what are you talking about?
a non retina optimized app on an iphone 4 would look the same as an app on a previous iphone
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iPad 2 Screen Likely to Have 2048x1536 resolution
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what are you talking about?
a non retina optimized app on an iphone 4 would look the same as an app on a previous iphone
If the rumour about the resolution is right, then i think there won't be a lot of other things getting an upgrade. I'd say it would look like this:
-Resolution upgrade
-Speaker upgrade
-design upgrade(guess the mockups are right)
-gyroscope
-and frontfacing camera.
-Resolution upgrade
-Speaker upgrade
-design upgrade(guess the mockups are right)
-gyroscope
-and frontfacing camera.
Sadly, they don't. I have an iPhone 4, and 3GS apps look worse on it than on a 3GS.
well, I have an ipod touch 2g, and a ipod touch 4g, and old apps look the same on both of them(because they are the same)
You're imagining it, other than the slight degradation caused by the fact that the pixels are closer to the surface of the glass, and thus arguably more visible, in the iPhone 4.
Add in a back camera (~$10 cost for Apple to add the same one as the iP4) as well and I am with you 100%
What does mb and mbps have anything to do with the upcoming iPad 2?
It all depends on the iPad event, which will surely happen some time in February-March; that's exactly when you sell your old iPad.
Glad I didn't get iPad first generation then 
I wonder if the back camera will be ****** like in the iPod Touch.. I mean, it will only be used for facetime primarily, not like anyone expects to be a serious photographer with it, but still.
Looking forward to April
I wonder if the back camera will be ****** like in the iPod Touch.. I mean, it will only be used for facetime primarily, not like anyone expects to be a serious photographer with it, but still.
Looking forward to April
But the difficulty in producing high-pixel-density displays at larger sizes is a fact not a simple speculation. Look, it would be possible to produce a retina-like display for the iPad but the question is would it be worth the cost? Those who are saying that when you manufacture at volume the cost can go down are partly correct, but if the manufacturing yield is low the final cost will still be high. Such arguments or statements remind me of that old joke about a person who says that their company is losing money on every item sold, but don't worry, they'll make it up on volume.
No one but Apple and their partners in LCD manufacturing probably know exactly what the overall yield is on the iPhone's Retina display. If it is approaching 100% then maybe they could produce a larger LCD panel at a cost that is only marginally higher than the current display. The reason I find that somewhat unlikely is that if it were true we probably would have seen higher pixel density displays introduced at this year's CES. Note that the iPad's main competition at this time appears to be the Motorola Xoom and the display on the Xoom offers only a 13% increase in pixel density over the current iPad (Xoom has a 10.1" display at 1280x800 pixels which is a 149 ppi, while the current iPad has a 132 ppi display).
I still haven't seen anyone attempt to answer my earlier challenge. If you're going to put a more expensive display in the next iPad what are you going to do to compensate for that increase in cost? Just saying that it will have a 2048x1536 display isn't venturing much when you offer nothing about what other changes might be included. Is it going to add $100 to the base price? Are they going to stay with a single-core CPU, a slightly tweaked ARM9 with the SGX543 graphics processor? Note that the latter would be as much or even more of an improvement than they did during the transition from the iPhone 3GS to the iPhone 4 with its Retina display. Frankly, if I had to pick between a dual-core ARM9 with twice the current iPad's DRAM versus a single core with a Retina display I'd pick the dual core every single time.
I hate all this "I must sell my iPad as it's technically inferior and I'll lose money". Everyone has bought iPad for a reason and I'm not bothered if the iPad has this magical double resolution or not. I like the way the first gen has turned out. It does what I need and a bigger res wouldn't improve things.
We'll wait and see at the keynote whether Apple are going to pull out of the magic hat. I think this evidene is a bit of a curve-ball and trying to prove something that isn't going to happen. No doubt maybe it's a version 3 possibility, but be realistic here guys. As much it'll be amazing, Apple I'm sure wont want to go too fast with this product.
I accept your challenge. They wont have to compensate. If Apple sticks in the better display and dual core ARM9 ect. they will still make a little (probably much less) money off of it, but still get a little. This is a price cut they may be willing to take if it means keeping them on top of the tablet market for years to come.
If the next iPad comes with double the res of the current one, Its going to need a dual core A9 and probably a dual core SGX543 for the higher res.
With regards to watching video you will be able to get the equivalent screen size to a 54" tv if the iPad is at a distance of 18"-24" and all this could be at 1080p.
Just laid down an iPhone 4 on top of and iPad screen and the text is so much clearer at a higher resolution.
If this comes off. Google, Blackberry and all will be crapping themselves. The only thing they have going for them is Flash.
With regards to watching video you will be able to get the equivalent screen size to a 54" tv if the iPad is at a distance of 18"-24" and all this could be at 1080p.
Just laid down an iPhone 4 on top of and iPad screen and the text is so much clearer at a higher resolution.
If this comes off. Google, Blackberry and all will be crapping themselves. The only thing they have going for them is Flash.
Exactly..
Remember there is going to be a tidal wave of competition this year.
If Apple can maintain iPad momentum with new hardware even if it's margins are reduced substantially, a big lead and continued growth of iPads would allow/mean it can at least recoup margins via continued growth and extra sales of Apps in the store (30% of App sales)....
There is more to the IOS money wagon than hardware alone...
fpnc said:I guess that means that practically every tablet, phone, notebook computer, and desktop display ever made is "Not good enough" which kind of suggests that you've never purchased any such device before (by your own "reason").
What I meant (partly in jest) is that your definition of "not good enough" seems somewhat suspect since the current iPad has a screen that is every bit as good and competitive in pixel density as just about every other display currently shipping or previously available. Thus, by logical extension those other products -- which you've just mentioned -- must also be "not good enough."
Awesome, can't wait to see what it looks like. This fits well with the "@2x" paradigm for higher resolution assets.
If they can't put a retina display in the next iPad, then it'll only be on-par with the competition. (Honeycomb is better than iOS, apart from the app store, but flash makes up for that - sort of. And I can't see a 5mp in the next iPad - maybe a VGA or 1.3mp). They need to pull something, that will make it stand out, until the iPad 3, and if it's not the retina display...then it has to be a 3D no-glasses display - it'll make them stand out! If not, then other customers will go for the competition, which has a tablet OS, flash, openness, better hardware etc. (I wont, I'm an apple fan all the way). A no glasses 3D display will own the competition, and it's cool, so people will ignore the competition. Then, for the iPad 3, when the competition has caught up, the tech will be ready for a retina display.
Fwiw, similar things were said about the rumored iPhone 4 screen being > 300 dpi before it came out.
https://forums.macrumors.com/posts/9525544/
Re: 960x480 iPhone 4 screen:
That's an insane resolution - though not impossible, considering (as others have mentioned) Dell offered 1920x1200 in a 15" back in 2004. That display (though not very bright) still looks amazing, even today.
If the iPad2 has this insane density - I'll be getting one - if only for viewing schematics and drawings - even consider hacking it into a monitor.
If the iPad2 has this insane density - I'll be getting one - if only for viewing schematics and drawings - even consider hacking it into a monitor.