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I went to an Apple Store today with the intention of buying a gold iPad Air 2 128 gb version.

However after trying out various demo units, no way I'm buying this product. What people post here on this forum is true and is no exaggeration. (Apple employees also confirmed what I observed and they were able to replicate it themselves without much problems. So I wasn't pressing the screen too hard). The build quality is not on the same level as my iPhone 5S and my iPad 3.

I think I'll buy the iPhone 6S plus next year perhaps since Apple will probably make the iPad Air 3 even more thin and hence cause more problems.
 
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The build quality is not on the same level as my iPhone 5S and my iPad 3.

I love my iPad 4. It doesn't come in 128G (Does now, but not when I bought mine), but you can't have everything I guess.

I would have held out for the 128G but pulled the trigger too fast, but still love it. Got one with no flaws that I can tell.

But on the 'flaws': Apple's subcontractors put out how many thousands of them a day? There is bound to be issues occasionally with them, heightened by the fact that some models are built by several different subcontractors and in several different facilities.

It is odd that the serial number is not on the outside of the box. Is it printed in invisible ink? How do they keep track of them...
 
I love my iPad 4. It doesn't come in 128G (Does now, but not when I bought mine), but you can't have everything I guess.

I would have held out for the 128G but pulled the trigger too fast, but still love it. Got one with no flaws that I can tell.

But on the 'flaws': Apple's subcontractors put out how many thousands of them a day? There is bound to be issues occasionally with them, heightened by the fact that some models are built by several different subcontractors and in several different facilities.

It is odd that the serial number is not on the outside of the box. Is it printed in invisible ink? How do they keep track of them...

Hmm. My iPad has the serial number on the box
 
The air once you have tried air 2 is a brick like the 3/4 before it.

Absolute NONSENSE.

It's laughable how much rubbish people post on this forum to try and put down other peoples devices in order to make their own purchase seem that much more worthwhile to them. The weight difference between iPad 4 to iPad Air is 184g and 2mm of thickness.

The iPad Air 2 is 32g lighter than the iPad Air 1 and just 1.4mm thinner than a device that was already incredibly thinner than it's own predecessor.

Yes the Air 2 is thinner and lighter but the Air 1 is nowhere near a "brick" when compared to the Air 2 and the jump in thinness and lightness is nowhere near as big as the iPad 3/4 to iPad Air was.

I've watched many clips on YouTube where a person blindfolded was handed each Air in either hand and asked to pick the new one. They got it wrong. The difference is negligible. Calling the iPad Air a "brick" is absolute nonsense.

For the record, I get my annual iPad refresh in June, so I'll have an iPad Air 2 come the summer but I won't be coming on here to run the iPad Air 1 down the second I've replaced it.
 
So the iPad Air 2 seems to have the following problems:
- screen distortion
- slow flash
- vibrations caused by the spreakers

So it's better to wait for the iPad Air 3 or iPad Pro?

Like all issues, there are a very few number of users proportionately actually reporting these issues. In 1 million units you may have 1000 bad ones, which represents 1/10th of 1% of those sold, but naturally those users are going to complain here, there, and everywhere. Nobody creates threads about their iDevices not having issues.

If you need an iPad, buy what's out there today. For crying out loud the iPad Air 2 just came out and you're talking about waiting for iPad Air 3? That's likely almost a year away. And iPad Pro? I didn't realize there was anything announced regarding it's availability or even likely existence. There will always be a better product coming, that's the nature of technology. Buy the iPad Air 2 if you need\want an iPad now, and if it has issues, that's what the warranty is for.

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Absolute NONSENSE.

It's laughable how much rubbish people post on this forum to try and put down other peoples devices in order to make their own purchase seem that much more worthwhile to them. The weight difference between iPad 4 to iPad Air is 184g and 2mm of thickness.

Not absolute nonsense. 2mm thickness difference is huge when you're in the sub-10mm measurements. The fact is that's 30% less thickness to a product. When you buy a car, then the next year they come out with a model that gets 30% more miles per gallon, I suppose you call those who say it's significant nonsense as well. LOL

One could say it's laughable about how people post on this forum to downplay the fact that they own older, less powerful, thicker products.
 
There will ALWAYS be SOMETHING for people to complain about. The next device will have a new set of "issues." Personally, I'm quite happy with my air 2.
 
Like all issues, there are a very few number of users proportionately actually reporting these issues. In 1 million units you may have 1000 bad ones, which represents 1/10th of 1% of those sold, but naturally those users are going to complain here, there, and everywhere. Nobody creates threads about their iDevices not having issues.

If you need an iPad, buy what's out there today. For crying out loud the iPad Air 2 just came out and you're talking about waiting for iPad Air 3? That's likely almost a year away. And iPad Pro? I didn't realize there was anything announced regarding it's availability or even likely existence. There will always be a better product coming, that's the nature of technology. Buy the iPad Air 2 if you need\want an iPad now, and if it has issues, that's what the warranty is for.

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Not absolute nonsense. 2mm thickness difference is huge when you're in the sub-10mm measurements. The fact is that's 30% less thickness to a product. When you buy a car, then the next year they come out with a model that gets 30% more miles per gallon, I suppose you call those who say it's significant nonsense as well. LOL

One could say it's laughable about how people post on this forum to downplay the fact that they own older, less powerful, thicker products.

The use of the term "brick" to describe the Air 1 was nonsense. The change from Air 1 to Air 2 is nowhere near the iPad 3/4 to iPad Air, no matter what the guy I originally quoted says.

And I upgrade my iPad every year, complete with nice 20% saving through my work. Trust me, I call things as they are and not because of any inferiority complex. My Air 2 in June when the renewal comes round will be my 4th iPad in 4 years. :rolleyes:

Oh and the Air 2 is 18% thinner than the Air 1, not 30%. I'm fact, reading your post back again it appears you've skimmed and seem to think I'm saying the difference from iPad 4 to iPad Air 2 isn't much ... try reading again. You've posted PART of a comment to suit and picked up entirely the wrong end of the stick.

Read the FULL thing again. That comment quoted was the first part of detailing the difference between iPad 4 and iPad Air 1 to show that the gap between those two devices was far greater than the size/weight gap between Air 1 and Air 2.
 
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Absolute NONSENSE.

It's laughable how much rubbish people post on this forum to try and put down other peoples devices in order to make their own purchase seem that much more worthwhile to them. The weight difference between iPad 4 to iPad Air is 184g and 2mm of thickness.

The iPad Air 2 is 32g lighter than the iPad Air 1 and just 1.4mm thinner than a device that was already incredibly thinner than it's own predecessor.

Yes the Air 2 is thinner and lighter but the Air 1 is nowhere near a "brick" when compared to the Air 2 and the jump in thinness and lightness is nowhere near as big as the iPad 3/4 to iPad Air was.

I've watched many clips on YouTube where a person blindfolded was handed each Air in either hand and asked to pick the new one. They got it wrong. The difference is negligible. Calling the iPad Air a "brick" is absolute nonsense.

For the record, I get my annual iPad refresh in June, so I'll have an iPad Air 2 come the summer but I won't be coming on here to run the iPad Air 1 down the second I've replaced it.


These is your opinion, mine is different... I'm not a fanboy and in the beginning I thought that this was not that big upgrade because of the modest weight reduction.... Then I went and tried the iPad and the difference is noticeable... Not in strictly term of weight, but in term of sensation....
I'm not trying to take a decision for someone else... I'm only trying to give an advice to someone else.... Maybe you should think more time before writing about rubbish and other things like that, because my opion could be wrong, but also yours could be....
Said that have a nice day with your bricky brick
Bye
 
Like all issues, there are a very few number of users proportionately actually reporting these issues. In 1 million units you may have 1000 bad ones, which represents 1/10th of 1% of those sold, but naturally those users are going to complain here, there, and everywhere. Nobody creates threads about their iDevices not having issues.

If you need an iPad, buy what's out there today. For crying out loud the iPad Air 2 just came out and you're talking about waiting for iPad Air 3? That's likely almost a year away. And iPad Pro? I didn't realize there was anything announced regarding it's availability or even likely existence. There will always be a better product coming, that's the nature of technology. Buy the iPad Air 2 if you need\want an iPad now, and if it has issues, that's what the warranty is for.

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Not absolute nonsense. 2mm thickness difference is huge when you're in the sub-10mm measurements. The fact is that's 30% less thickness to a product. When you buy a car, then the next year they come out with a model that gets 30% more miles per gallon, I suppose you call those who say it's significant nonsense as well. LOL

One could say it's laughable about how people post on this forum to downplay the fact that they own older, less powerful, thicker products.

Sure, but it's a nonsense to call the iPad air a brick, c'mon.....
 
From iPad 3/4 to air ~18% reduction in thickness-> FANTASTIC !GORGEOUS !
From air to air 2 18% reduction in thickness -> RIDICULOUS ! NOT WORTH!
:eek:
 
These is your opinion, mine is different... I'm not a fanboy and in the beginning I thought that this was not that big upgrade because of the modest weight reduction.... Then I went and tried the iPad and the difference is noticeable... Not in strictly term of weight, but in term of sensation....
I'm not trying to take a decision for someone else... I'm only trying to give an advice to someone else.... Maybe you should think more time before writing about rubbish and other things like that, because my opion could be wrong, but also yours could be....
Said that have a nice day with your bricky brick
Bye

My "bricky brick"? What age are you? 6?

The fact remains, and this isn't opinion, that the difference in weight/thickness between the Air 1 and Air 2 is nowhere near the same leap as the iPad 3/4 to the iPad Air 1.

The iPad Air 1 is not a "brick". Grow up.
 
I went from the iPad2 to Air2 and without a doubt it was worth it to me.
(My only disappointment is with the Smart Cases and Smart Covers.)
 
Hmm. My iPad has the serial number on the box

That was a comment that someone made about not being able to tell the serial number because on their Air 2, the serial number wasn't on their box. Not having a box handy as all mine have been recycled, I just commented that it seemed odd that they wouldn't put the serial number on the box, but Apple does things their own way.

As far as what's on the box, many times that I've bought Apple devices, cashiers usually have a problem with the multitude of bar codes on the labels, and that the UPC is so slim...

But anyway...

Smack the guy that I quoted, ok. Let him know that he's wrong... :rolleyes:
 
My "bricky brick"? What age are you? 6?

The fact remains, and this isn't opinion, that the difference in weight/thickness between the Air 1 and Air 2 is nowhere near the same leap as the iPad 3/4 to the iPad Air 1.

The iPad Air 1 is not a "brick". Grow up.

Oh sorry
Are you damaged in the honor? Are you offended? I have only said my rubbish way of thinking! I have grown up... You probably not by not accepting other people opinion ;););)
Have a nice day
 
Oh sorry
Are you damaged in the honor? Are you offended? I have only said my rubbish way of thinking! I have grown up... You probably not by not accepting other people opinion ;););)
Have a nice day

What!?! Are you using Google Translate?!

"Are you damaged in the honor". Pardon?!

You clearly failed to understand the point that the iPad 4 to iPad Air move was the larger one because the entire device changed in size in ALL areas. The device became smaller, the bezels thinner, slightly reduced height, as well as thinner and lighter.

iPad Air 2 is 32 GRAMS lighter than the Air 1, the difference in weight is negligible and the dimensions of both devices are near identical. The Air 1 is still a 1 POUND tablet. A single pound. That is quite simply and factually not a brick.

When I get my own Air 2 next year I'll see whether the thinness is noticeable in day to day use, but the iPad 4 to iPad Air move was the bigger one because of the OVERALL changes to the device, not just thinner and lighter. I've gone from iPad 3 to iPad 4 to iPad Air and will move to iPad Air 2 and hand my wife the Air 1 and my Father in Law the iPad 4 my wife has now.

Yeah, I can afford to upgrade annually and do so ... you really 'damaged my honor' :rolleyes:

And again, the iPad Air is not a "brick", or "brixky brick" to use your nursery school level analogy.
 
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What!?! Are you using Google Translate?!

"Are you damaged in the honor". Pardon?!

You clearly failed to understand the point that the iPad 4 to iPad Air move was the larger one because the entire device changed in size in ALL areas. The device became smaller, the bezels thinner, slightly reduced height, as well as thinner and lighter.

iPad Air 2 is 32 GRAMS lighter than the Air 1, the difference in weight is negligible and the dimensions of both devices are near identical. The Air 1 is still a 1 POUND tablet. A single pound. That is quite simply and factually not a brick.

When I get my own Air 2 next year I'll see whether the thinness is noticeable in day to day use, but the iPad 4 to iPad Air move was the bigger one because of the OVERALL changes to the device, not just thinner and lighter. I've gone from iPad 3 to iPad 4 to iPad Air and will move to iPad Air 2 and hand my wife the Air 1 and my Father in Law the iPad 4 my wife has now.

Yeah, I can afford to upgrade annually and do so ... you really 'damaged my honor' :rolleyes:

And again, the iPad Air is not a "brick", or "brixky brick" to use your nursery school level analogy.


Oh sorry i have made an error...
I intended brick in term of thickness please retread my first post.... After that do you think that air is good fine for me
Do you think air 2 is good fine for me
Do you think that iPad 1 or whatever else is good fine for me
I was only giving my opinion to the thread starter, please don't continue trying to make your reasons!
You are right your is the thruth! Ok?!
Have a nice day;)
P.S. "What age are you?" doesn't sound very good in my opinion, but I'm not very good in English.... Are you trying to say "How old are you?" ?
 
Like all issues, there are a very few number of users proportionately actually reporting these issues. In 1 million units you may have 1000 bad ones, which represents 1/10th of 1% of those sold, but naturally those users are going to complain here, there, and everywhere. Nobody creates threads about their iDevices not having issues.

If you need an iPad, buy what's out there today. For crying out loud the iPad Air 2 just came out and you're talking about waiting for iPad Air 3? That's likely almost a year away. And iPad Pro? I didn't realize there was anything announced regarding it's availability or even likely existence. There will always be a better product coming, that's the nature of technology. Buy the iPad Air 2 if you need\want an iPad now, and if it has issues, that's what the warranty is for.



I have to disagree. If all demo units in an Apple store all have these issues, I don't buy that theory. It looks to me that I will have to play the lottery game with Apple with me sending back multiple units in order to get an iPad Air 2 that is fine.

I hear Apple employees already stating that if you bend an iPhone 6 by wearing it in your pants, than that is your fault. So there is the possibility that Apple will state that you pressed the screen too hard if it breaks and deny warranty for the iPad Air 2.
 
I have to disagree. If all demo units in an Apple store all have these issues, I don't buy that theory. It looks to me that I will have to play the lottery game with Apple with me sending back multiple units in order to get an iPad Air 2 that is fine.

I hear Apple employees already stating that if you bend an iPhone 6 by wearing it in your pants, than that is your fault. So there is the possibility that Apple will state that you pressed the screen too hard if it breaks and deny warranty for the iPad Air 2.

And all the demo units I tested didn't have those issues, so ?
Anecdotal evidence?

Btw an iPhone 6 doesn't bend by keeping in your pants....
 
I have to disagree. If all demo units in an Apple store all have these issues, I don't buy that theory. It looks to me that I will have to play the lottery game with Apple with me sending back multiple units in order to get an iPad Air 2 that is fine.

I hear Apple employees already stating that if you bend an iPhone 6 by wearing it in your pants, than that is your fault. So there is the possibility that Apple will state that you pressed the screen too hard if it breaks and deny warranty for the iPad Air 2.

This is what's wrong with people.
 
I have to disagree. If all demo units in an Apple store all have these issues, I don't buy that theory. It looks to me that I will have to play the lottery game with Apple with me sending back multiple units in order to get an iPad Air 2 that is fine.

I hear Apple employees already stating that if you bend an iPhone 6 by wearing it in your pants, than that is your fault. So there is the possibility that Apple will state that you pressed the screen too hard if it breaks and deny warranty for the iPad Air 2.

Ummm, if you press the screen so hard it breaks, you aren't using it correctly, and it is your fault. No way apple should pay for that.

Damn, are people going to start complaining that it breaks if you run it over with a tank? These things are bullet proof. Don't be an idiot with it, and you'll most likely be okay. Is it only apple forums where people have to complain about the durability of a product they've had no experience with?
 
Ummm, if you press the screen so hard it breaks, you aren't using it correctly, and it is your fault. No way apple should pay for that.

Damn, are people going to start complaining that it breaks if you run it over with a tank? These things are bullet proof. Don't be an idiot with it, and you'll most likely be okay. Is it only apple forums where people have to complain about the durability of a product they've had no experience with?

No it's not my fault. These screen issues appear with normal use and I doubt it's healthy for the display, don't need to use a tank. My iPad 3 nor my iPhone 5S have don't have these issues.

Besides I have owned many iOS devices such as iPod Touches, iPad's and iPhones for many years so I know what is normal and what is not.
 
No it's not my fault. These screen issues appear with normal use and I doubt it's healthy for the display, don't need to use a tank. My iPad 3 nor my iPhone 5S have don't have these issues.

Besides I have owned many iOS devices such as iPod Touches, iPad's and iPhones for many years so I know what is normal and what is not.

I've tried several, and I mean a lot, and I never seen such an issue, unless you INTENTIONALLY try to push hard on the back.
Definitely not normal usage.
 
No it's not my fault. These screen issues appear with normal use and I doubt it's healthy for the display, don't need to use a tank. My iPad 3 nor my iPhone 5S have don't have these issues.

Besides I have owned many iOS devices such as iPod Touches, iPad's and iPhones for many years so I know what is normal and what is not.

How many have you broken under normal usage? How many have you even heard of breaking? They don't break if you use them correctly.

This isn't an issue so much as a trait of an led display. If you press on them, they ripple, but hey don't break unless you put something through them. If you press hard enough to go through the screen it's your own fault.
 
iPad Air 2 worth it?

Im not sure have you understood it correctly. With some ipad air2 you get distortions just when the device is laying on your hands... You dont need to apply any force. I have two, this one cannot produce distortions even when im trying it hard. The other one gets distortions while keeping it on your hand...
 
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The Air 2 is one of the best iPads I've had. And I had them all except the iPad 2. To help resolve the "screen distortion" issue, I bought a clear luvvit rubber case, and it resolves that issue. While I get to keep the iPad protected I also can see the iPad without covering it up. A glass screen protector graces the front and "tadaa" no issues with the distortion. And it doesn't add any bulk, and keeps the screen feeling like it's supposed to.
Overall, the forums is where you will find out what's the issues with what's wrong with devices, because that's what forums are intentionally for. That makes for,smart consumers. But isn't that everything nowadays that's mass produced? Get the Air 2, protect your investment, and enjoy! :apple:
 
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