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I'll bet there's going to be a LOT of refurbs :D

note: But, maybe Apple will think they actually are defective?
I doubt that, but you never know.

curious

Of course not, I guess >95% of returned iPads by forum lurkers are not defective at all. Tests have shown that the new iPads are closer to a perfectly calibrated display than any other tablet screens out there. But people on here still seem to want blue colored whites, low contrast screens. Those are the ones which are defective, that's why it takes some people 15-20 swaps to get one of those blue-defective units.

So all these returned devices will be refurbs, of course. And if you buy a new, retail iPad in the coming weeks and decide to swap it, you are most likely to receive a refurbished iPad that someone has returned just recently. Congratulations, you just turned your brandnew, sparkly, pristine iPad into an old iPad that some germ-infected geek (don't we all, incl. me, fit this description?) has returned 2 weeks prior, well done.

I'd rather keep it pristine & awesome, but that's just me.
 
My iPad have NO problems. NO dead pixels, NO yellow tint issue etc.
My friends iPads have NO problems. NO dead pixels, NO yellow tint issue etc.
My fathers iPad have NO problems. NO dead pixels, NO yellow tint issue etc.
My mothers iPad have NO problems. NO dead pixels, NO yellow tint issue etc.
The 20+ iPads we have at work have NO problems. NO dead pixels, NO yellow tint issue etc.

So... the iPad does NOT have yellow tint issues.

One thing is sure, you're not Vulcan. "My stuff doesn't have any defects, therefore no one else can have defects" , what kind of logic is that? Ever seen a yellow and a blue iPad on display in a Apple store? if not, then they are not supposed to be yellow.
 
Of course not, I guess >95% of returned iPads by forum lurkers are not defective at all. Tests have shown that the new iPads are closer to a perfectly calibrated display than any other tablet screens out there. But people on here still seem to want blue colored whites, low contrast screens. Those are the ones which are defective, that's why it takes some people 15-20 swaps to get one of those blue-defective units.

So all these returned devices will be refurbs, of course. And if you buy a new, retail iPad in the coming weeks and decide to swap it, you are most likely to receive a refurbished iPad that someone has returned just recently. Congratulations, you just turned your brandnew, sparkly, pristine iPad into an old iPad that some germ-infected geek (don't we all, incl. me, fit this description?) has returned 2 weeks prior, well done.

I'd rather keep it pristine & awesome, but that's just me.

I wouldn't at all be surprised by this. it's clearly mass hysteria.
Never underestimate the herd mentality of people. Everyone is totally out of control :D . But then again, who knows, these kids could be right.

Who knows. All I know is that mine looks good, and i'm not going to look at another one to compare. Frankly, I don't do that with anything, tech or otherwise, as it's asking for trouble.
 
Of course not, I guess >95% of returned iPads by forum lurkers are not defective at all. Tests have shown that the new iPads are closer to a perfectly calibrated display than any other tablet screens out there. But people on here still seem to want blue colored whites, low contrast screens. Those are the ones which are defective, that's why it takes some people 15-20 swaps to get one of those blue-defective units.

If the entire screen is yellow, then sure, but please don't imply that iPads where half of the screen is yellow or green (my experience with 4 iPad 3s) are not defective. I would kill for a yellow screened iPad as long as the color is uniform, but I've yet to find one like that. :(
 
If the entire screen is yellow, then sure, but please don't imply that iPads where half of the screen is yellow or green (my experience with 4 iPad 3s) are not defective. I would kill for a yellow screened iPad as long as the color is uniform, but I've yet to find one like that. :(

I completely agree! I also have a new iPad that has the uneven temp (nice color on the left side and yellow on the right of when in portrait - home button on bottom) and it's distracting and puts a big ding in the overall value of it now for me and down the line when and if I'm going to sell it when the new NEW iPad comes out. Trying the "burn" in with full brightness, screen always on, with white pic for a few days and smothering it in a pillow to symbolizing me "killing" the yellow lol. It's mostly noticeable when you view the keyboard in split mode. Half is grey/blue and the other is dirty/yellow. Still no change but staying hopeful. If it doesn't clear up in the next week this suckers going back and not sure if I'm going to try my luck again for another few months.
 
I hope you guys can find a unit that you find acceptable. The more I use the iPad the more amazed I become at how sharp and vivid this screen is.
 
I had the same issue with the new iPad, the left side looks warm than the right side. easpecially the up left corner.
 
Of course not, I guess >95% of returned iPads by forum lurkers are not defective at all. Tests have shown that the new iPads are closer to a perfectly calibrated display than any other tablet screens out there. But people on here still seem to want blue colored whites, low contrast screens. Those are the ones which are defective, that's why it takes some people 15-20 swaps to get one of those blue-defective units.

So all these returned devices will be refurbs, of course. And if you buy a new, retail iPad in the coming weeks and decide to swap it, you are most likely to receive a refurbished iPad that someone has returned just recently. Congratulations, you just turned your brandnew, sparkly, pristine iPad into an old iPad that some germ-infected geek (don't we all, incl. me, fit this description?) has returned 2 weeks prior, well done.

I'd rather keep it pristine & awesome, but that's just me.

There are no refurbs yet! It's too early in the production cycle. Plus, If one returns their iPad to Apple, it is sent off and completely refurbed...issue investigated and solved, new aluminium backing etc, so I doubt you with all your wisdom would be able to tell the difference 'when' the replacements in the brown boxes start being refurbs rather than straight from the factory (which they currently are)! Ridiculous statement to make, let's hope you were just joking! Do you really believe Apple just box the returned iPad up and re-sell it? LoL- come on!!
(...and i know this because I have witnessed it with my own eyes- returned products are sent off from the store to be refurbished so your theory is flawed completely)
 
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There are no refurbs yet! It's too early in the production cycle. Plus, If one returns their iPad to Apple, it is sent off and completely refurbed...issue investigated and solved, new aluminium backing etc, so I doubt you with all your wisdom would be able to tell the difference 'when' the replacements in the brown boxes start being refurbs rather than straight from the factory (which they currently are)! Ridiculous statement to make, let's hope you were just joking!
(...and i know this because I have witnessed it with my own eyes- returned products are sent off from the store to be refurbished so your theory is flawed completely)

I've never disputed the fact that returned units will be shipped out first, inspected, faulty components exchanged, and thoroughly cleaned. This should be very common knowledge to everybody.

After that, those units go straight back to the shops to serve ss replacement units.

And no, 'yellow' screens will NOT qualify as defects back in the lab. The returned units will be tested using component stress software, the battery will be tested as well as all buttons, jacks and connectors. If no errors will actually be present in >90% of units returned by forum lurkers here, these exact units will be your part of the brown boxes you seem to like to take as exchange for your new iPad.

Also, first refurbs usually arrive at stores approx. 1 month after release, so expect first refurbs to be in store by this week. First, they'll just serve as replacement units, in a few weeks you'll be able to purchase them in the store.
 
I've never disputed the fact that returned units will be shipped out first, inspected, faulty components exchanged, and thoroughly cleaned. This should be very common knowledge to everybody.

After that, those units go straight back to the shops to serve ss replacement units.

And no, 'yellow' screens will NOT qualify as defects back in the lab. The returned units will be tested using component stress software, the battery will be tested as well as all buttons, jacks and connectors. If no errors will actually be present in >90% of units returned by forum lurkers here, these exact units will be your part of the brown boxes you seem to like to take as exchange for your new iPad.

Also, first refurbs usually arrive at stores approx. 1 month after release, so expect first refurbs to be in store by this week. First, they'll just serve as replacement units, in a few weeks you'll be able to purchase them in the store.

6-8 weeks is a little more a accurate for refurbs to be handed out as replacements at the genius bar. For sale on the Apple online store, a much longer time period. Try July/August. You can let me know when you see the first online refurb available! (Currently demand is too high to offer discounted refurbs)...so happy waiting!
I am merely addressing your claim that the refurbs will be noticeable to the customer, they are not visually different, and certainly no 'geek' prints or germs.
 
I remember one of my friends who was the first one i know to buy a iPad 3 asked me (holding his new iPad3 and his old iPad1 in his hands) "Can you see which one is the New iPad", to which i said "The Yellow One?"

and yea, it was pretty obvious that the screen had a noticeable yellow tint on the entire display. He did eventually return it.
This problem seem to have haunted many of Apples handheld devices and with the "New iPad" being no execption.


I have ordered mine but i just hope that i get one without Wifi or Screen issues.

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6-8 weeks is a little more a accurate for refurbs to be handed out as replacements at the genius bar. For sale on the Apple online store, a much longer time period. Try July/August. You can let me know when you see the first online refurb available! (Currently demand is too high to offer discounted refurbs)...so happy waiting!
I am merely addressing your claim that the refurbs will be noticeable to the customer, they are not visually different, and certainly no 'geek' prints or germs.

Of course you are not going to be able to tell whether it is refurbished or not, sometimes the Genius will tell you whether it is or not. Just be assured that it takes about 4 weeks for a returned unit to be back in the store fully refurbished. Those will be in-store replacements. If there's more than enough supply of refurbished units to satisfy swap-happy customers, the rest will go up for sale.

Judging by these forums, the demand for swapped units will be quite high. So a swapped unit next week will very likely be a unit someone swapped during launch week. That's just how it is. Nothing wrong with it.
 
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I've never disputed the fact that returned units will be shipped out first, inspected, faulty components exchanged, and thoroughly cleaned. This should be very common knowledge to everybody.

..... And no, 'yellow' screens will NOT qualify as defects back in the lab. .....

So if Apple receives an iPad with a defective home button, and the screen happens to be blue-white, Apple will replace the defective screen with a yellow one; correct?
 
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I guess >95% of returned iPads by forum lurkers are not defective at all. Tests have shown that the new iPads are closer to a perfectly calibrated display than any other tablet screens out there. But people on here still seem to want blue colored whites, low contrast screens. Those are the ones which are defective, that's why it takes some people 15-20 swaps to get one of those blue-defective units.

Bottom line and end of story.
 
So if Apple receives an iPad with a defective home button, and the screen happens to be blue-white, Apple will replace the defective screen with a yellow one; correct?

Of course, if it's not within their specifications, it will be replaced. If it's deemed functional, it will be re-used.
 
Of course, if it's not within their specifications, it will be replaced. If it's deemed functional, it will be re-used.
Do you know what Apple's screen spec is? Surely both yellow and blue/white screens can't fall into an acceptable screen spec for Apple.
 
Do you know what Apple's screen spec is? Surely both yellow and blue/white screens can't fall into an acceptable screen spec for Apple.

They have a typically secret spec. They won't tell you what it is, but they'll tell you yours falls within it more often than not. Makes it tricky to argue with them, which of course is exactly what they want.
 
Mine works great
You said your ipad "works great". Yeah sure most ipads work... but that doesn't mean screens are perfect. Nobody is interested that iPad "works" ,it's irrelevant.

I bet your screen has some sort of tints, meaning even tint. The corner and near the edge of the screen is dim too I bet... Oh wait, you might have a couple of specks of dust and a stuck pixel... Oh wait you might have LED exposure too right under the screen bezel...

You may have some or all of these problems and pretending you don't have problems and claim "it works fine". You got 2 negative reps. Good job.
 
They have a typically secret spec. They won't tell you what it is, but they'll tell you yours falls within it more often than not. Makes it tricky to argue with them, which of course is exactly what they want.

Tell me again why I should buy an iPad?
 
iPad 3 display tint

I have noticed darker tint right along left edge in portrait mode so went to Apple store to exchange. First, I took my iPad out and compared to the display model and this is when I noticed my display was yellowish. So I compared it with the 3 display models and same story. I was there with a colleague and he could not believe it. The difference was quite significant. Went to Genius bar and the lady said their iPad displays are different as they have special image installed. I said that is not possible. She said "trust me, they are different". So she took my iPad and when she came back she said she checked with 3 other employees and they did not see the difference. So I returned it - iPad3 64GB wifi.
Looks like there are 2 models and Apple should offer them as warm, yellow tint model and colder, bluish tint model. If Apple could acknowledge at their iPad 3 media event that the different tints are within the norm - I am fine with that.
But as it is, I am under the impression that all displays should be uniform. This is very disappointing and yet another bad experience at the Genius Bar.

iPod classic
iPad2
Ipad3 (not anymore)
iPhone 4
MBP 15 anti-glare
MB white uni-body
 
I've been thru a couple (no not returns etc) and I find they all are somewhat unique in varying shades of yellow. Non I would call faulty, merely what you're used to seeing as "white". Most people would be none the wiser have they not compared. Mine has a yellowish tinge compared to my iPad 2, but then having had this one for a while I think the ipad2 may have been too blue. Your eyes adjust to the white point and that becomes your reference point. I must say the yellowish iPads definitely had a white-er white then mine but then other colors seem to lack the vividness. Apple might be tring to do the right thing here with a warmer white, but the issue is that people aren't used to it and some (here) will complain.

My other one (brothers) is slightly warmer then mine but his has a greenish tinge to one side. He hasn't said anything so I assume he hasn't noticed or cares. Ignorance is bliss here.
 
My brown box replacement!

This is my second 32G LTE ipad. First one had pink tint on one side. I think I found a winner. I've waited to exchange for the past 2 weeks for another 32G LTE but they were sold out in 7 of my surrounding apple stores so apple genius gave me brown box replacement.

What do you think of these photos? I took 2 pics of the apple homepage flipping the ipad on both sides.

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This is my second 32G LTE ipad. First one had pink tint on one side. I think I found a winner. I've waited to exchange for the past 2 weeks for another 32G LTE but they were sold out in 7 of my surrounding apple stores so apple genius gave me brown box replacement.

What do you think of these photos? I took 2 pics of the apple homepage flipping the ipad on both sides.

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Those look preety normal to me(FREE FROM THE YELLOW TINT, IF THAT IS WHAT U WANNA KNOW :) ) But somehow they look very dim have u reduced the brightness a little too mcuh ?
 
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