would still fit the 4:3 shape and it would support true 2K movies (2048x1080) as well as 1920x1080. The 1536 lines is so large that even my 27" iMac doesn't have that, it's only 1440p! Only the 30" monitors that have 2560x1600 can beat that vertical resolution, and only by 64 lines!

If this turns out to be true, then I was so right not to get the first iPad, even though at the time I only had a 1024x768 12" PowerBook G4 that could no longer play video very well (with Leopard slowing everything down). I wanted something that could play video, but still waited, and then got a 4 year old Intel MacBook Pro (Core 2 Duo) and a Quad Core i7 27" iMac since then anyway. So I have no trouble watching video anymore.

But with the new iPad, if true with new resolutions, I can enjoy full 1080p HD video (or even 2K 2048x1080) video with plenty of horizontal lines for other content. (456 extra lines for 1080p video)

I remember posting a long time ago that a 2560x1920 (still 4:3 shape) would happen to be the same pixel density as the iPhone 4, at 9.7". Enough to show two full 1920x1080p video top to bottom with 400 extra lines to play with. That would be impressive, and 2048x1536 sure comes close (over half at 64% as much resolution, and 3.1 MegaPixels)! Amazing!

You are forgetting 1 thing.

The bitrate for a FULL HD movie would be quit high. 16GB would perhaps give you enough room to 2 maybe 3 movies. 32 GB 4-6 movies 64 GB 8-12 movies.

2048*xxxx would be even higher bitrate. And lets not forget itunes isnt offering any 1080p or higher movies.

 

[Krafty]

I know this has been asked before, but I feel like pissing in someones corn flakes today: Will it run Crysis in ULTRA SUPER MEGA mode?

 

[Blakjack]

Something tells me that either the entry level price will rise by $100, or that they are keeping the iPad 1 around for $499 (or maybe $449), similar to the iPhone 3GS.

If these spec rumours are true, then why would anyone buy a mac book air. They're cannibalizing their own higher model sales.

Don't think apple plans on keeping the air around forever. Maybe they have intentions of merging the air and iPad into one device one day.

 

[Jamo12]

Don't think apple plans on keeping the air around forever. Maybe they have intentions of merging the air and iPad into one device one day.

If I may, I think they will merge the Air with the MacBooks, not the iPad... The Air (their "next generation of MacBooks") will be the normal laptop and the iPad will be their super portable way of doing things.

 

[karsten]

3D games?
Flash? (in non-iPhones)
True real-time speech recognition?
Playing HD videos on a TV?

This is an actual smartphone, not some dumb Nokia crap.

sad, if it comes to that :/

 

[Yebubbleman]

iPt

They better not exclude the iPod touch from this, if it is in fact, happening.

 

[paradox00]

Don't think apple plans on keeping the air around forever. Maybe they have intentions of merging the air and iPad into one device one day.

The Air still outspecs the iPad (by a ton) and will likely receive a massive performance upgrade something this year, the Intel-Nvidia settlement paves the way for that (Intel can use Nvidias IP, and possible produced a decent integrated GPU).

Job himself said that he felt that the Air was the future of all notebooks (not just macs). I doubt it's going anywhere.

 

[paradox00]

You are forgetting 1 thing.

The bitrate for a FULL HD movie would be quit high. 16GB would perhaps give you enough room to 2 maybe 3 movies. 32 GB 4-6 movies 64 GB 8-12 movies.

2048*xxxx would be even higher bitrate. And lets not forget itunes isnt offering any 1080p or higher movies.

Right now

 

[gatortpk]

True HD Video bitrates can be high, or low too.

You are forgetting 1 thing.

The bitrate for a FULL HD movie would be quit high. 16GB would perhaps give you enough room to 2 maybe 3 movies. 32 GB 4-6 movies 64 GB 8-12 movies.

2048*xxxx would be even higher bitrate. And lets not forget itunes isnt offering any 1080p or higher movies.

It is true the HD Video can have high bit-rates. But not always.

I have Avatar on Blu-ray and it's a 44GB file. That happens to be about an average of 36Mbps, the general max for Blu-ray (BD). I guess that was no coincidence. I converted it to a .mp4 (or .mov) file playable by Quicktime all the way down to 4.7 GB (so it would fit on a single layer DVD). I still used High Profile H.264, but even then I had trouble seeing much quality loss. Though I usually would use a 8.5 GB DVD or just leave the 11.7 GB converted file untouched. That MP4 file, I could not tell the difference in quality of the video, and remember I didn't include lossless audio, which adds (the data rate) up too! I just did a nice Dolby Pro Logic II Mixdown at 160 kbps into stereo, all that's needed on a portable device.

That 4.7 GB file had only a bitrate of only about 3.8 Mbps, and that would be easy for any device with such high resolution. The iPhone can handle 2.5 Mbps now. I also converted Avatar for the iPhone 4 down to a 1.85GB file for a measly 1522 kbps data rate at 720p and played it on a full 32" TV and I did notice it didn't look as good. But on a 3.5" screen it was adequate.

So, I'm sure the 6 Mbps HD video I watch now on AT&T U-Verse, or less for Direct-TV and Dish Network looks good enough. Cable companies really crunch even the aging MPEG-2 video bitrate down too. If I watch MPEG-2 HDTV, I'll use the antenna and get the full 19.5 Mbps off air.

 

[lilo777]

2048x1536 resolution for a small tablet is a very bad design choice (that if it is technically feasible). Just like with so-called "retina" display for iPhone 4, the only reason Apple would have to do this is because of poor design of iOS which only supports fixed screen resolution. There is no any real benefit from using such hight resolution, just a waste of RAM and battery.

 

[Jcoz]

2048x1536 resolution for a small tablet is a very bad design choice (that if it is technically feasible). Just like with so-called "retina" display for iPhone 4, the only reason Apple would have to do this is because of poor design of iOS which only supports fixed screen resolution. There is no any real benefit from using such hight resolution, just a waste of RAM and battery.

You think the iphone 4 display has no real benefits?

 

[josh2012]

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Does this mean the apple tv may be able to play 3D movies through the app store?

 

[louis Fashion]

too Damn Hot

Man there is a lot of "chatter" about iPad2. Is it smoke or fire? I would be happy with just modest upgrades. Some of these rumors are just too good to be true.

 

[msb3079]

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News about the next iPad and iPhone keep getting better by day.
Engadget is right (previous article), we're going to be seeing an amazing iPad and iPhone.
I'm so glad I skipped the iPhone 4 as well. I'm still on an iPhone 3G, so when I get the new iPhone 5, it'll be a huge overkill for me, I'm loving it.

Now a lot of people would say "then wait for an iPhone 6" but the reason I held off was because I didn't see any worth to getting an iPhone 3GS, or iPhone 4, but I'll be very happy with the next one if these rumors are true. (which they are)

Seriously? IMO, the iPhone 4 was the biggest iPhone jump yet. I didn't get the 3GS because the changed weren't worth it. But the 4 was great.

 

[MRU]

No benefit?

Seriously if you are looking at a lot of text the superior resolution / pixel density improves things markedly.

You can't increase pixel density without upping the resolution on the same sized screen.

 

[paradox00]

Man there is a lot of "chatter" about iPad2. Is it smoke or fire? I would be happy with just modest upgrades. Some of these rumors are just too good to be true.

The CPU is in line with what has already been announced for the RIM Playbook and the GPU is a logical step up. I find these rumors very believable.

 

[Crackbone]

2048x1536 resolution for a small tablet is a very bad design choice (that if it is technically feasible). Just like with so-called "retina" display for iPhone 4, the only reason Apple would have to do this is because of poor design of iOS which only supports fixed screen resolution. There is no any real benefit from using such hight resolution, just a waste of RAM and battery.

Text.

That's the reason I'm looking for a jump in resolution. Honestly, the iPad makes for an average e-book reader because of the lower resolution.

If you could get a screen that was nearly as pixel dense as the iPhone screen, it would make a huge difference.

 

[k995]

It is true the HD Video can have high bit-rates. But not always.

I have Avatar on Blu-ray and it's a 44GB file. ...

That 4.7 GB file had only a bitrate of only about 3.8 Mbps, and that would be easy for any device with such high resolution. The iPhone can handle 2.5 Mbps now. I also converted Avatar for the iPhone 4 down to a 1.85GB file for a measly 1522 kbps data rate at 720p and played it on a full 32" TV and I did notice it didn't look as good. But on a 3.5" screen it was adequate.

5GB that still means only 3 movies on a Ipad 16GB . Let alone it would take 10 - 20 minutes each time to copy it.

 

[Reach9]

Seriously? IMO, the iPhone 4 was the biggest iPhone jump yet. I didn't get the 3GS because the changed weren't worth it. But the 4 was great.

Yes, seriously. Because that was my opinion, i felt that they could do better for the iPhone 4. It seems like the iPhone 5 will be it for me, probably until the next iPhone update.

 

[martyMACfly]

I hope so too. I held off on the iPhone 4 and kept my 3GS. I like making huge jumps in hardware device performance. Like when I went from the iPhone "classic" to the 3GS... big difference.

YEEEEAAAHHHHHH BOiiii!!!!!


I did EXACTLY the same thing.
Contract runs out June this year...j-u-s-t in time for the sweet perfume of Channel no. (iPhone) 5.

Boom.

 

[martyMACfly]

I think people should wait for v13. That way they have time to ogle the ones that are out and make up insane stories about what v13 might be.

V14 is a hoverboard too. Don't get me wrong, waiting till 13 is ages but if you can go to work on 14 you might as well wait it out bro.

Boom.