My BMW 335i fully loaded costs me $50k. It would cost me $110k in Hong Kong. ergo, Hong Kong is a R I P O F F A R E A
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My BMW 335i fully loaded costs me $50k. It would cost me $110k in Hong Kong. ergo, Hong Kong is a R I P O F F A R E A
Hooker usually costs me around 100 bucks, but when i was in Holland last summer it cost me twice that amount for the same package. Oh boy ...
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i find quality of life much better in high-cost areas. i'd gladly live in Stockholm/Paris again or stay in Frankfurt than live in Silicon Valley. Here it's more than $500/USD square foot for a flat ... but that's because the demand to live in the nice areas is quite high.
also, owning a BMW really states a lot about your personality
You can actually go one step farther. The US is 3.79mil square miles and all of Europe is 4mil square miles. So for a wireless carrier to cover the whole country would be the same as covering all of Europe. And I know on T-mobile in the UK to add areas where T-mobile is on the rest of continent is expensive.
http://www.t-mobile.co.uk/shop/mobile-broadband/euro-broadband-booster/
So they get cheaper service but if they dare leave their area they pay.
Well, here is a post I made a few months go asking about average data usage. In one week, I used 12 GB of data.
https://forums.macrumors.com/threads/1082516/
Funny, 12 GB in 7 days, comes out to about 50 GB per month and I still have my data plan chugging away at Netflix right now streaming a movie. So, I guess you are wrong.
Here is another, where they used 31 GB in four days on the unlimited data plan.
http://www.cultofmac.com/guy-tests-unlimited-ipad-3g-data-plan-pumps-31gb-of-data-so-far/41607
Again, no action was taken by ATT
If you read the iPhone TOS, the 5GB cap is there, with the iPad TOS, it is NOT.
Moreover, this is a quote from Mark Siegel of AT&T when asked about the special status of the iPad Unlimited data plan
I've always use double digit data on my iPad every month and have never gotten into trouble. The reason is simple, I stick to the terms of the TOS which I have read, and it does not have a 5GB cap for the iPad. In fact, its a separate document from the normal Data Connect TOS that apply to all other data plans. That is why the iPad data plan is so special and people will sell their SIM's on eBay for hundreds of dollars. Its becase there is no 5GB soft cap on it. FOr example, I cannot hook it up to a USB dongle and use it, as that will break the TOS. I can though, stream videos using a non-jail broken device using Apple approved apps (Netflix) as much as I want to.
If ATT tries anything, I will see them in Atlanta for binding arbitration, which according to the TOS, they will have to pay for.
Here is some more reading on the differences in the unlimited plan
http://www.gearlog.com/2010/04/att_ipad_3g_is_truly_unlimited.php
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Covering the EU would be much easier because there's twice as many people (650M ppl in EU compared to 308M ppl in the US). More customers / tower to cover the costs.
Also, there's a big push at the EU level to eliminate roaming charges altogether.
link: http://www.nytimes.com/2011/02/15/t...l?_r=1&scp=1&sq=europe roaming charges&st=cse
I wouldn't need my multi-SIM phone any more, which would be quite nice.
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Thanks for the screen shots... But do you have any records from AT&T indicating how much data they recording you using during one billing cycle...
The iPad is different than the iPhone in that the iPhone is post-paid so AT&T makes it very easy fir customers to track their data usage logged by AT&T by dialing *DATA# or by logging onto their mywireless account online...
With pre-paid and no dialing capabilities with the iPad it must be different...
But by recording the iPad's usage by showing the usage that's logged in the phone's settings doesn't mean that you used that much during one billing cycle...
My iPhone's data usage in the phone's settings states I've used over 20GB... But that's since I've had the phone since 2009... Most certainly not within one billing cycle.
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Thanks for the screen shots... But do you have any records from AT&T indicating how much data they recording you using during one billing cycle...
The iPad is different than the iPhone in that the iPhone is post-paid so AT&T makes it very easy fir customers to track their data usage logged by AT&T by dialing *DATA# or by logging onto their mywireless account online...
With pre-paid and no dialing capabilities with the iPad it must be different...
But by recording the iPad's usage by showing the usage that's logged in the phone's settings doesn't mean that you used that much during one billing cycle...
My iPhone's data usage in the phone's settings states I've used over 20GB... But that's since I've had the phone since 2009... Most certainly not within one billing cycle.
As noted elsewhere, crossing national boundaries can get pretty expensive. I haven't yet needed to do it, so I can't speak to the exact costs.
To an extent -- your comparison is bogus, since you wouldn't pay any less for your data if you didn't want to travel outside your hypothetical mid-sized state. If you did, however, I will concede that the comparison has some merit.
Cheers
Jim
Not at the moment, my last reset was yesterday. Also, there is no way of using the Att app or online to check this; I've tried to use the phone number given to the iPad and it does not work.
I wish it did. If I were to watch one Netflix movie per day, basic browsing, downloading of email every 15 minutes, updating apps under 20 MB, and downloading podcast under 20 MB, hardly an abuse of the system, my data usage would be ~ 15 - 20 GB per month.
For those of you getting your iPad2 at Wal*mart, look at their website. I think you can order online and pickup in store.... Plus they have a $20 incentive credit when you apply online for their store credit card. And you can get some microfiber cloths to clean the screen... (not an ad)
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i find quality of life much better in high-cost areas. i'd gladly live in Stockholm/Paris again or stay in Frankfurt than live in Silicon Valley. Here it's more than $500/USD square foot for a flat ... but that's because the demand to live in the nice areas is quite high.
also, owning a BMW really states a lot about your personality
judging a person based on the car he/she drives is far more telling of your personality ;-)
Its not an exact comparison, in that 48 of our states are contiguous, but the UK is an island. However, its quite normal to go from state to state on a daily basis. Even with an extensive range in the US, I still think what they charge for these metered plans is way to high. I would even consider giving up my unlimited plan if it was 1$/GB and I could use said GB at any time. As it stands now, I use a health amount of data because its a waste if its not used given the pay structure used by our telcos.
Hopefully it will sort itself out in time! I remember when phoning from Europe to the UK cost a hundreds of pounds (ok, I may be exaggerating) now I find it is quite reasonable, same with texting. Significant data use has only really picked up in the last 3 years but I'm sure eventually the charges will reduce. We all ready have a cap on data charges imposed by the EU.
These US data charges seem very high. Buy Macs in the US, buy iPhones in the EU!
I believe all we need to do is pop the sim card from 1 into the new one and go. If someone knows differently, please advise.
It is not 2 gigs for $25. It is $25 for a month of access with 2 gigs of data included.
So the answer is no. If you don't use the 2 gigs you still pay the $25 for the month. However you can cancel month-to-month, and you can also downgrade for the month to the lower plan if you use less than 200 megs of data as well, to the $15 plan.
If you have an iPhone though, it is cheaper, at least on AT&T just to get wifi hotspot tethering and use that.
I was told by ATT iPad support that I needed to call them so they could attach the iPad 2's IMEI to the account and remove the iPad 1.0s. If I did not do that it might look like I was using the SIM on both devices and I'd risk having my acct terminated.
