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'iPad Mini' Pricing to Begin at Approximately $329
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Touché.
I'm not sure if Apple will include a Retina screen, but they should because it would add the premium to their premium product. Although saying that I'll probably buy it anyway. I have an Apple ecosystem and I want a 7-8" tablet.
Your source also includes "sales of iPod services and Apple-branded and third-party iPod accessories" in that number, and I haven't seen the post where you detail the actual operating costs, so your argument isn't very compelling.
You're convinced Apple makes zillions off of their App store and that they could (and should) use that to offset hardware sales, but you haven't really mustered a great argument in favour of that. Just because you find it believable doesn't mean it's true.
EDIT: And I still don't see why Apple is obliged to take one profitable aspect of its business to lower prices for another aspect. If the App store is just a cash cow, why aren't you arguing for lower prices in the App store?
If the mini is XGA, you're right about no retina, but because UI elements still have minimum physical size requirements, Apple/developers can still do more with the mini's UI than 7" tablets. Personally, I love retina displays, but given a choice between a blown up smartphone with retina or a scaled down iPad with non-retina, I'll take the scaled down iPad since I already have a very capable smartphone that I can take with me everywhere.
No idea what Gillette got to do with it. And why would anything on the iPad mini be different from a iPad regular? Whats this with a keyboard? Why should you not be able to use a hardware keyboard with any iPad? Mini or regular? Thats no problem and costs less then 50 bucks, half of a surface keyboard.
And really, the Amazon ecosystem might be ok if like Amazon, but Apples ecosystem is pretty much second to none.
Forgot to add that losing market share percentage in a rapidly growing market isn't really necessarily losing sales. Apple can still sell more iPads as the market expands. The market is expanding with tons of cheap "me too" tablets and as internet usage surveys show, they do not have a very large share of the traffic. I can pretty much guarantee that no one who buys a $100 Coby tablet is going to buy another one whereas more people are repeat iPad buyers.
Yeah, clearly that's the point I was making, that $30=$30,000
Well, you were drawing an equivalency between the two. They have to be alike in some respect, otherwise your post would have had some random hypothetical about house prices unrelated to anything Apple, which you just threw in for some reason.
You're making a false equivalency - $30 in the difference for this device is not comparable to an extra $30,000 on a house in they way you intended, so you'll have to defend your point some other way.
The statement of Apple making "billions" has been debunked MANY times.
For more current numbers, in July 2012 Apple announced they surpassed 5.5B in payouts to developers for the entire 4 years the app store had been in operation. So if developers get 70% then Apple's 30% is about 2.4B. That is before ANY costs to Apple are factored (hosting infrastructure, network infrastructure, building data centers etc.) and again that is over the entire time the app store has been operational.
Apple's model is to use the app store to drive hardware sales, not the other way around.
What great tablets have something like Mobile Safari? What great tablets have the build quality of the iPad? What great tablets have the same number of games and apps, both in quality and quantity?
You are wrong. Great tablets? There is no such thing. Trying to compare these products like this is idiotic. But fine, buy whatever you want...just don't hang down your head in shame while other iPad users are enjoying their web browsing experience and incredible games, while you and your $80-cheaper Nexus are struggling try to display a webpage properly.
Of course it is. The statement was, if you're willing to spend $300 on a device, what's an extra $30? Which can be said about everything you buy. If I'm willing to spend $15 on a haircut(my limit), what's an extra $3? Well enough that I'll be going somewhere else. If I'm willing to spend $300,000 on a house, what's an extra $30,000? Well enough that I won't be buying it. There's a point I'm making. Get it?
Kind of disappointed with those prices - but I'll wait and see before lashing out against Apple.
Drop it a bit lower with at least 16GB and I'll be getting a couple of these for gifts for Christmas. If not, I'll wait until iPad Mini-S
Drop it a bit lower with at least 16GB and I'll be getting a couple of these for gifts for Christmas. If not, I'll wait until iPad Mini-S
Kwag's,
Please do yourself a favour and stop being such an Apple fanboys, given there are numerous Android rumour sites its a well known fact that at the months end Google will be selling a 32G Nexus 7 for the price of the present 16G model.
Further, the fervour/ utter devotion on these boards to anything manufactured by Foxconn - Apple just do the design and branding nowadays - is truely staggering.
As an old timer who has been with Apple products since 1992 - I began life with a LCII - one is most displeased at the direction Apple is moving in and the price gouging of those who purchase its products.
Further, if you wish real innovation, you have to have meaningful competition and Samsung, Asus and Google are handing this out by the bucket load.
Whilst I adore many of Apple's products, this does not mean one cannot be critical of the company or its business practices - I hate the fact 14 year old children have been caught assembling its products - my LCII by the way was manufactured in Ireland and my first iMac manufactured in Singapore - as such, I wish Apple would assemble its goods outside of China and the Far East - give jobs to American's rather than dividends to the 1%.
As for those who purchase Apple's products, I'm certainly not rich or part of the 1%, but it does seen that Apple's pricing strategy is aimed at that segment now, and for the high price to put it bluntly, some of its products are not up to scratch - may I mention the iPhone 5 as an example of this.
by all means engage in meaningful dialogue, but some of the crud now posted on these boards is ludicrous in the extreme.
I get your point, but (a) it's wrong and (b) your example doesn't support it.
People don't make economic decisions the way you describe - nobody sets a price in stone for things like haircuts, houses, or iPads and then goes looking for something that fits their price. Even when people say they do this, economic research shows that people constantly moderate their willingness to pay a particular price based on context, on what's available, on the transaction costs involved in looking for cheaper alternatives, on the nature of the product they are buying, and the amount that the product costs. In other words, people's behavior doesn't match what they say they will do.
While consumption in the aggregate is dependent on price, it is not dependent on it in a way which is transparent to the consumer, even if he or she thinks it is.
Any grouch who comes along and says "I said I would only spend $200k on a house (or $10k on a car or whatever) and gosh darn it that's what I stuck to" ignores how they came up with that price in the first place, and ignores how they committed to buying one item within a general category ("a house") when this is about something specific (an iPad Mini, not just 'a tablet').
The fact that you say you currently won't spend $330 on this iPad Mini (before price or product are even announced, let alone for sale) but would spend $300 is insignificant. There's nothing reliable to be drawn from it.
EDIT: Ok, you roll eyes at the claim that $30 = $30,000, and then in your very next post you say "Of course they are equivalent". Did you think someone was interpreting you to mean that those two amounts were literally the same integer?
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Just be more accurate: The iOS App market sales run rate is $4 billion per year
You're even more right! Apple's gross income from the App Store is 1.5 billion as of the WWDC this year.
Lower than a smaller screen, yes, higher, significantly so, than the original iPad. I don't think anyone will consider it blocky.
I believe you have over analyzed the situation to an incorrect collection.
A tablet, especially a mini tablet, is a fancy ereader, something to surf the web with, check your email and play a few games when your bored.
Amazon and google have hit the mark at the correct price point. History has shown as soon as consumer electronics hits the $199 price point they sell like hotcakes.
FYI, iOS devs have to pay $100/year before they even get to try and sell anything. This fee covers the fees to run the app store. The %30 that apple gets is all gravy.
How about you take that attitude right away the next time you don't like someone else's post, instead of having other posters waste time writing extended explanations for you.
So how would you describe iPad and iPhone sales? Not 'like hotcakes'? What consumer electronics device has sold as well in so short a time? Do you have a source for this $199 number, compared to items which don't cost that amount?
Assuming this is correct (which is a big assumption) do you think Apple is under an obligation to use that money to sell hardware at a lower price?
The guy is making a valid comparison.
10% of $300 is $30 and 10% of a $300,000 house is $30,000
Since when do schools pay retail prices? At 1000+ units you would pay less then $250. You should know that and not write balony.
I'd figured they would be priced high. Apple can't price them the same as the iPod Touch I had hoped Apple would place them just above the price of the Kindle Fire. Maybe $299
This is a bit of a surprise. Maybe they are waiting to get a feel for Windows 8 in regards to tablet offerings, price and popularity. I would bet that there is some company working on a $200-250 Windows 8 tablet.
It's painfully obvious they're both 10% of an arbitrary amount, that doesn't mean that people are as unwilling to spend $30 on $300 for a tablet as they would be to spend and extra $30k on a $300k house.
Have you heard of the marginal value of money?
Do you know anything about how people make economic decisions?
It's a spurious comparison.