No need to move to anther platform. We can just keep using whatever ipad we currently own. They actually still work even after a new one gets released. Amazing.
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iPad iPad Air 2 sound vibrating!
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No need to move to anther platform. We can just keep using whatever ipad we currently own. They actually still work even after a new one gets released. Amazing.
You're in a thread about an issue with the iPad Air 2. You'd be a fool to not expect to see a bunch of people complaining about THE ISSUE WITH THE IPAD AIR 2. Holy crap some people.
This is just how Apple Defenders get their "job" done. If a problem comes up on a discussion forum then they squash it with a constant barrage of "defend and deflect". Compare it to unrelated products!Make up statistics! Blame the User! Pretend you know about physics! Scream nonsense!
The tactic actually does work because most regular people dont care enough to argue with unreasonable people so they just ditch the thread and suddenly its "see... i told you it wasnt a real problem. that guy was an android troll".
The Apple fanboys works in this way: if the next iPad Air 3 is very fast but become very hot they say this can be good in winter season #
No need to move to anther platform. We can just keep using whatever ipad we currently own. They actually still work even after a new one gets released. Amazing.
Yup, I went back to the 3. For about 30 seconds, I considered going Android. (I like my Galaxy S4 phone well enough.) But, I'd rather stay with the iPad 3 than move to an Android tablet.
I hope Apple fixes the issue with this or the next generation iPad. If the vibration's here to stay, it'll be decision time. But, for now the 3 is still cutting it.
OK.
Here me out, I have a new iPad air 2 16GB, WiFi. Coming from an iPad 4. Yeah the speed upgrade was much appreciated. Now my screen is pixel perfect, no dead pixels and not other screen defects (including the distortion issue).
The vibration was slight at low volumes and increased at the upper range. Does not bother me, as I actually like the feel (I have two subs on either side of my couch, and feel each explosion on TV). I could see that it may bother some.
Now if Apple quietly releases iPad Air 2 rev 1 with a fix during this product cycle, can I not take my iPad into Apple and insist that I get a new one that does not vibrate. What would be the objections of having my vibrating iPad replaced under warranty during the year with one that does not vibrate. Clearly it may be fixed (I hope) and the defect corrected.
Like I said, I really don't mind it, but may prefer one that does not vibrate.
Can Apple reject my warranty replacement
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Kevin
Here me out, I have a new iPad air 2 16GB, WiFi. Coming from an iPad 4. Yeah the speed upgrade was much appreciated. Now my screen is pixel perfect, no dead pixels and not other screen defects (including the distortion issue).
The vibration was slight at low volumes and increased at the upper range. Does not bother me, as I actually like the feel (I have two subs on either side of my couch, and feel each explosion on TV). I could see that it may bother some.
Now if Apple quietly releases iPad Air 2 rev 1 with a fix during this product cycle, can I not take my iPad into Apple and insist that I get a new one that does not vibrate. What would be the objections of having my vibrating iPad replaced under warranty during the year with one that does not vibrate. Clearly it may be fixed (I hope) and the defect corrected.
Like I said, I really don't mind it, but may prefer one that does not vibrate.
Can Apple reject my warranty replacement
Thoughts
Kevin
No worries because that's not going to happen. The precedence of Apple fixing something like this in a minor revision is about zero.
If it's fixed it will be in the next model at earliest. It might not even happen even then. While there's a group of people here trying to make a lot of noise about this issue it might not cause enough vibration at Apple from them to do anything about it. There's still screen issues unresolved from the iPad Air 1 and rMini 1 carried over to the newer models.
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I'm primarily an Android user who just bought an Air 2 due to there not being many good options for large Android tablets right now. I've owned lots and lots of devices over the years...smartphones before they were even called smartphones, tablets, even a Cybiko (look it up). I'm also working on becoming an audio engineer in the music industry. Here's my perspective on this...
Firstly, these speakers are ridiculously powerful for their size. I've never owned any smartphone or tablet with a louder set of speakers (haven't owned any of the HTC Boomsound devices, so I couldn't say if they are any louder). Not only that, but they sound pretty good too. They seem to have a bit more oomph in the lower end than even my 15" 2012 MBP, which is saying a lot for a tablet.
So let's take that into consideration for the moment. Also realize that not only are they in a device that's a solid, thin sheet of aluminum and glass with no give anywhere, but these two fairly powerful mini-speakers only have 28 pinholes with which sound can escape into the air from. The rest of the tablet, if it were more hollow inside, would act as a chamber and dissipate the air vibrations (since sound is literally vibrating air).
All in all, this behavior is very normal. The speakers are not only powerful but are a bit more full-range than what is usually placed inside of a tablet or laptop. Since the Air 2 is built so rigidly with very little open or wasted space inside, and there isn't much room for the sound to escape outside, the tablet will vibrate accordingly.
Now, whether or not this is too annoying for you to deal with is a personal thing, and I do understand if some people would find it annoying. But it's not a defect, nor is it a design flaw. It's just how vibrating air works. Building a device, any device, is all about compromises. Apple wanted to make the Air 2 thinner, but not compromise on perceived sound quality. They could designed it with smaller, less powerful speakers, and made larger holes with old school mesh covers, and that would help things. But it would compromise their design choice.
The reason I mentioned that I was an Android user is because I see how many people are attacking others here for being "Apple shills" or "fanboys" for trying to explain this. I'm as far from an Apple fanboy as you can get it, and I still think iOS is terrible compared to Android. But this isn't an "issue". It's how it's supposed to work. And, if the tablet were not vibrating, the sound quality of the device would change as well. It would not sound like it does right now. My best guess is that the way it's set up now allows for a perceived increase in lower frequencies.
Honestly, if it's a deal breaker to you...return it. Because it's not something that needs to be "fixed". Only way Apple is going to "fix" it is by using smaller, less powerful speakers, or making the tablet thicker with more space inside, or creating larger holes for the air to escape directly out of the tablet. All of which I don't see them doing, since their design philosophy seems to be lighter, thinner, simple, and elegant.
*shrug* Just my two cents. The speakers sound great to me.
Firstly, these speakers are ridiculously powerful for their size. I've never owned any smartphone or tablet with a louder set of speakers (haven't owned any of the HTC Boomsound devices, so I couldn't say if they are any louder). Not only that, but they sound pretty good too. They seem to have a bit more oomph in the lower end than even my 15" 2012 MBP, which is saying a lot for a tablet.
So let's take that into consideration for the moment. Also realize that not only are they in a device that's a solid, thin sheet of aluminum and glass with no give anywhere, but these two fairly powerful mini-speakers only have 28 pinholes with which sound can escape into the air from. The rest of the tablet, if it were more hollow inside, would act as a chamber and dissipate the air vibrations (since sound is literally vibrating air).
All in all, this behavior is very normal. The speakers are not only powerful but are a bit more full-range than what is usually placed inside of a tablet or laptop. Since the Air 2 is built so rigidly with very little open or wasted space inside, and there isn't much room for the sound to escape outside, the tablet will vibrate accordingly.
Now, whether or not this is too annoying for you to deal with is a personal thing, and I do understand if some people would find it annoying. But it's not a defect, nor is it a design flaw. It's just how vibrating air works. Building a device, any device, is all about compromises. Apple wanted to make the Air 2 thinner, but not compromise on perceived sound quality. They could designed it with smaller, less powerful speakers, and made larger holes with old school mesh covers, and that would help things. But it would compromise their design choice.
The reason I mentioned that I was an Android user is because I see how many people are attacking others here for being "Apple shills" or "fanboys" for trying to explain this. I'm as far from an Apple fanboy as you can get it, and I still think iOS is terrible compared to Android. But this isn't an "issue". It's how it's supposed to work. And, if the tablet were not vibrating, the sound quality of the device would change as well. It would not sound like it does right now. My best guess is that the way it's set up now allows for a perceived increase in lower frequencies.
Honestly, if it's a deal breaker to you...return it. Because it's not something that needs to be "fixed". Only way Apple is going to "fix" it is by using smaller, less powerful speakers, or making the tablet thicker with more space inside, or creating larger holes for the air to escape directly out of the tablet. All of which I don't see them doing, since their design philosophy seems to be lighter, thinner, simple, and elegant.
*shrug* Just my two cents. The speakers sound great to me.
I agree that the sound is much better than before, but the extreme air vibration is a design flaw.
Yep. Yep.
When peoples fingers are getting numb while typing on the device it's safe to say that's a real issue.
I did. I got a surface pro 3 and so far I'm loving it. I just need to figure out what to do with all this power.
It didn't cost much more than the iPad and there are plenty of apps... at least the ones I use. Plus I can use desktop programs. Best thing is no vibrations.
Are you saying that the best sound advice would be to deal with it because Apple has grown numb towards customer feedback?
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Yes, and interesting enough the vibration stopped when the iPad was set on mute. Great stuff..
3 ticks isn't loud enough if there is ambient noise and funny enough, there are vibrations even at that low volume level. Why even include speakers if the experience using them is unsatisfactory at most volume levels?
+1 on the design flaw. Could have been addressed with better internal design, diff speakers or sound deadening materials. Even better, embed speakers in tablet surface like HTC phones.
If you put a theater room in your home what do you put in to negate or minimize vibrations/noise with other rooms? Double insulated walls (thicker casing), acoustic tile (different speaker grill) or sound deadening material like dynamat (sound insulation). Think that can't be applied to the iPad air 2? Think again.
I realize some members are willing to cross the gender gap so they can have Jony Ives baby but c'mon.
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iPad Air 2 for the win
http://www.pcadvisor.co.uk/reviews/apple/3580707/apple-ipad-air-2-review/
http://www.engadget.com/products/apple/ipad/air-2/
http://www.laptopmag.com/reviews/tablets/apple-ipad-air-2
http://www.pcpro.co.uk/reviews/tablets/391276/apple-ipad-air-2
http://www.stuff.tv/apple/apple-ipad-air-2/review
http://www.trustedreviews.com/ipad-air-2-review
http://www.cnet.com/uk/products/apple-ipad-air-2/
http://www.osnews.com/story/28047/AnandTech_s_Apple_iPad_Air_2_review
http://www.techradar.com/reviews/pc-mac/tablets/ipad-air-2-1269207/review
Such a deal killer, riiiiiigggghtttt. Not hearing many complaints .
Notice there isn't any mention of audio/speaker quality in most of them? Best check your references.
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I started a thread on the same thing with my iPhone 6 on launch day 1 and was pretty much utterly lambasted for it.
Funny how sane minds and people that actually own the device notice similarities.
It's not the speakers, but the design. The speakers are much louder (which is good) and at the same time the device got thinner. Apparently Apple didn't do anything to stop the sound from resonating inside the device.
I was holding my new iPad Air2 listening to some music. It was like a massage for my hands. I quite enjoyed it actually
I'm not saying this is a fix but the volume level could use finer control and an option to adjust the bass. The iAir2 volume jumps dramatically from quiet to loud and It's also on the bass heavy side. Those two changes could make it more tolerable for some.
You basically admit it's a design flaw. Instead of compromising their choice of design, they chose to compromise the functioning of the ipad. If they are not able to design a non vibrating ipad this thin, they shouldn't make it this thin. It's a choice, but a bad one imo. The Air 1 was thin enough and sounded good enough and didn't show this problem. But with the Tab S out, Apple had to have the thinnest. For me, it's a no go because of this. Sure hope they fix it with the next release, because I don't know what to do if they don't.
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