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that's odd, because whenever i look at it - i see something exactly 33% smaller :D :rolleyes:

On paper, it IS 33% thinner, but that's not what we're talking about.

Take a look at Scott Forstall using it in this pic. With the flat back clearly in view, it actually looks much thicker.

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But you're forgetting the part where the iPad 2 has a FLAT back. That destroys the illusion once your eye hits that part.

And to some others, I'm not saying that the iPad 2 isn't physically thinner, I'm saying it doesn't LOOK thinner.

I'm not sure where your eyes will ever hit that part in normal use. You look down at the ipad, it will never be at eye level.

I'm not a tall guy, but I imagine I'll see the sides/back of the ipad about 1% of the time I have it. You'd have to be 3ft tall to notice what you are talking about.
 
So let me get this straight... you buy things based on how they look to other people around you rather than how they feel in your own hand?
 
On paper, it IS 33% thinner, but that's not what we're talking about.

Take a look at Scott Forstall using it in this pic. With the flat back clearly in view, it actually looks much thicker.

20110302-10385488--img4619.jpg

Yes, from the back looking at someone holding it in that way, I agree, it looks thicker.

But the user will never see that angle, and its a small % for others to see that angle, and as soo as you get the sides into view, that goes up in smoke.
 
So it actually being thinner makes it not thinner you are saying? :rolleyes:
Amazing new iPad 2 complaint discovered, its not actually made of marble at all as Steve Jobs didn't claim yesterday! also its not made by apple.
 
Dude!!

1. YOU MUST HAVE GLAUCOMA
2. NUMBERS DON'T LIE!!!
3. ITS THINNER!!!!!!!!
 
My iPad 2 will be exactly the same thickness as the original because I'll be keeping it in my old iPad portfolio case (after using a hole puncher to make a camera hole.
 
He is says it's an illusion I think. Because the ipad 1 has a curved back it's edges aren't as easily defined just from looking it, so it may appear thinner. But because the ipad 2 has a more defined edge, that's larger than the defined edge of the ipad 1, it may appear bigger from a casual glance.

I think is what he's saying.
 
So it actually being thinner makes it not thinner you are saying? :rolleyes:
Amazing new iPad 2 complaint discovered, its not actually made of marble at all as Steve Jobs didn't claim yesterday! also its not made by apple.

LOL. nice.


i can see what they are saying...example. the new porsche cayenne looks smaller than the old one yet it's actually slightly longer.

but then again, how many people have actually seen the new ipad in person.....thought so.
 
Dude!!

1. YOU MUST HAVE GLAUCOMA
2. NUMBERS DON'T LIE!!!
3. ITS THINNER!!!!!!!!

he's saying something different, about the illusion of thinness not the actuality, and he's right, but you don't get it and you are rude.
 
Ummm... I don't care if someone sees me holding the iPad 2 from the back and think it looks thicker. I care if it IS thinner and feels thinner to ME when I hold it and based on the rulers and people who have actually held it yesterday it IS and does FEEL thinner. That is all that matters.
 
So the OP is saying this:

"The iPad 2 looks thicker than the iPad 1 when it's seen from the back held by another person despite being physically thinner"

And the OP wrote this as the thread title.

"iPad 2 not really thinner"
 
He is says it's an illusion I think. Because the ipad 1 has a curved back it's edges aren't as easily defined just from looking it, so it may appear thinner. But because the ipad 2 has a more defined edge, that's larger than the defined edge of the ipad 1, it may appear bigger from a casual glance.

I think is what he's saying.

Thank you very much, that's exactly what I've been getting at. I guess it does take a lawyer ;)

Here are a couple pics of the 2010 iPad for comparison, even taking into account the sides. It actually looks much thinner in execution.

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That's exactly what your saying - in the thread title. Or is that an optical illusion?

Are some of the words bevelled so I don't notice them?

So the OP is saying this:

"The iPad 2 looks thicker than the iPad 1 when it's seen from the back held by another person despite being physically thinner"

And the OP wrote this as the thread title.

"iPad 2 not really thinner"

Let's not get into semantics here guys..
 
With the flat back clearly in view, it actually looks much thicker.

I can see what you mean, with the flat back and only a smaller section of tapering it gives the illusion of depth whereas the original iPad with its curved back doesn't suffer from this illusion.

However I think it is such a minor point that it really doesn't matter.
 
Let's not get into semantics here guys..

You wrote:
"It's a visual illusion and a damn good one, that coupled with equally brilliant marketing, has everyone giddy over it. In reality it'll actually look thicker"

Basically you're arguing one visual illusion (seen from the back) is more important than another (seen from the front) while tip toeing around the fact that it is in fact significantly thinner physically. And you wrote something contradicting as the thread title. That's not "semantics," that's just confusing the readers of this thread.

Besides, we're arguing about the look of the iPad's back when others look like this? The new iPad makes all competitors look dated.

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So the OP is saying this:

"The iPad 2 looks thicker than the iPad 1 when it's seen from the back held by another person despite being physically thinner"

And the OP wrote this as the thread title.

"iPad 2 not really thinner"

He shouldn't have, he made a mistake there, but the rest of what he is saying is correct and accurate.
 
Let's not get into semantics here guys..

Well to be fair, we're not... your thread title is saying it's not really thinner when it quite clearly is.

Rather than accusing us of being petty, at least put your hands up and admit that the title is completely wrong.
 
I doubt many will buy the 2 just because of Apple's claims that its 1/3 thinner than the 1. Apple's claim IS mixed with marketing - just like everything said during SJ's key-note. It's just different enough that all of my cases will not fit -I would have preferred it to be just similar enough for all of my cases to fit (Happy to cover the rear camera or remove case to use if need). IMO the OP has a point.
 
He shouldn't have, he made a mistake there, but the rest of what he is saying is correct and accurate.

This is correct and accurate?

"it's thinner but it's not really thinner because it only looks thinner from front and looks fatter from the back. Thus the new thinness is an optical illusion"

That's what I call cherry picking, misleading and reaching a wrong conclusion.

I doubt many will buy the 2 just because of Apple's claims that its 1/3 thinner than the 1. Apple's claim IS mixed with marketing

From what we've seen, it's really physically 1/3 thinner than the first iPad. So..what's your point?
 
I doubt many will buy the 2 just because of Apple's claims that its 1/3 thinner than the 1. Apple's claim IS mixed with marketing - just like everything said during SJ's key-note. It's just different enough that all of my cases will not fit -I would have preferred it to be just similar enough for all of my cases to fit (Happy to cover the rear camera or remove case to use if need). IMO the OP has a point.

Um, that isn't marketing, it IS 33% thinner. There is no marketing involved in using a friggin ruler.
 
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