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My iPads are on perfect condition no scratches nothing perfect. We just won a free one so now I have 2. I hope I can sell if need be, because if this ipad is awsome I want it Ahhhhh
 
I didn't have a reason to buy the first gen iPad, but the camera will be reason enough. :)

From what I get, the iPod Touch's camera is the same as the iPhone 3GS's camera, which I like very much, so if it's the same camera on the iPad2, it'll be a good camera. I always have my iPhone and Sony Alpha DSLR with me, so the iPad's two cameras will have its purposes, just not for general photography.
 
for facetime. The whole point of facetime is to have TWO cameras so you can switch between them.

No, the point of Facetime is video chat. After all, it works just fine on a Mac, too, which only has one camera. Most of the time when doing a video call, most people will use the front camera on their phone far more often than not. Why else do you think it was considered necessary to wait until we had a front camera to introduce it?

jW
 
I wish that Apple would start making computers again. Real computers.

Ones that blow pcs away and are not tech that's 1-2 years outdated? Yeah I agree. One reason I'm still buying PPC machines. They were the best at the time.
Instead of holy crud..the MBP has worst specs than my $900 Lenovo and is more expensive!?!?
 
This certainly all SOUNDS plausible. I vaguely want one, for some reason. Although I also kind of want the upcoming WebOS equivalent.
 
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I'm curious, can anyone offer me a reason as to why the iPad, or any other tablet for that matter, required a dual-core processor?

They aren't for processor intensive use, what's the point, apart from checking a box, with tech fans like myself?

+Run more complicated background tasks, faster app switching
+Better, faster games!
+iPad still does not have much in terms of media CREATION. It's wonderful in terms of user interface but lacks raw power. I would love to run an iPhoto/Photoshop-esque app with more options than crop/brightness...movie editing would be a dream on it, if it was faster and had more storage...
 
iPad double-sync

Apple wants this too. You may have heard of the grand datacenter in North Carolina. iTunes as a cloud service is not too far away.

I spoke with an in-store Apple representative who informed me that you can download to iPad and later sync the iPad to the computer.

Is this not true?:eek:
 
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I still don't understand the need for a rear camera.

+To show the person on the other end of the FaceTime what you're looking at
+Augmented Reality apps that overlay information atop a video feed
+Probably not as useful as a phone camera, but still neat for:
+Taking photos for inventories, real estate listings, law enforcement, etc.
+Medical applications
+To-Do lists

Obviously, you're gonna look like a douche if you bring your iPad to take photos at a party. But there's still useful applications for a rear camera...:)
 
i don't understand why people have a problem with the ipads current resolution.
have you tried watching HD video on it?
or playing HD games on it?
The current resolution is great! a doubled resolution would be unbelievable...... or magical

I took mine back because the resolution on the thing was "bad". I didn't think it would bother me but it sure did. Way too low res for me.
 
Ones that blow pcs away and are not tech that's 1-2 years outdated? Yeah I agree. One reason I'm still buying PPC machines. They were the best at the time.
Instead of holy crud..the MBP has worst specs than my $900 Lenovo and is more expensive!?!?

Apple doesn't make adjustments to price like others do, so "older" hardware is "more" expensive later in its life cycle. When a product refreshes, it is (and has been) quite competitively priced. The fact that you value component cost and do not value form, function, aesthetics and battery life means you're not an ideal Apple purchaser.
 
I passed on the iPad and waited for the ipad 2 to come out and it looks like it paid off. The only thing i wish would be included was a high-res display but even the original iPad looks like a good display
 
I on the other hand, had the iPad before the iPhone 4. Yet I will almost *never* use the iPhone in any situation where I have the iPad handy. I can't think of a single thing I would rather do on the iPhone except make a phone call. Loading tons of pages quickly isn't the iPads forte, sure, but most of my web browsing consists of looking at what's on the page I loaded, so that's where the "bottleneck" is as far as I'm concerned.

You might have a point there with certain games where they only offer a separate "HD" version, but anything else should be using the screen real estate of the iPad for a different app, not just a scaled up one.

I've had my iPad since April 3rd 2010. Got it day one. Also got my iPhone 4 on launch day.

There really isn't a single thing that my iPad can do that my iPhone can't. iPhone can't run Pages, but there are plenty of other mobile office suites for the iPhone that could take its place.

However, I can think of a lot of things the iPhone can do that the iPad can't. And if the rumors are true, even when the iPad does get a camera, the iPhone 4 will still take significantly better pictures than the iPad.

The only "Advantage" the iPad has is the "full size keyboard". But even thats not realistic most of the time. You can't type on it nearly as fast as you can on a real keyboard. Plus you have to position yourself and the device absolutely perfect to be able to type on it.

That whole line in the iPad promo video "I don't have to change myself to fit the product, the product fits me" is a load of crap, since you DO have to sit in uncomfortable positions to be able to type properly or you get uncomfortable holding it in your hand and have to change your sitting position to be able to position the iPad on your person in a more comfortable way.

As neat as the iPad is, the more I use it, the more I realize its more of an inconvenience than a convenience product. Especially when I take it out of the house. Its much easier to take my Mac or HP notebook in my backpack than it is to hold the iPad in its little case all day.

Apple doesn't make adjustments to price like others do, so "older" hardware is "more" expensive later in its life cycle. When a product refreshes, it is (and has been) quite competitively priced. The fact that you value component cost and do not value form, function, aesthetics and battery life means you're not an ideal Apple purchaser.

A computer is a tool, not a fashion accessory.

How a computer looks is the least important thing on my list of deciding factors when purchasing a computer.

You also cannot say "function" when discussing Apple computers versus others, because Macs are generally significantly functionally less capable than PCs. Look at a $2,000 MacBook Pro versus a $900 PC. The MBP is lacking blu-ray, high end GPUs, eSATA, USB 3.0, multi-card readers, higher resolution screens, ExpressCard slots, etc.

Macs have not been competitively priced since around 2006. When the MacBook Pros were last updated with dual core Core i7 for over $2,000, true quad core Core i7, with blu-ray readers and GPUs that put the shipping GPUs in Mac Pros to shame could be had for well less than half that in the PC world. And those same systems will still get around 5 hours of real world battery life. They'll also charge significantly faster than Macs and have user replaceable batteries. Sometimes dual HDDs as well.
 
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Anti-glare and 512MB

the iPad does need the much needed 512MB graphic card... and hopefully they will address the glare issue on the current iPad.
 
Where does the line start?!?

I'm excited about the chip set and the bump in ram. Those whining about the Screen Rez and the Cameras can go ahead and wait for Revision 3.
 
A computer is a tool, not a fashion accessory.

How a computer looks is the least important thing on my list of deciding factors when purchasing a computer.

You also cannot say "function" when discussing Apple computers versus others, because Macs are generally significantly functionally less capable than PCs. Look at a $2,000 MacBook Pro versus a $900 PC. The MBP is lacking blu-ray, high end GPUs, eSATA, USB 3.0, multi-card readers, higher resolution screens, ExpressCard slots, etc.

Macs have not been competitively priced since around 2006. When the MacBook Pros were last updated with dual core Core i7 for over $2,000, true quad core Core i7, with blu-ray readers and GPUs that put the shipping GPUs in Mac Pros to shame could be had for well less than half that in the PC world. And those same systems will still get around 5 hours of real world battery life. They'll also charge significantly faster than Macs and have user replaceable batteries. Sometimes dual HDDs as well.

There is and always will be a price associated with aesthetics. For Apple, I'll argue that the MBP (for example, at last refresh) was the most attractive of any laptop available at the time. This doesn't constitute the entirety of the difference in price, though. Form and function make for the difference, as a laptop is more than the sum of its component parts. Your particular list that you attach to the $900 PC is absurd and I can't respond without specifics--suffice it to say that my definition of "high end GPUs" is in excess of the cost of your $900 PC.
 
There is and always will be a price associated with aesthetics. For Apple, I'll argue that the MBP (for example, at last refresh) was the most attractive of any laptop available at the time.

De gustibus non est disputandum...

And I'll argue that the boring MacBook design is very old and stale - and has far outlived its natural lifetime.

I like the new Dell Latitude E-series (and XT2) with the black brushed magnesium alloy cases far more than the boring Apple 'books.

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It's also quite significant that Dell doesn't worry that having some useful ports on the laptop will harm its aesthetics - function takes precedence. (Like the little "bump" on the lid of my XT2 for the antenna for the internal 3G card.)

You're not wrong, I'm not wrong. You can't argue.
 
I'm sorry, but if the iPad 2 has anything less than 1G of RAM, Apple needs B*!#$% slapped.

The Nook Color has 512MB of RAM. Honestly really thinking about buying one and hacking it. It's guts have some glory. http://www.androidtablets.net/forum/nook-color-technical/3483-nookcolor-full-specifications.html

It would just be nice to see Apple treat the iPad as it's own device and not an oversized iPod Touch. I'm really interested in seeing the final products from Toshiba and Moto. Particularly Toshiba's tablet. It's looking pretty good (despite no pricing yet.)

I am kind over over singing, "I want more!" every time Apple releases something lately that everyone else already has. I think the only think that does keep me anchored is that I already am so invested in the Apple echo system with purchases. I mean honestly, when was the last time Apple put out a product that was truly best in class on a hardware, feature set? They really are lacking in innovation these days. The OS-es are the true shinning jewel for them, and the heat is getting turned up slowly but surely there. I almost feel like a traitor saying these things, but it's getting to be like marrying someone that seems so wonderful and different from everyone else to find out they're a controlling person that won't let me have what I want. All the features we've gotten the past few years: customizable backgrounds, folders, MMS, are all things that should have been there from the start. Basic phones had these things. And we have a parade when we get tech that's five years old in a device. The iPhone 4 was the first iPhone that felt like a complete device to me. I'm just wondering if the iPad is going to run this same old gauntlet. From the rumors of iPad 2, it's looking that way. First to market, last with features. If only the hardware had balls as big as Steve Jobs...
 
I must have dreamt up the two alerts of appointments in my calendar, the dozen or so audio and counter alerts on my candy icons. :rolleyes:

Just cos android's notifications are a bit more elegant right now, the one thing you're not going to get rumours from some analyst or supplier is. iOS 5.0

Keep your whinging to yourself til Mid march.

Alerts are just that - alerts. Active business professionals don't want alerts, they want to see their day at a glance. Where on the home screen can I see my upcoming appointments for today? Where can I see a snapshot of my new emails? I can't do any of this unless I wait for an alert or launch the app that has the badge notification. It's a stunningly bad implementation that made sense when Apple wanted to push apps, but as users get more serious and business oriented Apple needs to deliver.

You think i'm whining by simply saying it would be nice to have business oriented features? Perhaps you should pop that bubble that you're in so you can see the rest of the world. According to you, nobody should talk about "what could be" or "what should be" because that's considered "whinging" (I assume you meant "whining"). We should all just wait for Apple to do it, and until then it's a non-issue right?
 
The crappy part about this is:
1. 1GB RAM is only a couple dollars more
2. iPhone 5 will be released a few months later, WITH 1GB RAM :mad:

EXACTLY! iPad is one product cycle BEHIND the iPhone, which is sad. iPad needs to reach feature parity with iPhone so we can avoid this type of thing. How can Apple reconcile 1 GB of RAM on iPhone 5 (speculating) while its big screen cousin has only half as much memory? That's the situation with the current iPad and iPhone, I don't see why it would be different in 2011.

Apple should put both of these products on the same refresh cycle, and they should speed up their refreshes to twice per year in order to compete with what is undoubtedly going to be an avalanche of tablets this year.
 
The funny thing about your comments. It really gives argument that Apple should be able to sell cheaper hardware. Doing more with less is what gives them an advantage. It's like comparing stock RAM for an Apple computer vs. a Windows PC. The Apple just is more efficient. Yet always way more expensive. But it works for them. I pay the Apple tax because I never want to go back to a PC. Doesn't mean I like it though.

x2. c'mon apple. seriously?

However, they do have a pretty amazing way of making their software run incredibly efficient with no where near the processing power (in terms of both processor speed and RAM) of devices on other platforms.

And that statement holds true for basically all Apple products. Their consumer level computer line...iPhones...and now iPad.

Think about it, the base model Macbooks and iMac's are sold with only 1gb of RAM...where as on a Windows machine, you really wouldn't dream of less than 2gb, and actually now, 4gb of RAM seems to be a new standard. However, with only 1gb, you still are getting a snappy, reliable, efficient machine.

Apple has an advantage over other companies in the tech world because they are the only company that is fortunate enough (or smart enough, or whatever enough. However you choose to look at it) to be the maker of both the software AND the hardware end of things.

By making, writing, designing, and building both the hardware AND the software...things have been optimized to "just work". Things run quickly with less horsepower, if you will, than other devices from other companies.

So I guess what I'm getting at here, in a non bias manner, is that by comparing ONLY the spec sheet of device A along side of device B isn't an accurate measurement of speed, quality, and efficiency. The real world speeds, benchmarks, and comparisons are something that, as a consumer, one should be more concerned with. Not a spec sheet.
 
De gustibus non est disputandum...

And I'll argue that the boring MacBook design is very old and stale - and has far outlived its natural lifetime.

I like the new Dell Latitude E-series (and XT2) with the black brushed magnesium alloy cases far more than the boring Apple 'books.

laptop_latitude_e4200_overview3.jpg


It's also quite significant that Dell doesn't worry that having some useful ports on the laptop will harm its aesthetics - function takes precedence. (Like the little "bump" on the lid of my XT2 for the antenna for the internal 3G card.)

You're not wrong, I'm not wrong. You can't argue.

My point was there is a price associated with aesthetics, as was precisely stated. The points you do make are worth commenting on: natural lifetime; boring; function takes precedence.

1. I wasn't aware hardware had a natural lifetime with regard to its design.
2. Your familiarity with Latin is inconsistent with your use of an empty word like "boring".
3. You cite the little (I'd use a different adjective) bump on the lid of your XT2 as function over aesthetics--I liken that "function" to that of the blue nipple & trackpad?
 
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