iPad 2 Weekend: 70% Buyers New to iPad? Individual Resellers Ship Internationally

[La Porta]

As far as cash, I paid for 90% of my iPad with $50 and $100 bills (gifts and exchange cash from built-up lunch money change) and the rest via credit card, so they do take cash for certain.

In regard to the "No AT&T because of scalpers," I was ~40th in line at the Albany Apple Store (out of probably 2-300), and when they came around to ask who wanted what model, there weren't all AT&T people ahead of me. When they get to me, I requested a 32GB White AT&T model, and they said they couldn't...not because they sold them out, but because they literally got no stock of that particular model. I'm not sure what the distribution pattern was, but a flagship (of the area) Apple Store didn't even get one type of model. That doesn't speak to scalpers, it speaks to bottlenecks in the supply chain somewhere for certain models.

 

[princealfie]

These folks are the scum of the Earth. They seek to prey on every opportunity to force you into paying their prices by creating artificial stock shortages, and unnecessarily long waits for valued items. Double the price is simply ridiculous. Buying 1 or 2 to resell, I'll agree, is free market, but buying 200 to resell is pure and simple GREED. When you hire multiple people in multiple cities just so you can game the system, there's no other explanation.

It's amazing how many folks don't understand the difference between the terms greed and free market. They think anytime someone buys something and attempts to resell it, even if it's double or triple the price, that's just capitalism. Sorry but it jus' ain't true. Economics 101, guys.

In case you need it: Wiktionary definition of GREED

Simply the reason why I am a post-Marxist. Word up!

 

[Rafterman]

Are you sure you bought a 3G version and not the WiFi only iPad?


I stood in line for 3 hours watching people walk out with 2 iPads in their bags. Since our line had over 400 people they should have limited it to 1 per person to make sure everyone in line could get one.

That's what they did in the line I was in at a Best Buy in Hamburg (Buffalo) New York. Even though it was a ridiculously ahort line (even by 5PM, there were only 50 people in it) and the store had over 100 iPads, they still allowed only one per person until everyone got one, then they allowed seconds.

 

[Mulyahnto]

Their was at least 500 people in line at the Apple Store in my town and he only surveyed 236 people total and came to the conclusion the 70% of people in that line represented an accurate estimate for sales around the country, how does he figure?

That's what polling is, it's taking a small sample to represent a bigger group. The problem here is not so much the sample size, but the unscientific method employed. I would believe that polling only 2 locations is hardly a representation of the average iPad buyer. Furthermore, a lack of margin of error indicates that the numbers have no statistical meaning.

 

[princealfie]

no, making the most of the market economy and arbitage, got a problem with that?

Of course, it's the abuse of capitalism not the idea of capitalism that bugs me.

Or watch "Inside Job" for the real scoop of the robber barons. Same bastards as the hoggers.

 

[I WAS the one]

Don't hate the player hate the game. It's called a free market and he's taking advantage of it. Nobody being forced to buy those iPad's from him.

True. Excellent point.

 

[Mattstkc]

Yea because the Verizon iPad is everywhere to be found.

The GSM's sold out in minutes, the Verizon's took hours to sell out, and from what I've read on other threads, people (for some stupid reason) bought Verizon cause they couldn't get AT&T to some extent. I'm waiting for today's replenish to try and get mine. The weekend was fail. Stupid scumbag resellers.

 

[BigDukeSix]

I did go to my VZ store yesterday. They said that they had none on hand, but that they order them with a 2 day delivery.

 

[La Porta]

The GSM's sold out in minutes, the Verizon's took hours to sell out, and from what I've read on other threads, people (for some stupid reason) bought Verizon cause they couldn't get AT&T to some extent. I'm waiting for today's replenish to try and get mine. The weekend was fail. Stupid scumbag resellers.

Not sure why getting Verizon was a fail. It was a toss-up for me to get one or the other, and I did wind up with Verizon for lack-of-stock reasons. The data speed is incredibly accurate for me where I am. How is this a fail?

 

[kirk26]

Today the base 16GB Wi-Fi model is for sale in Bangkok, THAILAND for US$1,150

At MBK Center on the 4th floor? God, I love that place!

 

[ozred]

Because sane readers like you and me are a nearly extinct species.

The average MacRumors reader is completely oblivious of Munster's pathetic record and MR would rather absorb the pageviews from shoddy reporting rather than point out Munster's laughable track record. (He's not even a star-rated analyst.)

Journalism died in the mid-Nineties. The media will lie to you just to get attention. Integrity has vanished.

Kudos for a refreshing to read, truthful, intelligent post

 

[ivan2002]

Of course, it's the abuse of capitalism not the idea of capitalism that bugs me.

The idea that capitalism can (and shouldn't) be abused is the essence of socialism. I'm all for it.

 

[ozred]

The GSM's sold out in minutes, the Verizon's took hours to sell out, and from what I've read on other threads, people (for some stupid reason) bought Verizon cause they couldn't get AT&T to some extent. I'm waiting for today's replenish to try and get mine. The weekend was fail. Stupid scumbag resellers.

You just got reminded it's a free market.

 

[ivan2002]

These folks are the scum of the Earth. They seek to prey on every opportunity to force you into paying their prices by creating artificial stock shortages, and unnecessarily long waits for valued items. Double the price is simply ridiculous. Buying 1 or 2 to resell, I'll agree, is free market, but buying 200 to resell is pure and simple GREED. When you hire multiple people in multiple cities just so you can game the system, there's no other explanation.

It's amazing how many folks don't understand the difference between the terms greed and free market. They think anytime someone buys something and attempts to resell it, even if it's double or triple the price, that's just capitalism. Sorry but it jus' ain't true. Economics 101, guys.

In case you need it: Wiktionary definition of GREED

Get off your high horse, you spoiled brat. Do you really think that when all those profits are spread out on everyone who worked on this and over an entire year there would be any money left other than to just feed their kids and put clothes on their backs?

Just listen to yourself whine because you couldn't get your 64GB-White-GSM-IPad-On-Day-One or whatever, and you have the nerve to call someone else greedy?

 

[crimsontwo]

These folks are the scum of the Earth. They seek to prey on every opportunity to force you into paying their prices by creating artificial stock shortages, and unnecessarily long waits for valued items.

Uhm, this is how the world has been operating since time immemorial.

Double the price is simply ridiculous. Buying 1 or 2 to resell, I'll agree, is free market, but buying 200 to resell is pure and simple GREED. When you hire multiple people in multiple cities just so you can game the system, there's no other explanation.

Free market doesn't impose limits on quantities. What makes reselling 1 better than reselling 200? Nothing except for your self-soothing justification for lack of means to be able to procure/sell large quantities. Cry us a river.

 

[TechKnow]

It's ironic that the iPad was made in China, shipped to the US, bought in the US, and brought back to China. @.@

+1. I was about to say the same thing

 

[macnews]

Good for him. Capitalism at it's finest.

Wondered how long before this was going to be brought up. Let me be clear...

THIS HAS NOTHING - NOTHING - TO DO WITH CAPITALISM! This is pure and simple supply and demand. It happens in EVERY system! It is why things like the black market exist.

 

[bdavisjnr]

I'm not defending this Gene Munster person but ... it IS possible to interview 236 "representative people" out of 500 and make predictions with a degree of confidence. You don't have to drink all the soup to know what it tastes like!

Why does Gene Munster of Piper Jaffray always continue to get coverage when he has always proven to be wrong?

Their was at least 500 people in line at the Apple Store in my town and he only surveyed 236 people total and came to the conclusion the 70% of people in that line represented an accurate estimate for sales around the country, how does he figure?

 

[Swampthing]

Get off your high horse, you spoiled brat. Do you really think that when all those profits are spread out on everyone who worked on this and over an entire year there would be any money left other than to just feed their kids and put clothes on their backs?

Just listen to yourself whine because you couldn't get your 64GB-White-GSM-IPad-On-Day-One or whatever, and you have the nerve to call someone else greedy?

Really.... I'm sure you graduated with Dorkus Honors. You ass-u-me I planned to buy an iPad 2 which I don't. LOL...

 

[Swampthing]

Uhm, this is how the world has been operating since time immemorial.



Free market doesn't impose limits on quantities. What makes reselling 1 better than reselling 200? Nothing except for your self-soothing justification for lack of means to be able to procure/sell large quantities. Cry us a river.

I bet you got alot of best buddies on Wall Street, eh? They trashed the whole economy in the name of GREED. But that's cool, right dude?

 

[Coleman2010]

The GSM's sold out in minutes, the Verizon's took hours to sell out, and from what I've read on other threads, people (for some stupid reason) bought Verizon cause they couldn't get AT&T to some extent. I'm waiting for today's replenish to try and get mine. The weekend was fail. Stupid scumbag resellers.

I called several Target stores in the NYC area and they have 32 & 64GB Verizon iPads in Black. If you are looking for one, try Target.

 

[TallManNY]

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That being said, why would you want an AT&T iPad in the NYC area? I thought NYC had no AT&T service?

Agreed. I'm eyeing the V-Pad for NYC. I need to get some info on the real life download speed though first.

 

[ivan2002]

Really.... I'm sure you graduated with Dorkus Honors. You ass-u-me I planned to buy an iPad 2 which I don't. LOL...

I suppose you really do have to graduate with honors to understand that the argument still stands even if you have to replace yourself with whomever you felt is entitled to buy an iPad more than the guy who ran it off to be re-sold in Hong Kong or Taiwan.

 

[doctor-don]

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I am an all Apple house. Both my wife and I use Macs, iPods and iPhones, we have an Airport Extreme, two Airport Expresses, and a 1st generation Apple TV. This is our first iPad, so this does not surprise me.

And, to my surprise, one of my relatives has used nothing but a Windoz machine, but her husband got an iPad for his birthday last year. Not only new to iPad, but new to Apple.

 

[ivan2002]

Agreed. I'm eyeing the V-Pad for NYC. I need to get some info on the real life download speed though first.

Here is my logic: if I already have an iPhone as an AT&T hotspot, while getting an iPad with the Verizon chip may not make sense in terms of how much I would be paying for the services, it sure does in terms of actually being able to get some. Armed with two 3G receivers, who knows, I might actually get lucky and get a 3G signal somewhere in this city!