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It's just shocking to me that the entry price for an iPad Mini would be $50 less than an iPod Touch...:confused:
 
It's just shocking to me that the entry price for an iPad Mini would be $50 less than an iPod Touch...:confused:

You don't have to pay for tiny components. You can get larger ones cheaper. It costs to make things as small as the iPod touch is.
 
Apple iPad mini appears in Media Markt inventory in cellular and WiFi flavors, $250-650 price range


http://m.engadget.com/2012/10/14/apple-ipad-mini-price-models/?icid=eng_latest_art

I guess I'll go for the 8gb

Do you think 8GB is enough? You'll probably have about 6.7GB of usable space for apps and content. Remember many apps now include bundled retina artwork and use a lot more space for everyone as a result.

If they are pushing this for books and digital magazines, then you'll run out of space in no time, particularly with mags. Some of the digital magazine editions are 500MB to 1GB in size.
 
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You don't have to pay for tiny components. You can get larger ones cheaper. It costs to make things as small as the iPod touch is.

yeah it costs a lot more to fit 4000 die on a 300mm wafer than it does 2500 die. :rolleyes:
 
In my 16gb iPhone 5

I have about 4.6gb of free space & that's only because I have music on there most of it is music , no video

I won't be putting any games or music/video on the mini
Just regular apps & I stream everything else

I'm using 6.4gb of music on my iPhone
 
I guess I'll go for the 8gb
The 8GB version is the one that makes me feel this entire story is inaccurate. 8GB for an iPad just seems way too small for what an iPad can actually do (and for the price)
 
they should have done 16 and 32 and 64. with the 16gb the same cost of what they would price the 8gb. its a media consumption device and not being able to do most of what you could do on a model with more space destroys the entire point of having it.
 
they should have done 16 and 32 and 64. with the 16gb the same cost of what they would price the 8gb. its a media consumption device and not being able to do most of what you could do on a model with more space destroys the entire point of having it.

You can always stream to it if you're at home - and when on the move, you can even play videos from an SD card, assuming you jailbreak.

Back to the subject: if it has the A6, I'll get it too.
 
If this is real and translates directly to US$, i could see how it would work. This way you have the low entry price of $250 to grab headlines and compete with the Kindle Fire and Nexus 7. Yet Apple's bottom line is still protected because a lot of people will see the limitations of 8GB and step up to the 16 GB at $349, as opposed to the recently guessed $299 entry price.

For my uses, I think I could get by just fine with 8GB. I wouldn't need to put any music or movies on it as I would stream everything and I don't really play many games on my iPad 1.


I'm not buying those models. My guess is they are just place holders in an inventory system, however time will tell.

This was my first thought as well. How many times have we seen these kind of things pop up in Best Buy's computer and they were total guesses.
 
It's just shocking to me that the entry price for an iPad Mini would be $50 less than an iPod Touch...:confused:

Why should it be confusing?

1. These are two different device categories.
2. Miniaturized components actually cost more than their "full sized" counterparts. Just look at the cost of 2.5" HDDs vs. 3.5" HDDs.

Do you think 8GB is enough? You'll probably have about 6.7GB of usable space for apps and content. Remember many apps now include bundled retina artwork and use a lot more space for everyone as a result.

If they are pushing this for books and digital magazines, then you'll run out of space in no time, particularly with mags. Some of the digital magazine editions are 500MB to 1GB in size.

The 8GB version is the one that makes me feel this entire story is inaccurate. 8GB for an iPad just seems way too small for what an iPad can actually do (and for the price)

Not if all you're using it for is to surf the web, stream music/video, and a handful of apps/books. I bet there are people who don't even need that much.

On the other hand, 16GB NAND chips are dirt cheap nowadays. I bet OEMs like Apple can get them for less than $5 apiece with massive orders, so I don't even get why Apple would strive to save that little unless they're planning it as an "upgrade" for future gens.
 
Not if all you're using it for is to surf the web, stream music/video, and a handful of apps/books. I bet there are people who don't even need that much.

On the other hand, 16GB NAND chips are dirt cheap nowadays. I bet OEMs like Apple can get them for less than $5 apiece with massive orders, so I don't even get why Apple would strive to save that little unless they're planning it as an "upgrade" for future gens.
Youre right. I guess when it comes to a machine that is built around compromise then you need to hammer in a price point so if 8GB gives them a "starting at $250" tagline then a lot of people would flock to it.
 
Sorry but I just don't buy this. Apple has real problems containing supply chain leaks but they do not need to advise third party sellers of the retail price - esp since supply will be constrained to Apple in the first instance... then resellers.

The 100 euro step up from 8 to 16Gb is not plausible Even the Nexus was a fraction of this step-up (and a lot of that was profit).

So this whole story is BS.

I hope it did not get folk too excited.

The entry price will be $299.
 
I just looked up German Apple Store prices to get an idea of what that would convert to in U.S. pricing. Prices seem to be about the same, where 1 Euro = 1 USD, since the German prices include VAT and europeans generally get screwed with electronics pricing.

It should be something like this in the US:

iPad mini Wi-Fi 8GB: US$ 249
iPad mini Wi-Fi 16GB: US$ 349
iPad mini Wi-Fi 32GB: US$ 449
iPad mini Wi-Fi 64GB: US$ 549

iPad mini Wi-Fi + Cellular 8GB: US$ 349
iPad mini Wi-Fi + Cellular 16GB: US$ 449
iPad mini Wi-Fi + Cellular 32GB: US$ 549
iPad mini Wi-Fi + Cellular 64GB: US$ 649

If true, I'd be surprised since the margin would be next to none on the 8GB model and huge on bigger models. $249 for the base model seems too low to me and paying $100 for an extra 8GB of storage is weird as well.
 
I just looked up German Apple Store prices to get an idea of what that would convert to in U.S. pricing. Prices seem to be about the same, where 1 Euro = 1 USD, since the German prices include VAT and europeans generally get screwed with electronics pricing.

It should be something like this in the US:

iPad mini Wi-Fi 8GB: US$ 249
iPad mini Wi-Fi 16GB: US$ 349
iPad mini Wi-Fi 32GB: US$ 449
iPad mini Wi-Fi 64GB: US$ 549

iPad mini Wi-Fi + Cellular 8GB: US$ 349
iPad mini Wi-Fi + Cellular 16GB: US$ 449
iPad mini Wi-Fi + Cellular 32GB: US$ 549
iPad mini Wi-Fi + Cellular 64GB: US$ 649
.

And

iPod touch 32Gb US$ 299
iPod touch 64Gb US$ 399


Does this make sense ? So the smallest tablet is 8Gb and the smallest touch is 32Gb... I don't think so.
 
And

iPod touch 32Gb US$ 299
iPod touch 64Gb US$ 399


Does this make sense ? So the smallest tablet is 8Gb and the smallest touch is 32Gb... I don't think so.

I would personally fill an iPod touch more quickly since I'd actually use it to listen to music and take pictures / videos.

With those prices I'd choose the 8GB iPad mini and get a 64GB iPod touch (if I didn't have an iPhone already), as I'd use my iPod touch to hold my music collection and the iPad would mainly be a web surfing / reading device, but that's just me.
 
Just to put these prices into perspective:
The US$ price of the new iPhone 5 was not simply translated 1:1 to Euros as is common practice (1 Euro roughly equals 1.30 US$, but this is okay because European prices usually include sales tax and US prices don't), but 50 Euros were added to price of each model. Thus, I actually expect the US prices even cheaper than translating Euros 1:1 to US$s.

And one question:
Several people stated that they will use the iPad Mini to stream video and audio. Do you only want to do this where WiFi is available or are the costs for celullar this cheap in the US? In Germany for example, speed is reduced to GPRS after 200MB-3GB depending on your contract. This means you cannot even watch a whole movie.
 
And

iPod touch 32Gb US$ 299
iPod touch 64Gb US$ 399


Does this make sense ? So the smallest tablet is 8Gb and the smallest touch is 32Gb... I don't think so.

The smallest touch is actually 16GB, since they still sell the 4th gen model. Before the last even the smallest model was 8GB.

I agree though that 16GB seems a bit small for the iPad Mini. I think they would be more likely to start at 16GB for $299 than start at 8GB for $249.
 
Fair point on the old touch. But why would Apple even stock that (now very old) device if for $50 more you could have a new mini with a larger screen, more pixels and a heck of a lot faster.

Nope ... this just does not make sense. Too many models, the steps between sizes do not make sense and it does not fit into the existing pricing structure.
 
I don't see the positioning issue between the Touch and this as being an issue of all. With the Touch you pay for miniaturization. That sort of thing exists for most tech products.
 
Well on apples uk store the iPad 2($399) is 329 EU.

With that said 349 EU will be around the $400 price, same as the current iPad 2 and if rumor of an A6 in a developers logs is true then the selling point is ultra thin, IGZO, a6 processor and a long battery life to basically kill off the iPad 2, which I also think its possible the iPad 3 will get an a6 processor update to equal it out.
 
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