iPad Air just got old, SplitView only available on the iPad Air 2

[Truefan31]

Absolutely. It really frustrates me, although not as much as it used to... When I was an Apple customer, but found something better, and I would try to explain to them the differences and they just didn't get it... All they knew was what Apple told them, and if Apple didn't feel they were ready for that feature, then the feature wasn't worth having... And then a year later they would be all happy and smug when they were allowed to have that feature that I was telling them about a year or two prior... I would just shake my head at that point.

The iPad is a great device, but it is held back by the software in several key areas, and the reasons are simple... If it didn't have those limitations placed in there, then iPad sales would cut into Macbook sales...

They don't want it to be a computer in tablet form. They want it to be a media consumption device that relies heavily on cloud services. That keeps the sales of it from cannibalizing their laptop sales...

I guess that is what bothers me... I can appreciate it for what it is, but at the same time lament what it could easily become if they just unshackled it.

The Surface series is doing really well, because it bridges the gap between tablet and PC. I would love to see the iPad do the same... dock it and it's a computer that drives a flat screen and has a real keyboard and mouse and usb storage built into the dock... and then pop it out and take it as a tablet on the go...

It sounds like u want a surface. That's great. Ipad isn't for u then. Maybe the rumored ipad pro will satisfy you.

The iPad is what u said, a consumption device. And it's really good at what it does. Every review and my personal hands on with the surface reveals its not great at anything. Not a fully portable tablet, not a fully convenient laptop. It's a mixed bag. It's simple, an iPad is really good at being what it's designed to do, and the MacBook line is really good at what it's designed to do. I hope if the iPad pro does come, that it does a better job than the surface. I think it will.

God forbid Apple release hardware with features its older versions might not get so u can buy them. What are they doing, running a business?

 

[Truefan31]

Absolutely. I am not here to bash Apple, I am actually generally pleased with my iPad Air 2, despite it's shortcomings.

The gripe I have with Apple though, is that because they are so far behind the technology curve, their users often don't see the benefit of things, because they haven't been allowed to use them... For those of us that also have Android devices, we do see the benefit because we have used split screen for a year now. There are lots of things that Apple plans to release, that have been standard features on Android for 1-2 years now... They are just playing catch up.

The real issue though, is that Apple always does these updates in such a way that they force you to upgrade.

Think about it... Android has 81% of the global OS marketshare. Android is not only dominant in the mobile world, it is the most installed OS of *ALL* platforms, which includes PC's, servers, embedded devices, etc...

So how does Apple remain so profitable when the competition pretty much owns the market?

1) By charging premium prices
2) By supporting a model that forces(or strongly encourages) their smaller customer base to upgrade more often

1GB of RAM costs Apple less than $1. Literally. There is no reason why they can't toss an extra dollar's worth of RAM into a $300-$500 tablet. None.

Unless they choose to, so that when the "new" OS comes out, it forces you to want to upgrade to get the features that their competitor had 2 years ago...

Apple makes a great product. But they intentionally cripple it so that their loyal customers will camp out for a week in the snow to get the new device for a premium price.

In a lot of ways, Apple fans don't know what they don't know, to your point of not knowing how useful something is...

On my Note 4, I was able to open an excel spreadsheet and have an email to my boss open at the same time on the screen, so I could read the data and type it into the email without having to keep switching back and forth between apps.

Just like you would on a PC. Would anyone here like it if their Macbook could only display one thing at a time? Hell no. So why settle for that on a tablet, which is just a compact PC?

Android owns the market share because it's basically given away free to oems. All that market share yet Apple has 89% of the mobile profit. Android is on everything from flagships to convenient store phone in a box phones. What's telling is that less than 25% are on lollipop. Even flagships don't get updates immediately.

If you value multitasking as a must have priority then yeah android has plenty of options. The advantage of ios is the overall package. The overall fit/finish, the apps overall are superior, customer support is top notch.

 

[SquireSCA]

One aimed at usability, the other at datamining?

That's another myth, that gets repeated usually by people that don't know any better.

Having both devices here as I have, I could put together a comprehensive list of common tasks and things that Android does in a much simpler, intuitive and better way. I am not talking about performance or features that you will claim that you don't care about, but then suddenly will care about 2 years from now when Apple gets them... No I am talking about the usability that you and many Apple fans reference.

Like the App Store comments, they might have held true half a decade ago, but they are not true any more. Having used and compared the two for many years, and having watched my mom go the iPhone route and my dad for the Droid route, I can give you specific example after example of where Apple's usability isn't anywhere near as good as you think, and in most cases not up to the standard of the competition.

At which point several people here will call me names, accuse me of bashing Apple for pointing out real world differences that cannot be refuted, and then I will be told to get an Android device and to leave...

 

[SquireSCA]

Android owns the market share because it's basically given away free to oems. All that market share yet Apple has 89% of the mobile profit. Android is on everything from flagships to convenient store phone in a box phones. What's telling is that less than 25% are on lollipop. Even flagships don't get updates immediately.

If you value multitasking as a must have priority then yeah android has plenty of options. The advantage of ios is the overall package. The overall fit/finish, the apps overall are superior, customer support is top notch.

Oh yeah, and that's why they make square phones, right? Oh wait...
Half screen on a 16:9 or 8:5 screen would give you an 9:8 or 5:4 aspect ratio on each app. iPad uses 3:2, which I would much rather. Think about it. As I was trying to say, no mobile device uses more square aspect ratios for this reason.

Apple now uses a standard 16:9 ratio on their phones, standard 1080p HD and so on... few years late to the party, but better late than never, right?

But the tablets are still 4:3 and so using split screen on it will make each panel very skinny.

On 16:9, when in portrait mode, you put one above the other, not side by side, which is what Android does.

In landscape mode, then you go side by side.

I have both here, I have compared them, and for split screen, the 16:9 ratio is better suited to split screen than 4:3...

 

[SquireSCA]

It sounds like u want a surface. That's great. Ipad isn't for u then. Maybe the rumored ipad pro will satisfy you.

The iPad is what u said, a consumption device. And it's really good at what it does. Every review and my personal hands on with the surface reveals its not great at anything. Not a fully portable tablet, not a fully convenient laptop. It's a mixed bag. It's simple, an iPad is really good at being what it's designed to do, and the MacBook line is really good at what it's designed to do. I hope if the iPad pro does come, that it does a better job than the surface. I think it will.

God forbid Apple release hardware with features its older versions might not get so u can buy them. What are they doing, running a business?

Again, I have Windows PC's here, a Windows tablet, Windows and Linux laptops, Android tablets and phones and an iPad, and have had several iPhones.

It isn't like I have not used just about everything and compared them...

If I did not have the laptops or my gaming rig, then yes, the Surface 3 Pro or the iPad Pro would probably be ideal, for a price.

Once I recognized that the iPad is just a consumption device, that it isn't a PC in tablet form, then yes, I accept it for what it is and I can reconcile that in my head.

I didn't start this thread. There are countless threads on this forum and others, going back to the first iPad, about not having enough RAM.

Either Apple keeps making the same mistake over, and over, and over again... Or they do it for a reason.

It isn't cost, when 1GB of RAM costs pennies in the quantities that Apple buys chips in. A 1GB chip takes up the same space inside as a 4GB chip. So it isn't that... The difference in power consumption, is barely negligible...

So one is left to assume that the only reason why the PREMIUM tablet has used insufficient RAM in what... 6 or 7 iPads now? More?

They want to hold it back so that you have to update earlier than you would want to. Like you said, they are a business. They like forcing loyal customers who are fans and won't say anything bad about Apple, to keep coughing up $500 every 12 months.

That's ******, IMHO. So whether the tablet is nice or not, is irrelevant. It's very nice for what it is.

But that particular business practice, is lame.

Do you claim that it isn't?

Once is excusable, chalk it up to a learning curve on a new product... But to keep doing it on EVERY tablet, knowing that it is a problem?

 

[newellj]

Really?
Why would it be something else than plain JB and simple string in right .plist?

You didn't say you were looking to do this on a jailbroken device...and in any case, are you certain that the hardware will support this?

 

[SquireSCA]

Android owns the market share because it's basically given away free to oems. All that market share yet Apple has 89% of the mobile profit. Android is on everything from flagships to convenient store phone in a box phones. What's telling is that less than 25% are on lollipop. Even flagships don't get updates immediately.

If you value multitasking as a must have priority then yeah android has plenty of options. The advantage of ios is the overall package. The overall fit/finish, the apps overall are superior, customer support is top notch.

1) There is a lag between when the new version of Android is released, and when it hits a particular flagship phone, and you won't find a more vocal critic of that problem, than I. It is the reason I returned my Droid Turbo and got the Nexus 6. That said, even though flagship devices may be on an older version of Android, iOS hasn't even caught up to that older version in terms of features and performance.

2) I have read recently concerning the "advertising $$" angle of iOS and Apple. Did you know that the difference between them has shrunk down to 6%? Android is catching up there, and will soon pass Apple in that most critical of benchmarks. iOS has led in that area for years, not because of the product, but because their product is marketed as a status symbol, like a Harley, and so you get a different clientele... But like I said, the gap is closing... Just read that study last week in fact...

3) Fit and finish and quality... That too has changed... Have you checked out the Galaxy S6? LG G4? You would be hard pressed to tell the difference between them and an Apple product when it comes to materials, fit and finish, etc... Frankly, I don't know any of my friends that HASN'T had a busted iPhone screen in the past couple years...

There is plenty to gripe about on both sides, and I do so, equally. So don't take it personally if I chime in on someone else's topic and toss my experience, knowledge and observations into the mix...

 

[SquireSCA]

You didn't say you were looking to do this on a jailbroken device...and in any case, are you certain that the hardware will support this?

As long as you have enough memory, the hardware will handle whatever you tell it to do.

You can do slit screen on an original iPad, if you had enough memory to hold both apps in RAM at the same time. There is nothing special about displaying 1 app versus 2, so long as it is programmed properly so that the app can be scaled rather than a fixed resolution...

That is what I am talking about here... The Apple hardware is far better than the software, with the exception of how much RAM it has. If the devices were not intentionally castrated by having too little RAM, any of the iPads released could do split screen.

But Apple wanted a reason for you to abandon your old tablet and buy a new one, so they limited it in such a way that they could offer "new" features that you can only get on the newer stuff, even though the older stuff could run it just fine if they had let it...

Am I really crazy for pointing that out?

 

[nj-morris]

Apple now uses a standard 16:9 ratio on their phones, standard 1080p HD and so on... few years late to the party, but better late than never, right?

But the tablets are still 4:3 and so using split screen on it will make each panel very skinny.

On 16:9, when in portrait mode, you put one above the other, not side by side, which is what Android does.

In landscape mode, then you go side by side.

I have both here, I have compared them, and for split screen, the 16:9 ratio is better suited to split screen than 4:3...

Oh, you're talking about portrait split-screen. Yeah, nobody is going to use that. But even so, it's useful. Have you seen Satire's iPhone 5 parody? It's kind of like that. You don't really have much need to scroll. That's why skinny is good. In my view, the half-half aspect ratio is perfect for say, browsing the web, or checking social media. I just can't see myself doing that with a square aspect ratio.

 

[dyn]

I could put together a comprehensive list of common tasks and things that Android does in a much simpler, intuitive and better way.

You can do that with any operating system and any device. Making a list is the easiest thing one can do. I can even create different lists where Android, iOS, QNX, OpenBSD, Windows 3.11, Windows 10 or any other operating system is on top. Whining about something and creating endless lists are the easiest things you can do. They are mostly also the most pointless things to do as well. Instead of whining, creating lists, etc. you could aim your energy at just getting something that works for you and share that experience with other people because maybe someone else finds it useful.

Most people really don't care who's on top of what list nor do they care about benchmark scores or who was first with a certain feature. Most people are the "no frills" kind: they just want something that works properly and meets their needs. Different people, different needs and different manufacturers trying to fill those needs. All you have to do is do some homework and make a choice.

Btw, it's a myth that you need to have boatloads of memory in order to have a proper functioning device. If that myth were true then devices like a calculator, smartphone, tablet, smartwatch, printer, scanner, home automation system, flight computer, dslr and so on couldn't have existed due to a complete lack of resources. They have almost no computing power at all, yet they are the most vital to our lives. The ordinary computer plays almost no role at all. It's all about how you leverage the available hardware and yes, maybe that's something were Apple could do more...just like all the other OEMs.

Am I really crazy for pointing that out?

It's the way you are trying to point it out. You're being rather desperate and not constructive. It simply does not add anything to this topic.

 

[SquireSCA]

You can do that with any operating system and any device. Making a list is the easiest thing one can do. I can even create different lists where Android, iOS, QNX, OpenBSD, Windows 3.11, Windows 10 or any other operating system is on top. Whining about something and creating endless lists are the easiest things you can do. They are mostly also the most pointless things to do as well. Instead of whining, creating lists, etc. you could aim your energy at just getting something that works for you and share that experience with other people because maybe someone else finds it useful.

Most people really don't care who's on top of what list nor do they care about benchmark scores or who was first with a certain feature. Most people are the "no frills" kind: they just want something that works properly and meets their needs. Different people, different needs and different manufacturers trying to fill those needs. All you have to do is do some homework and make a choice.

Btw, it's a myth that you need to have boatloads of memory in order to have a proper functioning device. If that myth were true then devices like a calculator, smartphone, tablet, smartwatch, printer, scanner, home automation system, flight computer, dslr and so on couldn't have existed due to a complete lack of resources. They have almost no computing power at all, yet they are the most vital to our lives. The ordinary computer plays almost no role at all. It's all about how you leverage the available hardware and yes, maybe that's something were Apple could do more...just like all the other OEMs.


It's the way you are trying to point it out. You're being rather desperate and not constructive. It simply does not add anything to this topic.

I am not talking about an arbitrary list. You said usability. I can point to a bunch of common, everyday tasks that average users do, that today, are actually easier on Android than they are on iOS.

I agree on the it doesn't matter who is on top, in regards to the end user... Get the best tool for the hob, whatever it is.

But I will disagree on the amount of RAM. To a point, yes, more RAM doesn't mean better if the software is crap.

The problem though is that Apple really holds back... Load up your iPad Mini 2 Retina and before you load any apps, you are down to a paltry 300mb of available RAM. Have an app or two running and launch a game and it is sluggish. It's why I got rid of mine.

I have an Android tablet that I got for free, that has 1GB of RAM, and it is the same story. In fact, just loading the OS and processes, has about the same amount of free RAM and it really hurts performance.

On my Android devices with 3GB of RAM, not an issue.

RAM and the OS are the two weak links in the iPad chain.

 

[sracer]

Not me. Apple really pissed me off with this move. iPad Air isn't even 2 years old yet and it's already missing a major OS feature. I was also an early adopter of the original iPad which had an unreported, pitiful 256MB of RAM which led to serious performance issues early in the device's life cycle. I dealt with it an accepted it as a gen 1 quirk until I got my Air. I'm pretty much done with the product at this point though. Splitview should have come earlier and the Air should have had more RAM out of the gate, as it still suffers from app crashes on a regular basis just like my gen 1 device and it already missing a key OS feature. Really unacceptable. Of course people always defend these bare minimum system specs on Apple devices - it doesn't need it they say. Well, soon they will get similarly burned early in their device's lifecycle and maybe they'll see why it should matter to them more than Apple's profit margins.

I hear you. For me it wasn't so much being skunked out of new features, it was having the existing capabilities degraded by a "required" (security issues) iOS upgrade. Apple is pretty tuned in to the pain threshold of their customers. They know pretty well how much they can get away with.

I might consider a Pro if they really deliver something special, otherwise the Air is my last Apple tablet. Apple's products just aren't worth the money anymore, except maybe iPhone.

I've asked quite a few times, what good is paying a premium price to have a device made of "premium materials" that can physically last many years longer than it will function (due to OS and software obsolescence)?

I've been holding on to my iPad 2 and iPad 4, and I'll wait to see what an iPad Air 3 / iPad Pro offers. This will probably be Apple's last chance to win me over to buy another iPad. There are some interesting alternatives waiting in the wings to earn my money.

 

[SquireSCA]

I hear you. For me it wasn't so much being skunked out of new features, it was having the existing capabilities degraded by a "required" (security issues) iOS upgrade. Apple is pretty tuned in to the pain threshold of their customers. They know pretty well how much they can get away with.




I've asked quite a few times, what good is paying a premium price to have a device made of "premium materials" that can physically last many years longer than it will function (due to OS and software obsolescence)?

I've been holding on to my iPad 2 and iPad 4, and I'll wait to see what an iPad Air 3 / iPad Pro offers. This will probably be Apple's last chance to win me over to buy another iPad. There are some interesting alternatives waiting in the wings to earn my money.

Knowing the pain threshold and what they can get away with it is key. So many of their fans don't even know what else is out there. When Apple releases a 2 your old feature as "new", many of them actually think that it is new... And I think that people are so used to getting shafted when the new features force them to upgrade, they just assume that this is how things work...

 

[malih]

But I will disagree on the amount of RAM. To a point, yes, more RAM doesn't mean better if the software is crap.

The problem though is that Apple really holds back... Load up your iPad Mini 2 Retina and before you load any apps, you are down to a paltry 300mb of available RAM. Have an app or two running and launch a game and it is sluggish. It's why I got rid of mine.

I have an Android tablet that I got for free, that has 1GB of RAM, and it is the same story. In fact, just loading the OS and processes, has about the same amount of free RAM and it really hurts performance.

On my Android devices with 3GB of RAM, not an issue.

RAM and the OS are the two weak links in the iPad chain.

I think this is a good read on the RAM story, including supply constraints Apple could be facing if they implement more RAM, which, according to some answers here, they get around with by having more efficient usage of it:
http://www.quora.com/Why-is-the-iPh...ete-with-more-than-2-GB-RAM-of-Android-phones

I don't mind people complaining on forums, but it's always better if you do some reading too and then post links, there's this thing called Google and all that other search engines, stop making yourself sound emotional and even closer to trolling.

 

[SquireSCA]

I think this is a good read on the RAM story, including supply constraints Apple could be facing if they implement more RAM, which, according to some answers here, they get around with by having more efficient usage of it:
http://www.quora.com/Why-is-the-iPh...ete-with-more-than-2-GB-RAM-of-Android-phones

I don't mind people complaining on forums, but it's always better if you do some reading too and then post links, there's this thing called Google and all that other search engines, stop making yourself sound emotional and even closer to trolling.

But it isn't efficient. I can post likes to dozens, if not hundreds of threads on this forum and other apple forums, about this very topic.

If other manufacturers can put in more RAM, so can Apple. If you are just trying to browse the web and have a few tabs open and are getting paid reloads, then you don't have enough RAM.

yes, it will run on less RAM, but like a PC too low on memory where it has the hard drive thrashing with the swap file, it really brings the performance to a crawl. I am reading another thread on this forum and there are a ton of people making the same complaints...

1GB is not enough, and neither is 2GB for that matter.

And they chose those small amounts, to help force upgrades...

 

[malih]

If other manufacturers can put in more RAM, so can Apple.

I see you didn't even take the time to read carefully and understand the link handed to you, and I imagine, much less Google for something.

A very busy man/woman indeed.

 

[SquireSCA]

I see you didn't even take the time to read carefully and understand the link handed to you, and I imagine, much less Google for something.

A very busy man/woman indeed.

I did read it, and I don'y buy it.

Everyone else is doing it. So can Apple, but they choose not to.

The article presumes that Apple could "run out" at current production levels. As if Apple saying, "here is a couple billion dollars in additional orders for you, make more, open a new plant if you have to"... would not have said company giving their proverbial left nut do just that...

The notion that they build something as nice as the iPad, but just can't find anyone to make enough RAM for them, when everyone else seems to be able to, is a rather silly argument.

They don't use more, because if they did, then the mildly updated model they want to sell you next year, would not be as appealing because your current device would have a longer shelf life.

It's all about the money, at your expense.

 

[Truefan31]

Again, I have Windows PC's here, a Windows tablet, Windows and Linux laptops, Android tablets and phones and an iPad, and have had several iPhones.

It isn't like I have not used just about everything and compared them...

If I did not have the laptops or my gaming rig, then yes, the Surface 3 Pro or the iPad Pro would probably be ideal, for a price.

Once I recognized that the iPad is just a consumption device, that it isn't a PC in tablet form, then yes, I accept it for what it is and I can reconcile that in my head.

I didn't start this thread. There are countless threads on this forum and others, going back to the first iPad, about not having enough RAM.

Either Apple keeps making the same mistake over, and over, and over again... Or they do it for a reason.

It isn't cost, when 1GB of RAM costs pennies in the quantities that Apple buys chips in. A 1GB chip takes up the same space inside as a 4GB chip. So it isn't that... The difference in power consumption, is barely negligible...

So one is left to assume that the only reason why the PREMIUM tablet has used insufficient RAM in what... 6 or 7 iPads now? More?

They want to hold it back so that you have to update earlier than you would want to. Like you said, they are a business. They like forcing loyal customers who are fans and won't say anything bad about Apple, to keep coughing up $500 every 12 months.

That's ******, IMHO. So whether the tablet is nice or not, is irrelevant. It's very nice for what it is.

But that particular business practice, is lame.

Do you claim that it isn't?

Once is excusable, chalk it up to a learning curve on a new product... But to keep doing it on EVERY tablet, knowing that it is a problem?

I'm trying to understand your gripe but I still don't get it. Every year new products come out that offer new features older models don't have. Split view afaik is the only feature on iOS 9 that will be iPad Air 2 compatible only. The other features will be for the air/mini 2. Why is this some monumental failure?

I know plenty of people who still rock their 4s and are happy. And they'll get the iOS 9 update too. Earlier than u want to? Who is forcing anyone to buy apple products every year? You don't have to. If u want the latest and greatest, sure go for it but whatever pressure you feel is inside your mind. I'm sorry you're not happy with the iPad. But I bet most consumers are. For its purpose the iPad is regarded as a great tablet. Sounds like you want everything. "They put 2 gb ram oh but what's wrong with 4 gb? Oh so only the newest Apple product gets xxoo?"

Based on your collection of devices I think again you want everything. That's fine. But again this entire forum is a small fraction of a fraction of consumers. If the iPad is the best selling tablet every year imo there's a lot of happy customers.

 

[cynics]

Apple now uses a standard 16:9 ratio on their phones, standard 1080p HD and so on... few years late to the party, but better late than never, right?

But the tablets are still 4:3 and so using split screen on it will make each panel very skinny.

On 16:9, when in portrait mode, you put one above the other, not side by side, which is what Android does.

In landscape mode, then you go side by side.

I have both here, I have compared them, and for split screen, the 16:9 ratio is better suited to split screen than 4:3...

16:9 vs 4:3 will come down to the owners usage. Slide in to look at messages or view a calandar will be skinnier on 4:3 but not enough to distract from its merits.

I've used Android tablets since the Xoom (first Android tablet) and its aspect ratio is what eventually led me to the iPad (kicking and screaming I might add).

I said it's based on the owners usage because of the video standard 16:9 however that is the only thing 16:9 benefits. Everything you do 4:3 typically shines. Just look at the windows opened on any given computer desktop, very high chances the user has closer to a 4:3 aspect.

Even basic things like web browsing, it's just what works. Take a look at this image I took. Notice the white bars on the sides? See how small the text is? If I zoomed in a lose a ton of content off the bottom of the screen. Rotate it into portrait and its just as bad, text turns to fine print because it's so skinny. At work I use electrical schematics usually in PDF format and it was terrible. In landscape I was constantly scrolling up and down losing the circuit I was tracing, in portrait it was too small.

 

[malih]

I like the way Rene Ritchie put it:

That's what makes the Internet so funny: When Apple doesn't increase specs, they're failing to innovate, doomed, or being cheap.

When they do, they're trying to obsolete older devices, or otherwise being jerks.

Neither strike me as reasoned positions.

 

[Uofmtiger]

I like the way Rene Ritchie put it:

The only reasonable solution is that Apple provide a free exchange for every new release (not just the iPad). You simply walk in the store with an Original iPad, for example, and they give you a new iPad Air 2 (3, 4, 5, etc..) free of charge. Yep, sounds like a smart business model.

 

[SquireSCA]

I'm trying to understand your gripe but I still don't get it. Every year new products come out that offer new features older models don't have. Split view afaik is the only feature on iOS 9 that will be iPad Air 2 compatible only. The other features will be for the air/mini 2. Why is this some monumental failure?

I know plenty of people who still rock their 4s and are happy. And they'll get the iOS 9 update too. Earlier than u want to? Who is forcing anyone to buy apple products every year? You don't have to. If u want the latest and greatest, sure go for it but whatever pressure you feel is inside your mind. I'm sorry you're not happy with the iPad. But I bet most consumers are. For its purpose the iPad is regarded as a great tablet. Sounds like you want everything. "They put 2 gb ram oh but what's wrong with 4 gb? Oh so only the newest Apple product gets xxoo?"

Based on your collection of devices I think again you want everything. That's fine. But again this entire forum is a small fraction of a fraction of consumers. If the iPad is the best selling tablet every year imo there's a lot of happy customers.

They will get the new OS with degraded performance and lacking features.

It is hard explaining to Apple fans, because they don't really see the limits that are imposed to them. To them, it is status quo... If you grew up in a cave and were used to that, you probably wouldn't see anything wrong with it... It would be normal to you.

And with iPad sales dropping dramatically and other tabs increasing substantially, I don't think I am alone in my views. The majority of the folks in this thread, are annoyed. As they are in many others...

 

[SquireSCA]

The only reasonable solution is that Apple provide a free exchange for every new release (not just the iPad). You simply walk in the store with an Original iPad, for example, and they give you a new iPad Air 2 (3, 4, 5, etc..) free of charge. Yep, sounds like a smart business model.

Understand, that no device is supported forever... However, in almost every case an existing android device is updated to the new OS, performance increases with the addition of the new features... The OS unleashes more of the phone, extends the life of it.

With Apple, it is typically the opposite. It usually slows it down while withholding features.

 

[Truefan31]

Understand, that no device is supported forever... However, in almost every case an existing android device is updated to the new OS, performance increases with the addition of the new features... The OS unleashes more of the phone, extends the life of it.

With Apple, it is typically the opposite. It usually slows it down while withholding features.

You're saying that android updates increases performance on older android phones vs ios? I def disagree with that. And that's even if those android phones get the update to begin with.

 

[SquireSCA]

How many android phones do you own and have owned over the years?

I have had a lot... Plus several tablets. New versions of the OS typically increased performance and features are not usually left out. Android has added features, while optimizing it for use on lower end devices.