iPad iPad Air 2 sound vibrating!

[threelions]

I move to close this thread as either it is a case it doesn't bother you so it is a keeper or it does and you live with it regardless or return it.

It is present, that much has been established. The rest is up to the individual.

Mods?

How arrogant.

"I have decided this isn't an issue! I summon the Mods to appease me!"

People will be buying this tablet for a while yet and will come across this issue and want to discuss it so let them have a thread to do so. People like yourself are the reason Apple fans have such a bad rep in the tech community.

 

[DeeDeeMegaDooDoo]

It definitely feels different compared to my iPad 3rd gen. It's not enough to bother me though, I really love my new iPad Air, more than I ever liked my 3rd gen.

Not saying it can't bother anybody else though, just doesn't bother me. I don't see how it could ever numb my fingers, maybe some are worse than others.

 

[crashoverride77]

Some people just don't know how sounds work. Some guy in this thread summoned it up quite nicely with the "car door vibrating" analogy. Same when I blast music in my flat, everything vibrates but doesn't mean my flat is crap.
What do people expect when it comes to a device 6-7mm thin. It's like the stupid screen distortion nonsense they spew, I could do that which pretty much any screen.

 

[aohus]

huge misstep by Apple in my honest opinion.

not a fan of the sound vibrating through the tablet. 'cheapifies' the tablet itself by a large margin.

Steve Jobs would NOT have been happy with this. Just imagine Jobs using the Air 2 before it went into mass production and seeing/feeling the sound vibrating the entire tablet.

 

[urkel]

EDIT: I misread so some corrections are necessary:
Fiat - Nice car with nice sound system
Flat - A place where people live with "crap" sound system

Some people just don't know how sounds work. Some guy in this thread summoned it up quite nicely with the "car door vibrating" analogy. Same when I blast music in my flat, everything vibrates but doesn't mean my flat is crap.

No offense to the Fiat (because ILY, you're cute), but if your radio causes everything in the car to vibrate then yes, your Fiat sound system is poorly designed and "crap" (your words not mine. And BTW, my uncle has a Fiat where the speakers do NOT rattle the entire car so you may want to have yours checked out).

What do people expect when it comes to a device 6-7mm thin. It's like the stupid screen distortion nonsense they spew, I could do that which pretty much any screen.

Just because youre talking down doesnt mean you are talking from a podium.

"Your lightning cable yellowed and melted? What do you expect?!? Youre passing electricity through it!"

"Your iPhone 6+ bent? What do you expect?!?! Its a thin piece of metal!"

"Your iPad Air 2 has excessive vibrations? What do people expect when it comes to a device 6-7mm thin!"


In all those cases then people are deflecting blame by pretending to be an authority on the subject. But at the same time they are completely ignoring that other products in the same class do not have the same problem. Cables exist that arent as fragile as Lightning cables. Thin phones exist with a more reinforced frame. And speakers exist that dont shake its housing.

Yes, the problems are explainable if you reach deep into your excuse pockets but considering that Apple has those Johnny Ive videos bragging about how "we've taken design to a new level" then when these design issues come up then they should be questioned.

 

[oghowie]

Got a wifi Air 2 for my dad yesterday and tested it with some Netflix. The vibration is definitely there and noticeable. It didn't make my hands numb, but it does seem pretty strange. Scenes with background crowd noise or more bass basically make the Air 2 rumble the whole time. It's most definitely due to the thinness as it flexes pretty easily too. Not sure If this will be a deal breaker for my dad or not, but this thing is also much more responsive than my iPad Mini 2.

 

[Booloo]

No offense to the Fiat (because ILY, you're cute), but if your radio causes everything in the car to vibrate then yes, your Fiat sound system is poorly designed and "crap" (your words not mine. And BTW, my uncle has a Fiat where the speakers do NOT rattle the entire car so you may want to have yours checked out).


Just because youre talking down doesnt mean you are talking from a podium.

"Your lightning cable yellowed and melted? What do you expect?!? Youre passing electricity through it!"

"Your iPhone 6+ bent? What do you expect?!?! Its a thin piece of metal!"

"Your iPad Air 2 has excessive vibrations? What do people expect when it comes to a device 6-7mm thin!"


In all those cases then people are deflecting blame by pretending to be an authority on the subject. But at the same time they are completely ignoring that other products in the same class do not have the same problem. Cables exist that arent as fragile as Lightning cables. Thin phones exist with a more reinforced frame. And speakers exist that dont shake its housing.

Yes, the problems are explainable if you reach deep into your excuse pockets but considering that Apple has those Johnny Ive videos bragging about how "we've taken design to a new level" then when these design issues come up then they should be questioned.

He was talking about his flat, not Fiat.

 

[crashoverride77]

No offense to the Fiat (because ILY, you're cute), but if your radio causes everything in the car to vibrate then yes, your Fiat sound system is poorly designed and "crap" (your words not mine. And BTW, my uncle has a Fiat where the speakers do NOT rattle the entire car so you may want to have yours checked out).


Just because youre talking down doesnt mean you are talking from a podium.

"Your lightning cable yellowed and melted? What do you expect?!? Youre passing electricity through it!"

"Your iPhone 6+ bent? What do you expect?!?! Its a thin piece of metal!"

"Your iPad Air 2 has excessive vibrations? What do people expect when it comes to a device 6-7mm thin!"


In all those cases then people are deflecting blame by pretending to be an authority on the subject. But at the same time they are completely ignoring that other products in the same class do not have the same problem. Cables exist that arent as fragile as Lightning cables. Thin phones exist with a more reinforced frame. And speakers exist that dont shake its housing.

Yes, the problems are explainable if you reach deep into your excuse pockets but considering that Apple has those Johnny Ive videos bragging about how "we've taken design to a new level" then when these design issues come up then they should be questioned.

Quoting bendgate makes everything you say afterwards meaningless. It's been debunked and is not even worth mentioning anymore. There are no design issues, just idiots that sit in their phone. Same with the sound causing vibrations, it's a joke. Your the one pretending to be an authority when you say stupid stuff like bendgate and its a flaw. Do some proper reading instead of pretending you know better than the best designers and engineers in the business. Thanks

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He was talking about his flat, not Fiat.

Thanks, reading is a problem for people these days

 

[Mackinjosh]

If your flat vibrates with your music playing at a low volume, you need a new flat. And if this behavior is expected why is it that no other iPad does it? Or any other tablet for that matter.

 

[crashoverride77]

If your flat vibrates with your music playing at a low volume, you need a new flat. And if this behavior is expected why is it that no other iPad does it? Or any other tablet for that matter.

Again people and reading these days. I didn't say low volume, I said blast. If your flat doesn't vibrate on medium-high volume than you need new speakers.

 

[Mackinjosh]

Again people and reading these days. I didn't say low volume, I said blast. If your flat doesn't vibrate on medium-high volume than you need new speakers.

Funny that you keep harping on reading comprehension and yet keep ignoring the fact that the vibration issue occurs at very low volumes as well. People have written it many many times yet you continue to miss it.

 

[urkel]

There are no design issues, just idiots that sit in their phone. Same with the sound causing vibrations, it's a joke.

If you're going to pick a point to stop reading my post then you'd think it would be me mistaking "Flat" for "Fiat".

But as for your vibrating "flat" then you really don't see that to be a poor example? If you PAID a guy to install a stereo system into your "flat" then would you really just let him walk out despite the entire room shaking apart just because you want to play music? Of course not. You'd ask him for solutions because its your money and you have expectations.

Do some proper reading instead of pretending you know better than the best designers and engineers in the business. Thanks

Its very odd when people have emotional outbursts against a human being over something said about an inanimate object.

Did I really say I know better than anyone? This is the 6th generation iPad and it introduces an issue that didnt exist before. I have no idea if its because of "thin" or "speaker placement" or what. I'm just saying that people have the right to talk about it because its very uncharacteristic of Apple to let something like this slip through.

Again people and reading these days. I didn't say low volume, I said blast. If your flat doesn't vibrate on medium-high volume than you need new speakers.

And what if your iPad vibrates at low-medium volume? Because that seems to be the part of the issue that you seem to be ignoring.

 

[Charliebird]

Its very odd when people have emotional outbursts against a human being over something said about an inanimate object.

I fully agree with this statement. I'm a bit perplexed that people keep posting how much the sound vibration bothers them after they have already returned their iPad Air 2. If a luxury item like an iPad doesn't meet my standards I usually return it and move on with my life. If I feel really motivated I might provide feedback to the company.

https://www.apple.com/feedback/ipad.html

 

[Mackinjosh]

I fully agree with this statement. I'm a bit perplexed that people keep posting how much the sound vibration bothers them after they have already returned their iPad Air 2. If a luxury item like an iPad doesn't meet my standards I usually return it and move on with my life. If I felt really motivated I might provide feedback to the company.

And you claim it's not a problem for you, yet here you are posting still in a thread about a vibration problem.

 

[rsnhakan]

Yes the Air 2 does vibrate, for some people it could be annoying, but I don't care that much. Yes you do feel it while touching the screen, but it is not that bad and you get used to it. I like the speed, screen and camera of the iPad. That does compensate a lot!

 

[Scott6666]

Yes the Air 2 does vibrate, for some people it could be annoying, but I don't care that much. Yes you do feel it while touching the screen, but it is not that bad and you get used to it. I like the speed, screen and camera of the iPad. That does compensate a lot!

But not enough.

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And if this behavior is expected why is it that no other iPad does it? Or any other tablet for that matter.

This.

We've been trained over 5 generations of iPads that it does vibrate. Anomalies get noticed. And judged.

 

[Charliebird]

And you claim it's not a problem for you, yet here you are posting still in a thread about a vibration problem.

Touché, my friend touché. Apparently our hypocrisies show no bounds.

 

[AppleRobert]

I fully agree with this statement. I'm a bit perplexed that people keep posting how much the sound vibration bothers them after they have already returned their iPad Air 2. If a luxury item like an iPad doesn't meet my standards I usually return it and move on with my life. If I felt really motivated I might provide feedback to the company.

https://www.apple.com/feedback/ipad.html

Wash, rinse, repeat. I'd like to ignore the thread but this horse beaten thing is on the first page every day so I'll just keep continuing adding my two cents till it ain't!

 

[oghowie]

Yes the Air 2 does vibrate, for some people it could be annoying, but I don't care that much. Yes you do feel it while touching the screen, but it is not that bad and you get used to it. I like the speed, screen and camera of the iPad. That does compensate a lot!

This is my dilemma. The screen is nice (not a huge difference IMHO), but the speed difference is very noticeable. I never take pics with my iPad, so I could care less. However, I do use the iPad a lot as a second screen while I'm using my MBA or just doing stuff around the house. This vibration thing almost has me wondering if I should test a Amazon HDX just to see how good their speakers are. lol

 

[Selmir]

Just to say something really odd what I noticed it in some swedish biggest stores:

They have now put on their iPad Air 2s some kind of lock (!) so you need to put on maximum volume to hear any sound at all. Stores like Siba for example, our biggest electronic store. When I visited them two days ago, it vibrated already at six bars, just like mine. I told one seller this and he was with me when I showed him a song from Youtube on six bars and he also felt sound vibrations. I showed him also at lower volume. He was very supprised.

And now they are all scared on what people will think so that's why they do these desperate kind of actions. Or like our other electronic store, Elgiganten, who plugged the WiFi out.

So they are all aware of this here. I just can't understand, to be honest, how these so called "engineers" from Cupertino with salaries more than god didn't saw this comming before letting the chinese start produce it massivley. Now that is even a bigger flaw.

 

[s2mikey]

So they are all aware of this here. I just can't understand, to be honest, how these so called "engineers" from Cupertino with salaries more than god didn't saw this comming before letting the chinese start produce it massivley. Now that is even a bigger flaw.

I agree - how in the world did NO ONE that typed on the thing while having music on or even playing a game with sound affects catch this at all? maybe they really DONT test the products other than a quick startup to make sure the device "boots" to the main screen? Maybe they simply run them through some electronic gizmos to make sure they "measure" or "spec" out properly but thats it? Its very possible. This is the type of issue that would have been caught by real-world usage tests.

Bleh. Its a deal killer for some of us. Oh well. My Air 1 works great anyways.

 

[tazdevl]

Some people just don't know how sounds work. Some guy in this thread summoned it up quite nicely with the "car door vibrating" analogy. Same when I blast music in my flat, everything vibrates but doesn't mean my flat is crap.
What do people expect when it comes to a device 6-7mm thin. It's like the stupid screen distortion nonsense they spew, I could do that which pretty much any screen.

Mine don't in my Lexus because the speakers are good quality (low THD) and most importantly, the area around them is well insulated plus the speaker sits in an isolated subframe. Lower frequencies are omnidirectional vs higher frequencies which is why the vibrations are felt on the end opposite the speakers with the Air 2.

What's your point? It isn't bound to happen if the solution is well designed and worst case it can be minimized.

General comment
-It's ridiculous people are trying to force their perception on others in this thread. If you paid the money and are bothered or disappointed that is your right, especially considering Jony Ive's incessant monologues on intelligent design. Personally it bugs the ***** out of me and I'm even more irritated I sold my 128GB iPad Air 1.
-If you don't own one and think Apple can do no wrong, shut it.
-If you do and think this is a nonissue, great, speak up but keep in mind that's your perception. Don't tell others they're wrong if they disagree.

 

[Mackinjosh]

This is my dilemma. The screen is nice (not a huge difference IMHO), but the speed difference is very noticeable. I never take pics with my iPad, so I could care less. However, I do use the iPad a lot as a second screen while I'm using my MBA or just doing stuff around the house. This vibration thing almost has me wondering if I should test a Amazon HDX just to see how good their speakers are. lol

My wife got one on Saturday during Best Buy's deal (50 dollar gift card, plus she used a mover's coupon) and we've been comparing it to the Air 1 I got the other day (32 gig for 379 from Best Buy, who price matched Staples). The laminated screen doesn't appear to make any difference visually to me or her. Also not feeling this speed increase people keep mentioning. Moves the same as an Air 1 imo. The differences to me are:

- The obvious vibration issue. Even at 3 volume bars, her Spotify music numbs the tip of her finger that's on the glass. Every noise causes the back to vibrate even with a Moko full body case on it.

- The hollow feel of the Air 1 is gone on the Air 2. It feels thinner yet more solid.

- Touch ID is nice

- Safari and Chrome almost never reload themselves anymore. That's a nice change, and if it weren't for the noise issue, I'd upgrade for that alone.

- Battery life is marginally better on Air 1, but only marginally

- The audio on Air 2 is more full than on Air 1. Again, if not for the vibration, I'd love to have it for the improved audio fidelity.

 

[s2mikey]

My wife got one on Saturday during Best Buy's deal (50 dollar gift card, plus she used a mover's coupon) and we've been comparing it to the Air 1 I got the other day (32 gig for 379 from Best Buy, who price matched Staples). The laminated screen doesn't appear to make any difference visually to me or her. Also not feeling this speed increase people keep mentioning. Moves the same as an Air 1 imo. The differences to me are:

- The obvious vibration issue. Even at 3 volume bars, her Spotify music numbs the tip of her finger that's on the glass. Every noise causes the back to vibrate even with a Moko full body case on it.

- The hollow feel of the Air 1 is gone on the Air 2. It feels thinner yet more solid.

- Touch ID is nice

- Safari and Chrome almost never reload themselves anymore. That's a nice change, and if it weren't for the noise issue, I'd upgrade for that alone.

- Battery life is marginally better on Air 1, but only marginally

- The audio on Air 2 is more full than on Air 1. Again, if not for the vibration, I'd love to have it for the improved audio fidelity.

Ugh. This is why this issue is so infuriating. You've highlighted some great positives about the Air 2 but fingertips getting numb is...um.... Well.... A deal KILLER. Damnit.

 

[Simacca]

Ugh. This is why this issue is so infuriating. You've highlighted some great positives about the Air 2 but fingertips getting numb is...um.... Well.... A deal KILLER. Damnit.

Not everyone's fingers go numb. You need to try before you buy. My fingers are fine after.