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iPad mini iPad Mini Retina fiasco!

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to see what is all under your screen you have to have a brightly lit room and you have to have good near sighted vision, tilt the ipad air or retina mini in all directions but still laying flat, I mean, lift each corner slightly and scan the screen, you'll find nice tiny shimmering dust of make up or aluminum dust or industrial debris tiny enough to end up in the assembly line and into your screen. the poorest quality control ever. i've already returned over 14 airs and minis.
 
elchorizo said:
Wow, this is PERFECT advice. Seriously. Do what maflynn says.

I was all worried about the screen issues when I went to get my iPad mini. I chose not to do all the image tests and all that crap. I just used it for a few days doing the stuff I always do, and quickly fell in love. All this stuff is just making people crazy. OCD for the masses.

Just buy and use, and if it doesn't work, return. I haven't always been the biggest Apple fan, but the fact that they allow me to return something if I don't love it builds a lot of loyalty in me. And *knock on wood* I've yet to ever need to exercise the policy!
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I agree with your comment, but I have had two Airs and a rMini returned because even after just "using" them for a few days all I'd notice was the screen shift color issues. If I'm going to pay a premium for something I shouldn't live with its shortcomings until I get a working model. I have now settled with an Air that has little if at all screen color shift and have happily used it for over 3 months!

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vpro said:
to see what is all under your screen you have to have a brightly lit room and you have to have good near sighted vision, tilt the ipad air or retina mini in all directions but still laying flat, I mean, lift each corner slightly and scan the screen, you'll find nice tiny shimmering dust of make up or aluminum dust or industrial debris tiny enough to end up in the assembly line and into your screen. the poorest quality control ever. i've already returned over 14 airs and minis.
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Ok wait? You're telling me you have to do all this wonky lighting and lifting of the corner of the iPads just to see a tiny speck of dust? Really, does that reflect "everyday" usage of the iPad that affects how you see the screen? I'd understand if while the screen was on it created some ugly effects or something, but come on, your method of "testing for dust" seems outrageous.

As my previous posts states, yes I too have returned iPads, but that was when it affected my typical daily usage. I didn't put it under testing like you mention (that good ole OCD microscope)!
 
I got a new mini this week. I have checked it so many times and no dust etc. it isn't perfect but I will keep it. Oddly it was built in October, must have been sat round in a warehouse. Happy.
 
Has anyone else noticed black spots in the screen?

My ipad mini and also my retina mini now have one black spot.... dont know why... its like a pencil tint... tried to clean it with no result. :confused::confused:
 
vpro said:
to see what is all under your screen you have to have a brightly lit room and you have to have good near sighted vision, tilt the ipad air or retina mini in all directions but still laying flat, I mean, lift each corner slightly and scan the screen, you'll find nice tiny shimmering dust of make up or aluminum dust or industrial debris tiny enough to end up in the assembly line and into your screen. the poorest quality control ever. i've already returned over 14 airs and minis.
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Why do I not believe you?

Nobody would return 14 iPads.
 
well i did

Brian Y said:
Why do I not believe you?

Nobody would return 14 iPads.
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Well I did, I pay good hard earned money I expect no dust and debris - especially fine sparkling debris inside under the iPad glass, no no no...
 
Brian Y said:
Why do I not believe you?

Nobody would return 14 iPads.
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.... and nobody would search for "dust" the way he suggested :rolleyes:

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vpro said:
Well I did, I pay good hard earned money I expect no dust and debris - especially fine sparkling debris inside under the iPad glass, no no no...
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14 returns ? I think Apple would be happy to lose a customer like you ....
 
These OCD freaks with the dust and colors are the most annoying peeps on da planet
 
rajpatel said:
These OCD freaks with the dust and colors are the most annoying peeps on da planet
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I dunno, I don't think it's unreasonable or annoying to expect better quality control from a premium product like the iPad. Apple needs to be held to d@mn high standard if they are going to be selling tablets for as much as $929.00 plus tax. These OCD freaks are one of Apple's many target markets. They are entitled to evaluate these products as they see fit-and to return them if they are not satisfied.

You probably should avoid reading threads exclusively devoted to iPad screen defects if you don't want to be annoyed. No offense intended, just saying...
 
No it is unreasonable and stupid. That insane technique somebody described to find dust under screen tells all. Why not just disassemble the damn thing and look for dust on the circuit board, battery etc. morons
 
Just bought an ipad air after realizing how good the display is compared to the mini. Tried to swap the mini through apple but no luck finding a perfect one. Returned it, bought an air. Never looked back.
 
rajpatel said:
These OCD freaks with the dust and colors are the most annoying peeps on da planet
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You are forgetting the image retention people :D

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vpro said:
to see what is all under your screen you have to have a brightly lit room and you have to have good near sighted vision, tilt the ipad air or retina mini in all directions but still laying flat, I mean, lift each corner slightly and scan the screen, you'll find nice tiny shimmering dust of make up or aluminum dust or industrial debris tiny enough to end up in the assembly line and into your screen. the poorest quality control ever. i've already returned over 14 airs and minis.


Sent by Samsung Galaxy Note 10.1
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Fixed for you :D
 
Amen!

saltd said:
I dunno, I don't think it's unreasonable or annoying to expect better quality control from a premium product like the iPad. Apple needs to be held to d@mn high standard if they are going to be selling tablets for as much as $929.00 plus tax. These OCD freaks are one of Apple's many target markets. They are entitled to evaluate these products as they see fit-and to return them if they are not satisfied.

You probably should avoid reading threads exclusively devoted to iPad screen defects if you don't want to be annoyed. No offense intended, just saying...
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I love it, people who speak the voice of reason. Exactly - is all I have to add.

I "can afford" to give feedback and "expect" only the most premium from Apple if that is how they advertise themselves as. Paying more than 900 dollars for a device - what do you expect? Nothing but the best!
 
vpro said:
Paying more than 900 dollars for a device - what do you expect? Nothing but the best!
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I expect a device that works as designed. Taking extreme measures to examine the most minute aspect of the tablet falls outside of that expectation imo. You're free to do what you want until Apple decides they don't want to deal with a customer with so many returns (it has happened before) but I think you have unrealistic expectations regardless of the price you paid for the iPad.
 
Do you guys not get slightly embarrassed going into the Apple store for exchanges over and over again? I recognise that you do right but I bet the average person wouldn't pick up on these tiny faults and wouldn't exchange as much.

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maflynn said:
I expect a device that works as designed. Taking extreme measures to examine the most minute aspect of the tablet falls outside of that expectation imo. You're free to do what you want until Apple decides they don't want to deal with a customer with so many returns (it has happened before) but I think you have unrealistic expectations regardless of the price you paid for the iPad.
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I agree with this. Who examines an iPad made in CHINA to that degree really!? It's a bunch of Taiwanese women who put these together, you're not going to get 'perfection' with anything. My car cost £18,000 but straight away I saw the tiniest mark on the dashboard. Did I embarrass myself and take it back for that? No. You're going to mark the product anyway within a month.
 
chillip said:
I got a new mini this week. I have checked it so many times and no dust etc. it isn't perfect but I will keep it. Oddly it was built in October, must have been sat round in a warehouse. Happy.
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How did you determine that it was built in October? And what ever method you used can it be used on any Apple product?

Thanks
 
erasr said:
Do you guys not get slightly embarrassed going into the Apple store for exchanges over and over again? I recognise that you do right but I bet the average person wouldn't pick up on these tiny faults and wouldn't exchange as much.

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I agree with this. Who examines an iPad made in CHINA to that degree really!? It's a bunch of Taiwanese women who put these together, you're not going to get 'perfection' with anything. My car cost £18,000 but straight away I saw the tiniest mark on the dashboard. Did I embarrass myself and take it back for that? No. You're going to mark the product anyway within a month.
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I agree. All this speaking about "premium products" is just ridiculous to me ... We are still speaking about a "cheap" consumer grade product, while more expensive than others, it cannot be "perfect" if you examine it under a microscope :rolleyes:
Otherwise it would cost 8000$ not 800 ....
 
vpro said:
I love it, people who speak the voice of reason. Exactly - is all I have to add.



I "can afford" to give feedback and "expect" only the most premium from Apple if that is how they advertise themselves as. Paying more than 900 dollars for a device - what do you expect? Nothing but the best!
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The difference is that you never hear about people returning a $4000 Sony HD TV 14 times. However they expect the same quality. I believe that the mobility of the returned product is the only difference. It's easy for somebody to toss an iPad in their back pack 4-5 x per day to exchange it. Not so much with a 50" TV.

I think the tolerance level is equal to the ease of the exchange process. Throw a 14 day delay for an exchange of the iPad and people with dust and such might become a little more relaxed about such alleged "defects" or "lack of QC".
 
That's strange, it seems like most of the newer items are all sealed pretty well. This hasn't been an issue for me on either the Mini or Mini 2
 
Max(IT) said:
14 returns ? I think Apple would be happy to lose a customer like you ....
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It's not just that, but as a customer of Apple I'd be more than happy for these Gomers to stop abusing the return policy by buying something that isn't Apple from now on. Apple's generous and liberal return policy is paid for by none other than those of us who actually don't return Apple products ad nauseum, meaning our products cost us more so these people can jump through convoluted hoops to find flaws in their products so they can return them.

This absurd OCD-oriented searching for flaws in a product that would never affect the daily use of said product, ever, ever, ever, is such a disgusting and wasteful attitude.
 
maflynn said:
Here's what I do when I get a new tablet. I use it as I expect I would. if I don't notice anything wrong under typical conditions, its a keeper.

If you're pixel peeping and then returning them for the most minor issues then I doubt you'll ever be satisfied.
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Woe is me! I paid twice as much money than most other small tablet cost and I expect higher quality?? What is wrong with me!!
 
Really

If someone is OCD and the store from where they purchased there item lets them return 14 or however many device's than its on who ever takes the item back. Apple has a 14 day return policy on the receipt .

Apple also has more than one assembly plant of there devices which could lead to discrepancies also.

Seems to be allot of personal attacks and name calling in this thread.
 
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