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Wondering where Apple is heading from now and on in terms of hardware.

In terms of hardware, public expects a new iPad every year, Apple can choose either to improve or to introduce as far as the existing tech is concern. Apple does not release half baked hardware and expect it to sell (they have R&D labs for that). Expect to see the same improvement coming every year but who does not want: faster, lighter, more powerful, last longer iPad?
 
Very impressive numbers on an app which obviously pushes the hardware to the limits but that's not the problem with the iPad Air. The problem is that since iOS 7 that the entire operating system needed to be re-engineered and optimised for the iPad. It's still an upscaled version of the iPhone ios and as much as I didn't like the look of iOS 6, the iPad version was indeed special and tailored for the larger device. All that was lost in iOS 7 and it hasn't been improved with iOS 8 at all.
The iPad Air lagged even with iOS 7 and there was the eternal issue of the Safari windows (which is now better but still not nearly as good as it was in iOS 6 which ran on much slower machines).
So yeah. Apple may throw in as much horsepower as they want but the problem that needs to be addressed is the operating system.
 
I can't wait to get mine today. I'm a little surprised it's faster than the iPhone 6 Plus. But I'm incredibly happy at the speed of my 6 Plus at the moment. It's so much less painful to use than the 4S
 
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In terms of hardware, public expects a new iPad every year, Apple can choose either to improve or to introduce as far as the existing tech is concern. Apple does not release half baked hardware and expect it to sell (they have R&D labs for that). Expect to see the same improvement coming every year but who does not want: faster, lighter, more powerful, last longer iPad?

Which doesn't mean they don't release half baked software... ;) iOS 8 has been nothing but trouble.
 
And that just emphasizes that the every iPhone s is the real iPhone.

So you think that a speed increase is more important than increase from 4 to 4.7/5.5 inches?

Personally I might wait for the 6s myself for various reasons, but I don't consider it as the "real" iPhone release.
 
You've had tasks suspension, and a few background tasks that apple tightly manages.
Those 'few background tasks' got expanded to every app and almost anything (that actually is a faceless background task) in iOS7. Though Apple is still limiting this by giving the tasks only intermittent access to the CPU.
 
Very impressive numbers on an app which obviously pushes the hardware to the limits but that's not the problem with the iPad Air. The problem is that since iOS 7 that the entire operating system needed to be re-engineered and optimised for the iPad. It's still an upscaled version of the iPhone ios and as much as I didn't like the look of iOS 6, the iPad version was indeed special and tailored for the larger device. All that was lost in iOS 7 and it hasn't been improved with iOS 8 at all.
The iPad Air lagged even with iOS 7 and there was the eternal issue of the Safari windows (which is now better but still not nearly as good as it was in iOS 6 which ran on much slower machines).
So yeah. Apple may throw in as much horsepower as they want but the problem that needs to be addressed is the operating system.

With 16% drop in iPad sales, apple will care even less about iPad optimization, if that was even possible
 
You're joking, right?

Actually, I am not. If you look at the PC/Mac market you can buy a iMac all the way from 2007 and it still able to run the latest OS. And this new iPad Air is basically as fast as my 2011 Macbook Air 11". I think the mobile computing world is coming to a point where models e.g. this new iPad get's more that 3+ in software upgrades. Let's put it into perceptive, the iPad Air 2 has the twice the CPU performance as a Macbook Air introduced in 2010 and the Macbook Air 2010 runs OS X Yosemite adequately. iOS, has allows been an OS that doesn't require really fast hardware so the iPad Air 2 should be one of the most future proof Apple mobile device yet.
 
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Actually it's not hard at all.

It's ALL orchestrated by Apple so that they have something to champion for the s model. FORM one year, FUNCTION the next.

Wow. Do you even understand Microarchetecture? No it isn't some sort of big conspiracy. Please stopping believing that BS.
 
If you're an engineer why would you be using an iPad, surely there are numerous Windows machines that will do what you want, like the Surface Pro 3.

Maybe he doesn't want to use a bungled UX that looks like trash... Why anyone would get a Surface Pro when they could have a MacBook Air for the same price is beyond me.
 
Those 'few background tasks' got expanded to every app and almost anything (that actually is a faceless background task) in iOS7. Though Apple is still limiting this by giving the tasks only intermittent access to the CPU.

correct. It's just that the apple fanbois are being purposely obtuse when it comes to multitasking that customers are asking for.
 
Samsung has some catching up to do.

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That is one processor four cores, the numbers are pretty much the same.

Why is everyone doing Geekbench here? Use a real benchmark that includes GPU surely?

A much better comparison is here: http://wccftech.com/iphone-6-samsungs-galaxy-note-4-galaxy-note-edge-ultimate-showdown/
iP6+ to Note4. iP6+ wins in CPU, Note4 wins in 3D (GPU), iP6+ beats Note4 in 2D but really because the Note4 is higher res. End of the day, pretty much the same.
 
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With 16% drop in iPad sales, apple will care even less about iPad optimization, if that was even possible

Yeah, but the reason why sales are dropping is because the device is failing to establish itself as being capable of doing anything for people that they can't do with a now larger iPhone.
There isn't any "wow, it can do that?" aspect to the iPad anymore. Just take some examples like the reminders app which is just an upscaled version of the iPhone app and the same goes for Notes, Calendar, etc.
It needs re-thinking and re-imagining otherwise sales will continue to drop and only people looking for specific apps which they know exist for tablet and are useful for them will buy the iPad. But even if it is to become a niche product, it still needs hardware-software optimising if they don't want to re-imagine anything else.
 
Not having 2GB RAM was my main worry, now I know it has I'm definitely getting one.

These scores, which are nothing short of epic by the way, are really just the icing on the cake :D
 
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Now that we have an inkling of the power of this thing, that might explain not being able to put the same chip in the iPad Mini 3. It's possible the power/battery needs and the heat produced are too much for a device the size of a Mini. Would also explain why it's not in the iPhone 6 Plus. This all makes much more sense now. Although they still could have put a regular A8 into the Mini. But that would require yet another logic board configuration seperate from the iPhone and Air 2.
 
... Aaaaannnnd this is why I chose to do Edge. I got burned with the iPad 3 and my memory is long. I'll have my eye on the 6s next year and just buy it outright if all the specs play out.
 
A lot of you are getting snowed by the very positive headline.

Most generational improvements in the single core benchmark have been on the order of 2x or 100%. This generation is a mere 23% improvement. That's generally what I would consider bad.

Single core performance history

iPhone 4 - 207
iPhone 4S - 215 (but dual core)
iPhone 5 - 710
iPhone 5S - 1400
iPhone 6 - 1609

Single core performance matters a lot more than adding a third core. It's a given that the multi core benchmark is going to do gangbusters with an extra core, but the fact is that most normal apps won't have much of a reason to use a third core. I'm still glad they added the core, but I'd much rather have seen a true generational leap in performance.
 
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