Fwiw I do believe I see it now, not as dramatic as the slow mo video, but I see it
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iPad Mini 6 Users Complain of 'Jelly Scrolling' Issue in Portrait Orientation
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It is a non issue because it is a limitation of all LCDs and other displays that refresh line by line.. bottom line is if it bothers you you don’t have to buy it and if you already bought it you can still return it.. no one is forcing you to accept it…. So hence a non issue! Buy some other device that has limitations you can deal with.
People who have an older Mini; is the jelly in Landscape on the old Mini's less noticeable than the jelly in portrait on the new Mini? I do NOT mean less noticeable because you use landscape less, but is it less noticeable when in landscape than the Mini 6's jelly is in portrait? Pretend you use the other Mini's mostly in Landscape and the Mini 6 mostly in Portrait; which is worse?
Because I'm mostly a landscape user, but it still is absolutely nauseating to me when using Portrait. Is landscape on the older Mini's that bad? I'm not going to go buy an older Mini but I think I'm going to return it and wait until the next iteration of the Mini or perhaps they will switch the newer mini 6's so that the jelly is in landscape instead. Is the Jelly in landscape on the old iPads as unbearable as it is in portrait on the mini 6?
Because I'm mostly a landscape user, but it still is absolutely nauseating to me when using Portrait. Is landscape on the older Mini's that bad? I'm not going to go buy an older Mini but I think I'm going to return it and wait until the next iteration of the Mini or perhaps they will switch the newer mini 6's so that the jelly is in landscape instead. Is the Jelly in landscape on the old iPads as unbearable as it is in portrait on the mini 6?
You are missing the point here. Images are rendered from top to bottom. On mini 4, you don't dee this in portrait mode but in landscape mode when the top becomes left and bottom becomes right, you see left side rendering faster than the right side.
However on the mini 6, the display is rotated. What used to be on top in mini 4 is at the right in mini 6 and the bottom is at the left. Thats why you see it rendering from right to left.
And I can even see it on the iPhone XR now (in landscape) or is it just my eyes...
I will admit it is less noticeable on my mini 5 and 4 in landscape but it is not that it is doing it any less, just because your eye has less time to perceive it in the smaller landscape space. I will also add that you probably would have never noticed it on your older iPads until this conversation
No I’m not missing any points here at all.
Try to read some more my posts as I have covered this all extensively
Which is literally all that matters…
Apple changed the orientation and now it’s super noticeable
That literally is the distillation of the issue here
Your eyes are not deceiving you friend! Think of it more as your eyes have been opened to something that has always existed. And your assessment of the orientation is accurate
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Honestly… it isn’t an issue, I would never read while scrolling anyway. Why would you. The normal action is to scroll up a little then read then scroll a little more and then read some more. This is much ado about nothing. Every device is a exercise and balance in making a usable product and tradeoffs to keep a item somewhat affordable. Can a display be made that updates all the scan lines at once? to some degree yes….. but that display would be absolutely to expensive to put in a consumer grade product.. your iPad mini would cost $4000 dollars. That is why the “jelly” effect is present in most displays, cost.
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Oh you know... a pilot in the cockpit needing to scroll a chart vertically
Did you notice how Apple prominently advertised that pilots love the iPad mini?
On my mini 3, it’s there but not as bad. If the mini 6 is a 9/10 in terms of jelly badness, the older mini is more like a 5/10. Still noticeable but not as extreme.
I would be very upset if my pilot was watching the scrolling of his display while he was flying my plane…… again gets to the info he is looking for and looks at it……. Not an issue
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Yes, I did sign up to comment on this topic…… because there was a lot of miss information being shared and I had real answers…. If you choose to take opposition with me that’s fine, but my statements are still accurate ….. and you still have a choice to return yours or not buy it. My life goes on no matter what you think of me or what I say
Well - I appreciate the laugh
Thanks for chiming in with your "real answers" and countering all the "miss information"
Bottom line folks…. If this hardware limitation bothers you and is not something you can live with… then don’t buy the product or if you have already bought it, return it. Just know that with all products, especially electronics, there are always trade offs….. it is always in your power to choose what you are willing to deal with.
It is not as noticeable on the older Minis in Landscape (I have one of each, a Mini 2 and a Mini 6).
There is also a technical reason why it is not as bad in landscape:
The sequential scan of the 60Hz display means that one end of each line of text is refreshed 1/60th second later than the other end of the line of text.
When the line of text is moving upward at a certain speed, this translates into a certain distance the one end of text lags the other end of text.
Divide this lag distance by the length of the line of text, gives you the slant angle.
Now because the lines of text are longer in landscape than in portrait, it means the slant angle is less in landscape jelly scrolling (Mini 2 thru 5) than in portrait jelly scrolling (Mini 6).
What is making the Mini 6 especially bad is that it has a high aspect ratio (as well as portrait jelly scrolling), exacerbating the slant angle further.
TL,DR: no.
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Have a look at the comments on the today's MacRumors article, Apple Says 'Jelly Scrolling' on iPad Mini 6 is Normal Behavior for LCD Screens.
Would you still describe them as "informed analysis"?
Are all of the comments amazing and informed analysis?
Of course not - no way.
There's a bunch of ill informed speculation in the Ars comments on this also. Different demographics at each site, but each with strengths and weaknesses also.
Despite all this, we've gotten to mostly ground truth on this issue though -- it certainly helped with Apple commenting publicly also.
Hope you are right, but I have to wonder why a software issue would only affect some of the new minis. My husband and I have not seen this effect at all on ours. I’m sure it is incredibly annoying and a dealbreaker!