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You posting you stuff from your all powerful and magical Xoom. I guess only you, and those who agree with your opinion of what is acceptable, are knowledgeable? What a joke. Don't you need to get back to your Facebook page?

I guess you either 100% fully support Apple or your a Heretic.
 
Whatever the RAM is, it's clearly enough for now. I suspect, however, that Apple's planned obsolescence strategy is to slowly step up the amount of RAM required by each year's iOS iteration, so that after 3 years or so, owners can't update their device. Being unable to upgrade is a pretty big nudge that the consumer's device isn't as shiny as the latest & greatest... I'm sure there are other reasons, but I should think that's one important reason they're rather stingy with RAM. That's very annoying, given how inexpensive RAM is.

Having started at 256MB, however, I don't think they should jump to more than 512MB for this new device, as more would raise the prospect of greater fragmentation.

We'll know soon enough!
 
Yes, which is why you buy an iPad 3, 4, 5, etc.

Do you work for Apple? You seriously think I (or others) am going to plunk down $500+ a year for the latest and greatest iPad? What a joke. Maybe every few revisions but certainly I expect an iPad to last more than 1 year and still work well with apps in the App Store.
 
Ummm...I have not had any problems running anything on my current iPad. No crashes, no stalls, no lag. What are others running that is so intensive that others of us are missing the big 1G RAM issue? That being said, if performance specs are up, then my experience should only improve and I'll be happy.

Replying to posts like this (well any posts actually) on forums can be a pain on the iPad.

If I need to open another window to grab a link or picture, or text etc and then return to finish the reply, often the page reloads with all the text gone. It's a pain, due to low memory. More memory definitely better, and it does make a difference.

If the iPad coud take 16gb ram and hexacore processors, we would see apps developed for it that utilised that power
 
Neither does more ram if not used properly or if apps are inefficiently designed. Have you ever tried atomic or icab instead of safari?.... But the poster you're quoting is basically correct. The underlying specs do not trump the importance of the overall user experience (if I may paraphrase him or her). The ipad2 is visibly quicker than the iPad (check out the engadget hands on videos if you havent see it yet), and that kind of robustness is what makes the overall experience.

Thank you. Someone who understands.
 
The is no doubt in my mind that the is 512 in it. Just doesn't make sense for it to be any less than a phone made by them LAST YEAR!!
 
Neither does more ram if not used properly or if apps are inefficiently designed. Have you ever tried atomic or icab instead of safari? See how many tabs you can keep open before either needs to refresh pages when switching tabs. I think you'll find that the issue is not with the lack of ram in the case of safari, but rather the app not using available resources all that well.

This came as a surprise to me in testing, but there it is.

Not that there aren't real issues caused by the relative lack of ram. Including in safari. I face it all the time with app switching, a massive address book and act calendar syncing via MobileMe, tons of media consumption and several imap accounts. My iPad is way taxed and i welcome the additional power.

But the poster you're quoting is basically correct. The underlying specs do not trump the importance of the overall user experience (if I may paraphrase him or her). The ipad2 is visibly quicker than the iPad (check out the engadget hands on videos if you havent see it yet), and that kind of robustness is what makes the overall experience.


Inefficiently designed applications are something we deal with everyday. It would be great if all apps were perfectly optimized with regard to memory, but they are not. Doubling the memory will give iPads more tolerance for these. Less crashes, less slowdowns, and very likely less tab reloads in Safari. You can argue that the "best" solution is for every developer to make perfect apps (and I would agree), but since that's completely impossible I'll take more RAM instead.
 
On the subject of Safari. I'm hopeful that the reason that they haven't solved the problem of multiple tabs and a lack of virtual memory yet is that they're looking for a better solution. One can imagine that with enough processing power Safari could treat tabs in a kind of suspend/resume manner, where the tab's state is saved as you switch away and seamlessly resumed when you return.
 
re: EVO and battery life

Actually, I have a Sprint HTC Evo and the battery life really IS a problem.
I can BARELY get through a work day with mine, starting out with a full charge when I take it off the charger right before leaving for work. If I get a large number of phone calls on it, or a longer call than normal? It's usually done for before I get time to get home and plug it back in again. I have to use my car charger to keep trying to "top it off" if I go out to lunch during the day, or on the commute home if I expect to be able to take any calls with it in the evening.

Here in St. Louis, MO, I don't really see much benefit to leaving the 4G mode on? When I do, it usually just says it can't find a 4G signal, or else it does but my speeds seem pretty similar to what I get with 3G, and then it suddenly drops out on me. So I agree that 4G usage isn't what's using the battery up.

But I could leave bluetooth and wi-fi and GPS services on all the time on my iPhone 3G and it lasted longer on a charge than this EVO does. Sure, it'd be "dead by the end of the day" too -- but that would be after I used it pretty heavily AND my kid played games on it after work, when I went to pick her up from my mom's place before actually driving home. I didn't ever feel a need to buy a car charger for it, and I never felt nervous about "talking on it too long" during the middle of the day and risking it dying before I was ready to plug it back in someplace.


The horrible battery life of the EVO is over stated. People are complaining because they need to charge there phones once a day. Boo freaking hoo! Plug it in at night it will last all day. The problem with the EVO's battery isn't 4G its that huge screen (WiFi and Bluetooth are horrible consumers of battery as well.)

Also, my rooted phones battery life is pretty darn close to my old iPhones.
 
Android tablets will do no such thing. They'll be lucky to have a third of the market in two years.


512MB is the standard...the Ipad 2 is the standard for 2012...

In 1 to 2 years...the Ipad 3 will be the standard and the ram will be 1GB or 2GB.

They sold 15 million Ipads in 9 months...they will sell 25 to 30 million Ipad 2s by the end of the year.

So me another tablet that is as sexy and thin as the Ipad 2?
 
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Who gives a rats behind how much RAM it has, so long as it performs quickly. If Apple can make 1 MB of RAM go as fast as 1GB does it really matter? The answer is no if you're wondering.
 
Whatever the RAM is, it's clearly enough for now. I suspect, however, that Apple's planned obsolescence strategy is to slowly step up the amount of RAM required by each year's iOS iteration, so that after 3 years or so, owners can't update their device. Being unable to upgrade is a pretty big nudge that the consumer's device isn't as shiny as the latest & greatest... I'm sure there are other reasons, but I should think that's one important reason they're rather stingy with RAM. That's very annoying, given how inexpensive RAM is.

Having started at 256MB, however, I don't think they should jump to more than 512MB for this new device, as more would raise the prospect of greater fragmentation.

We'll know soon enough!

I just want an Apple TV 3...with the dual core A5 and 512MB of ram...
 
what a rubbish post.

first of all we don't know for sure how much memory is in the iPad 2, yet you state it almost as a fact that its 256MB.

I am pondering just like everyone else...256 or 512? Hello? Apple? Care to answer? Hello?

secondly ipad2 was such a rush that they made it thinner bumped just about all the specs (minus the screen) and still managed to get 10hours of battery, while designing a new kind of magnetic case.
so i guess the real updated ipad3 will have a quad core cpu with a 1GB of video memory and 4GB RAM and storage starting at 128GB

Those are your specs. And I'm not the one stating iPad 2.0 is just a means to appease the people. Check out cnn.com or other sites. Apple has had a year to upgrade the iPad and as usual they concentrated on the looks and physical dimensions plus a few tech specs. I wasn't really that impressed with the launch. Facetime, cool. But wonder if it's going to have terrible optics like the Touch. No better screen resolution. Faster chip...nice. Totally new case design...not sure what the point is there. Battery life...I didn't really notice...my iPad 1 seems to run forever. Lack of new storage sizes...big bummer for me...I was really hoping the 32GB would be the smallest now. 16GB is a joke...and was a joke in 2010. And a joke in 2009. I don't see any new out-of-the-box apps either...like games or a calculator. Sheeez...couldn't have dug those up on open source?


finally they did not purposely avoid mentioning it. they have never released memory specs for iphone, ipod touch or ipad. i am actually surprised they mentioned that ipad 1 has a 1Ghz A4.
Yes. They. Have. Go back and read the article about how Apple retracted their statements...as well as numerous other websites that have attempted to contact Apple about the RAM specification.


and a side note at the volume apple buys parts and the cost of technology becoming less and less 512RAM would probably cost as much as 256MB did a year ago or if not it would cost them closer to .15 cents more rather then $15.

I was being generous with the $15. Who knows how much it actually costs...volume, style of memory, quantity of chips per unit, etc. All I know is it can't cost more than $15 to buy 512MB of RAM for the millions of iPad 2 units that Apple expects to sell. By the way, it's not .15 cents (unless you really mean 15 % of 1 penny)...it's 15 cents or $0.15.
 
The thing I hated the most about the ipad was the 256 mb RAM. I hate having to reload safari pages. If I have beejive running and open an app that uses significant memory and go back to beejive it has to reload. Never have these issues on the iphone 4. Every phone now has 512 to 1GB. My Atrix has 1 GB. If it is proven that Apple only went with 256mb I will not touch it next friday.
 
Do you work for Apple? You seriously think I (or others) am going to plunk down $500+ a year for the latest and greatest iPad? What a joke. Maybe every few revisions but certainly I expect an iPad to last more than 1 year and still work well with apps in the App Store.
See, this cracks me up. There seems to be two sets of haters, those that expect a completely redesigned revolutionary device every year OR one that has so much forward technology that it can last 5 years and still be up to date.
 
SHAMEFUL it is not 1GB

Is Apple wanting Android Tablets to roll over them? In 1 year, 1GB and 2GB will be STANDARD. :mad:

android who?? :p is this one of those urban myths? never ever saw one in real life.

anyway, nobody cares about the ipads ram. why should anybody? :confused:
 
This is exactly the reason I stopped posting here regularly. It's nothing but a bunch of whiners complaining about wanting more. Do you honestly think Apple would ship the iPad 2 if it didn't have capable RAM to run their own software efficiently? Did you NOT watch the keynote? Seriously, get over yourselves. The iPad has never been about specs. It's all about the apps and the experience users get from it.

This thread reminds me of this time last year. Complainer after complainer, stating the iPad is a doomed piece of failure. Look where we are now. Open your eyes, people! Appreciate what we have today. Some people are so ungrateful.
 
Do you work for Apple? You seriously think I (or others) am going to plunk down $500+ a year for the latest and greatest iPad? What a joke. Maybe every few revisions but certainly I expect an iPad to last more than 1 year and still work well with apps in the App Store.

Nope. I'd suspect that any Apple employee would be fired if they posted in here.

No one is making or expecting you to do anything. Feel free to buy 100 Xooms and build a fort if you want to. My iPad 1 is still working fine and doing everything that I need it to, even with its pathetic 256MB of RAM. Just like my iPhone 3GS. Shrug.
 
Actually, I have a Sprint HTC Evo and the battery life really IS a problem.
I can BARELY get through a work day with mine, starting out with a full charge when I take it off the charger right before leaving for work. If I get a large number of phone calls on it, or a longer call than normal? It's usually done for before I get time to get home and plug it back in again. I have to use my car charger to keep trying to "top it off" if I go out to lunch during the day, or on the commute home if I expect to be able to take any calls with it in the evening.

Here in St. Louis, MO, I don't really see much benefit to leaving the 4G mode on? When I do, it usually just says it can't find a 4G signal, or else it does but my speeds seem pretty similar to what I get with 3G, and then it suddenly drops out on me. So I agree that 4G usage isn't what's using the battery up.

But I could leave bluetooth and wi-fi and GPS services on all the time on my iPhone 3G and it lasted longer on a charge than this EVO does. Sure, it'd be "dead by the end of the day" too -- but that would be after I used it pretty heavily AND my kid played games on it after work, when I went to pick her up from my mom's place before actually driving home. I didn't ever feel a need to buy a car charger for it, and I never felt nervous about "talking on it too long" during the middle of the day and risking it dying before I was ready to plug it back in someplace.

The the thing though. Its the screen that is really killing the battery. If the iPhone had a larger screen like the EVO and the faster processor I'm sure it would suffer similar issues (which is exactly why Apple does do any of the above because they want the ultimate user experience.) I can respect that. To me leaving my phone plugged in all day is not a big deal. I sit at my desk its plugged in. The same as my iPhone was etc.

With the iPad 2. I don't have any real issues with it other than its being sold as revolutionary and amazing when in fact its a modest update. My iPad will last me until iPad 3.

Oh, I get it. My belief and feeling that it is a good product, suits my needs, and makes me happy means I'm a heretic. Nice. What a troll.

Wow talk about poor reading comprehension!
 
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