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I got my iPad *15 days before iPad 2 was announced...

And it's already feeling outdated.

:mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad::mad:


A valuable life lesson.Painful though.Gotta wonder,if you have been here,surely you had to know it was a mistake?What on Earth were you thinking?
 
You know, all the screen problems, etc and now they have to come up with this half baked benchmark to show how good a crappy product is, wew!

Get a grip, the iPad has seen its day, time to move on.

Who wants a third peice of electronic junk to carry around anyway?

Not I.

ROTFLMAO!
Thanks!I needed that!
Mine will be here in two weeks.
 
So while I wait for my iPad 2 to show up from my online order, I decided to rent (aka 45 day return policy at Best Buy) a Xoom to see what exactly all the talk was about by the Android faithful. After a couple of days I can say it's a decent tablet, and I'm not experiencing the issues I had with the Evo my work issued me. I will never buy another HTC pc of crap after that experience, and the hardware issues didn't make the OS look any better either. BUT...

Things I do enjoy about Honeycomb, the stock browser has a very useful contextual menu system that is activated by a simple swipe from either side of the screen. All your basic navigation controls are there, very smooth web surfing, smooth app transitions and overall I was a bit surprised how well it is running. Even on the Evo I had more issues in the first 48 hours than I have in a few years with my iPhone. That's not opinion, just fact based on my history with the iPhone.

Honeycomb however is not without it's flaws, in the first 48 hours I've reset the Xoom once, had it lockup/pause for 2 or 3 mins twice and prior to the latest firmware update late last night Youtube app was having some playback issues in the form of a stutter in the first 30 seconds of playing a video. Not all but probably 30 to 40% of what I was playing would stutter. On the flip side with my iPad (1) Youtube blew chunks as every Wifi device in my house would load Youtube very fast and the iPad had some serious issues, wifi or software, I don't know, but hated it.

The Xoom's screen ratio is nice for movies, but it does feel outta wack in portrait mode, but then again that is likely because I'm so used to the past 9 months with an iPad. The overall feel of Andriod 3.0 did suprise me as I've used a varity of phones since our work switched over to Sprint from VZW (why I'll never know) and we went with the various Android based phones. The Evo's seem to have the fewest issues, Epics seem to be ok, but the other "free/cheaper" phones are total junk. Lock ups, won't release calls, random actions when trying to type etc.. and so on. I can't believe how bad they run.

I have to mention, as it's probably the funniest thing I keep running into is when I surf over to say Fox.com or what I think it going to be a "flash" based site on the Xoom and get a grey box that says "This device does not support HTML5" lol I"m like WTH... that didn't take long. Rather ironic after all the heated debates about Flash.

Bottom line, there are some cool features I really wish the iPad had available, such as a totally customizable browser, Google voice/search is simply awesome and accurate. The built in micro HDMI is very handy as I will be using that damn adapter from Apple when I Slingbox my TV to the work TV as we don't have cable there and I always enjoy keeping up with the Golf tourney's and the NCAA tourney this month. That will be very cool to at least have the option, just wish it was built in. At least I get to mess around with something while I wait!

Well written and interesting.Thanks!Wondering what goodies iOS 5 will bring.
 
So,

1) the iPad only has a 900MHz dual core instead of the advertised 1GHz
2) the CPU is only about 50% faster and not up to 2x
3) the GPU is only about 4-7x faster and not up to 9x

Ouch.

Ouch for the other lawyer.

You don't have to run faster than the bear. With a big enough head start, you don't even need to run faster than the other lawyer.
 
why? These things have nothing on real laptops. This has no real OS.. can't install real applications and no file system. I have an ipad 2. DOn't get me wrong, it's fun, but don't pretend a limited ipad beats out a real laptop in raw speed/gpu power.

OK, so I'm nitpicking a bit but your definition of OS and file system is very different than mine, since the iPad has both of those.

Don't get me wrong, I agree it's not as powerful as a MacBook Pro, but sometimes more power does not always equate to a better user experience.
 
Well to be fair the Xoom was tested at a much higher resolution so these tests should be taken with a grain of salt. To say the ipad GPU is 3.7 times faster than the Xooms is innacurrate..

Would you be happy with, "it's 3 times faster, not 3.7?"
 
Apple fanboys have said that specs don't matter. Now they do? It seems to me they only say this when they know it should be more.

Actually most of the computer buying public don't even understand the specs let alone pretend they matter.

Specs don't matter, user experience does. Doesn't make me or anyone else a "fanboy." The new iPad is faster - that's relative experience, not a spec. Specs try to (and often unsuccessfully) measure user experience.

I've driven cars with much better specs than my own, but I enjoy driving my car better.
 
Originally Posted by Wayfarer
I got my iPad *15 days before iPad 2 was announced...

And it's already feeling outdated.


I suspect original poster does not live in the U.S. Back in February, I was guessing iPad 2 release in early April and then only in the U.S. first with some countries not getting it until May or June. Still unclear what the release dates are for other countries, right? Anyway, silly purchase but not extremely so if one is located in a smaller country that gets Apple products much later than others.
 
Apple fanboys have said that specs don't matter. Now they do? It seems to me they only say this when they know it should be more.
Ultimately specs and benchmarks don't matter to the average user.

If raw performance and benchmarks were important, why aren't Windows PC users happier than Mac users? All the customer satisfaction surveys have Mac users at the top. Remember, many Mac users are former Windows PC users; over half of Mac sales in Apple's retail stores are to first-time Mac buyers.

Windows PC buyers are getting more performance at lower prices, but oddly, they seem to be an unhappy lot. Perhaps it's more about the total user experience.

I want to know why someone would mark this as a 'negative'? Must be a Fandroid as an earlier poster mentioned.
There are a lot of haters in this forum. I mean a LOT.
 
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Yes, it is fast, and the camera is still crap.

You should get a really good digital or even film camera. If you are relying on a phone or tablet camera for pictures, you will be disappointed someday. These cameras are not for serious pictures. Yes you can get some pictures with them you will keep but to get some really good ones that you could blow up or print and frame requires something better.
 
Great... Now it makes sense to use non-trivial fragment shaders in a device other than the 3GS/equivalent iPod Touch
 
This actually did make me lol. Serious or sarcastic, that is the question!



i suspect neither...a kind of sad and probably lonely guy with nothing else in life to do, so go poke at things...when people respond, at least he knows he's still part of something...and the specs, as a user, make a big difference for my uses
 
Apple fanboys have said that specs don't matter. Now they do? It seems to me they only say this when they know it should be more.


People with an unhealthy, almost rabid, obsession against Apple products have said that specs are all that matter.
 
why? These things have nothing on real laptops. This has no real OS.. can't install real applications and no file system. I have an ipad 2. DOn't get me wrong, it's fun, but don't pretend a limited ipad beats out a real laptop in raw speed/gpu power.

No one cares. People love iPad, and not everyone needs the fastest lapto.

And the apps are entirely real, buddy. :rolleyes:
 
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Little dissapointed in that the dual core CPU is clocked at 900 mhz.

Weird to me that apple says 1.0ghz

Two sites are saying it's 900

i ran geekbench 2 and it was at 834 mhz then i tried a little and it said 934. i think it depends on the power needed and the cpu will adjust.
 
Fantastic results. Really pleased as it means the iPhone 5 will have great power as I expect it to have the same GPU and CPU. As I've said before, half the power of the NGP, even though it's most likely clocked lower it's still amazing power for a tablet and phone!
It's also another sign of Apple not choosing Nvidia as it's not gone down the Tegra route.
 
How is this "real world performance"? GLBenchmark 2.0 is a synthetic benchmark.
If two of the same "real world" applications are tested alongside each other on bothe platforms and one outperforms the other then that would be a real world test.

Although we'd want more than one benchmark for sure, the GLBenchmark 2.0 Egypt test is a pretty decent indicator of "real world performance" close to a real game not just a "synthetic" one and no different from running, say, a Quake demo test. As Anandtech said:

Anandtech said:
GLBenchmark 2.0 is the best example of an even remotely current 3D game running on this class of hardware—and even then this is a stretch. If you want an idea of how the PowerVR SGX 543MP2 stacks up to the competition however, GLBenchmark 2.0 is probably going to be our best bet (at least until we get Epic to finally release an Unreal Engine benchmark).

This is what the test looks like:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fbbbmMefUjM
 
Yet the iPad haters will keep saying that the iPad is not as good as that Xoom with its 1GB RAM. Whatever.

The Tegra 2 in the Xoom is more powerfull than the A5 in the ipad2 look it up if you don't believe me. ipad 2 has better GPU Xoom has better CPU and more ram so the Xoom wins.
 



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So if one assumes changing the resolution affects the refresh rate in a linear fashion, changing the resolution of the Zoom to that of the ipad 2 still results in poorer performance: 15 frames per second. Still only a third of the refresh rate of the ipad 2.

Alternatively you could scale the ipad 2's resolution up to that of the xoom and find the ipad would have a refresh rate of 33 frames per second.



(I scaled it by area.)
 
If raw performance and benchmarks were important, why aren't Windows PC users happier than Mac users?

Windows PC buyers are getting more performance at lower prices, but oddly, they seem to be an unhappy lot.

LOL! I love your logic.

If Mac users are generally happier then why aren't there 9 macs sold for each PC? (Instead of the other way around).

The Apple cheerleading squad never ceases to give me a laugh. Now you've figured out how to measure "happiness"?
 
The Tegra 2 in the Xoom is more powerfull than the A5 in the ipad2 look it up if you don't believe me. ipad 2 has better GPU Xoom has better CPU and more ram so the Xoom wins.

Well the problem is that operating systems like the one on the xoom require higher specs just to perform as well as iOS does. This is similar to windows. Windows users who buy these $300 machines are disappointed because the machines do not perform. Then the Windows user says the machine that costs the same as the Apple has greater CPU, etc. But it takes that greater CPU just to match the experience. So in the end, it is $/quality experience that matter.
 
LOL! I love your logic.

If Mac users are generally happier then why aren't there 9 macs sold for each PC? (Instead of the other way around).

The Apple cheerleading squad never ceases to give me a laugh. Now you've figured out how to measure "happiness"?

Because people are opting to hope they can get by with the $300 machine. Furthermore the Windows machine producers subsidize their quality machines (higher specs at lower cost than Apple) with large sales of poorer machines. With the market share being what it is, they can play that game.


But with tablets it is a fresh start. Apple got the jump and set a standard. Now there are no bulk sales of cheap tablets to subsidize the higher end tablets of Android and other OS. They are trying but customers have rejected the cheap tablets as crap. And so the higher end tablets are very expensive or require a contract to meet Apple's prices. Its a new game starting from scratch. There is no way other tablet makers will just jump in and sell quality tablets in bulk to undercut Apple with minimal profit. And the low quality cheap tablet option has failed. I'm sure they would love to copy the business model of laptops and desktops but lets face it, tablets are an add on. They are not the first computer. People buying these are not looking for poor quality at low price.

As for computers, Apple's market share is rising and no other computer manufacturer is over 30%. Now if you compare Windows vs. Mac OS, Mac OS is small in comparison. But these devices like the ipad and iphone are helping to raise the market share of the Apple computers.
 
Well I am suddenly much more interested in an iPad 2. Probably still won't get it though. Had an iPad and a 3G iPad last year at different times and it was too much of a middling device for me. I didn't use it to read on because I have an ereader for that, I don't use it for games because I have an iPhone and an Xbox for that.

Doesn't suit much purpose for me but I still love the stupid things. :cool:
 
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