iPad and MacBook Models With OLED Displays Rumored to Launch in 2022

[retta283]

Looking forward to menu bar burn-in, just like my old CRT Macs.

My Dock has been stuck in one of my old screens for years, for a long time I hid my Dock due to that

 

[MICHAELSD]

Just as long as it has a reasonable amount of flickering....The PWM on the iPhone 12 mini drives me nuts (by which I mean hurts my head and eyes).

Considering the amount of people I see mention this that haven’t been in the “eye strain” threads, I’m sure the sensitivity to PWM flickering is more widespread and problematic than Apple realizes.

 

[CWallace]

One thing I don't get about OLEDs is why there's really tiny OLED displays, really huge OLED displays, but nothing in the middle.

Nobody makes an OLED TV below 50 or so inches, for example. This annoyed me because I needed to buy a TV around 42" and really wanted to get OLED but had no luck finding one.

Meanwhile phones and watches? TINY OLED displays.

What's the challenge in making medium-sized (12-48") OLED displays that there's just NOTHING in that segment?

The largest constraint is the "mother glass" panels that OLEDs are cut from. The glass size defines how many display panels you can cut and how much glass you waste. LG's mother glass for televisions, for example, is optimized for 55" (6 panels). That glass only can make 3 65" panels so it wastes glass. It can also make 2 each of 77" and 48", but the production costs are higher since you only get two panels of each.

I am guessing LG has found a way to use some of that wasted glass for smaller panels - like the recently announced 32" 32EP950 4K monitor. But production volume will likely be low so the prices will be high.

I expect the Apple Watch and iPhone use smaller mother glass optimized to make as many displays as possible.

The way to go is MicroLED.

Indeed it is once the technology has consumer-friendly prices and not the six-figures current displays cost.

Maybe burn-in can be handled 100% with software. The software just doesn't allow it to happen?

OLED televisions use pixel-shifting and panel refreshing to minimize burn-in, so I expect we will see similar in an OLED iPad / Mac display.

If only there were another solution, more practical and without the burn in drawbacks of OLED...why would Apple consider OLED when the next step is MicroLED?

Price. Consumer MicroLED is still locked into large (multiple-meter) televisions with six-figure price tags due to the current state of the panel technology.

Can Someone explain this mess in rumors? Would Apple release miniLed one year to switch to OLED next year? Is it just work of Apple rumor mill department?

I am guessing that MiniLED will go into the "consumer" products (iPad / MacBook Air) and OLED will either be standard or a BTO upgrade from standard MiniLED for the "prosumer" productions (iPad Pro / MacBook Pro).

 

[HandITOVER]

SMH.

 

[Chlloret]

Samsung Tablets come for a long time with OLED displays and seem to have no issues. I have a 3 year old Tab4 in permanent use, it shows camera feeds 24/7, no burn ins after 3 (or four?) years, for a normal use Tablet at least 3 times that.
2 years ago we got a very cheap Chinese Tablet to test(10.5", 2560x1600, super amoled, 4GB/128GB, fingerprint blah blah) for $200. Runs great, amazing screen. Alldocube x. Including case and keyboard.
But OLED is cheap.
my 12mini is a vast improvement over the SE2 I had. Only bought it for the size but will last me now for years. Pretty perfect. No idea what this PWM issue is, I tried everything but can't get the screen to flicker.

 

[avtella]

Samsung Tablets come for a long time with OLED displays and seem to have no issues. I have a 3 year old Tab4 in permanent use, it shows camera feeds 24/7, no burn ins after 3 (or four?) years, for a normal use Tablet at least 3 times that.
2 years ago we got a very cheap Chinese Tablet to test(10.5", 2560x1600, super amoled, 4GB/128GB, fingerprint blah blah) for $200. Runs great, amazing screen. Alldocube x. Including case and keyboard.
But OLED is cheap.
my 12mini is a vast improvement over the SE2 I had. Only bought it for the size but will last me now for years. Pretty perfect. No idea what this PWM issue is, I tried everything but can't get the screen to flicker.

Galaxy Tab 4 uses an LCD display... The S4 is the one with OLED.

 

[Chlloret]

Galaxy Tab 4 uses an LCD display... The S4 is the one with OLED.

Then its an S4? It says super Amoled on it. 10.5", 4G. It is from 2019 I was told. Thought it is older.

 

[haleyp]

MiniLEd is LCD with miniLED backlighting for fine grain brightness control.
Confusing name.

I wasn't confused, But I could have said "conventional LCD" (versus miniLED). On second thought there probably is some benefit to miniLED for text, if there is text on part of the screen and the backlight is max brightness only for that area of the screen. On a sunny beach perfect blacks don't matter, but bright letters does. Still, reading white on black I'd rather have an OLED with a heatsink to distribute the heat of the few pixels turned on max to distribute their heat to the majority of the pixels which are unpowered at a given time.