In which parallel dimension an iPad mini costs twice the money of a comparable tablet ? Go to check the price of the ridiculous Samsung Galaxy Note 8.0 and let me know ....
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In which parallel dimension an iPad mini costs twice the money of a comparable tablet ? Go to check the price of the ridiculous Samsung Galaxy Note 8.0 and let me know ....
It's not twice the price.
It's a Nexus device sold almost at a lost.
It's not in the same class of iPad mini (8" device)
Google Nexus 7:
16gb wifi 229
32gb wifi 269
32gb LTE 349
rMini
16gb wifi 399
32gb wifi 499
16gb LTE 529
32gb LTE 629
May not be exactly 50% but its darn near close. Its immaterial whether Google sells it at a loss, the fact remains the cost is significantly less then an iPad.
Nexus 7 was a 7" device, last time I checked .... And it didn't run iOS.
If I want a comparable sized device I would use galaxy note 8, and the price is not so different from rMini's ....
True, but you commented on the N7 not the Galaxy - stating:
I provided evidence that the N7 is just about nearly half the price of the rMini and Google's profit margin is not germane to the discussion. Whether you believe the N7 is a completely different class of tablet because of the inch difference is debatable, but that's your opinion.
I've interacted with the N7 and I'm impressed by what google managed for such a low price. I have no experience with Samsung's product so I cannot comment on that.
My original post asked for a comparable device ...
I like the nexus 7 too, actually I like all the nexus devices to be honest, but I think is a cheaper device compared to rMini, in every aspect.
And it doesn't run iOS nor WP, the only two operative systems I would use.
Roughly 600 million iOS devices since 2007.....there's bound to be a couple million out there that are faulty.
May seem like a big number, but ultimately it likely falls within the acceptable range of QA for most mass-produced products.
Though I find it crazy that people get upwards of 8 and 10 replacements.....at that point, you're TRYING to find something wrong.
I've had lots of iOS devices, had a dead pixel issue with my iPhone 5, a processor problem on my 4S. Replaced two iPads because I dropped them, but other than that, have had pretty good luck I suppose.
Also never had the home button break - that's a big one I always hear about but haven't ever experienced.
Point being - stuff happens. Nothing's perfect - especially when it comes to mass produced technology.
May seem like a big number, but ultimately it likely falls within the acceptable range of QA for most mass-produced products.
Though I find it crazy that people get upwards of 8 and 10 replacements.....at that point, you're TRYING to find something wrong.
I've had lots of iOS devices, had a dead pixel issue with my iPhone 5, a processor problem on my 4S. Replaced two iPads because I dropped them, but other than that, have had pretty good luck I suppose.
Also never had the home button break - that's a big one I always hear about but haven't ever experienced.
Point being - stuff happens. Nothing's perfect - especially when it comes to mass produced technology.
Nexus 7 is $219
Kindle Fire HDX 7 is $229
Dell Venue 8 Pro is $229
And note that I said "small tablets" and not "8 inch tablets"
A difference of an inch doesn't mean that the iPad mini is a different class from Nexus 7 and co.
Saying people have OCD and being rude to them because they want the most important part of the device - the display -to work properly is dumb. Especially when it's an expensive device from a company known to make premium high quality products.
1 inch is a good difference in this category ...
Btw are you seriously comparing rMini with the Kindle ? Or the cheap Dell tablet ?
1 inch is a good difference in this category ...
Btw are you seriously comparing rMini with the Kindle ? Or the cheap Dell tablet ?
The mini uses just as much "cheap" components as both. Apple products benefits from ios and it's ecosystem.
I can see validity in both sides of this argument. I think one thing that some individuals may not be considering is the difference between the cheapest and most expensive iPads/Minis. If you got the cheapest model, you probably are LESS likely to be so intense with your examination, however, if you've just spent near $1,000.00 on something you can (though shouldn't) toss through the air like a frisbee and almost twice the price of the entry-level mac mini, yeah, you're probably going to be pissed about dust under your screen, dead pixels (an issue probably even for the lower-price tier buyers), and uneven tinting.
One thing I've notice about this thread is the number of people who are trying to justify to everybody else legitimate returns due to flaws that, however small, are somehow affecting your experience with the product. I believe the most quoted "anti-return" post in this thread says that if your every day use is somehow hindered by whatever that defect may be, then return; if the product does not meet your standards, then there is no need to justify to anybody except the person performing your exchange/return the reason for doing so. Most stores in the US (and yes, I understand not everybody on here lives in the states) have some sort of return policy, with 14 days being the shorter of deadlines, 30 being most common. That is more than enough time to establish whether or not dust is a problem, and I think that's where the difference between a justified and ******** return lies. If you go home and turn it on that first time and THEN go looking for dust- Sure! Take it back! You may have searched for the flaw, but you obviously expected a better product than you received from the start. However if you're going to take it back for an exchange, do yourself and the store a favor and open it up right there for your inspection. However, I think if you've used the thing for 48 hours, having a satisfactory performance and then go looking for dust because you read about it on the internet (probably on your new device), you're an *******. You used it for two whole days with no issues, so honestly there were no issues.
One thing I've notice about this thread is the number of people who are trying to justify to everybody else legitimate returns due to flaws that, however small, are somehow affecting your experience with the product. I believe the most quoted "anti-return" post in this thread says that if your every day use is somehow hindered by whatever that defect may be, then return; if the product does not meet your standards, then there is no need to justify to anybody except the person performing your exchange/return the reason for doing so. Most stores in the US (and yes, I understand not everybody on here lives in the states) have some sort of return policy, with 14 days being the shorter of deadlines, 30 being most common. That is more than enough time to establish whether or not dust is a problem, and I think that's where the difference between a justified and ******** return lies. If you go home and turn it on that first time and THEN go looking for dust- Sure! Take it back! You may have searched for the flaw, but you obviously expected a better product than you received from the start. However if you're going to take it back for an exchange, do yourself and the store a favor and open it up right there for your inspection. However, I think if you've used the thing for 48 hours, having a satisfactory performance and then go looking for dust because you read about it on the internet (probably on your new device), you're an *******. You used it for two whole days with no issues, so honestly there were no issues.
It's not immaterial because the N7 is the ONLY tablet that costs that little. You can't pick on the ONLY cheap tablet when there are dozens of Android tabs that are as much if not more.
Galaxy Note 8 however offers lots more features that doesn't presented in iPad mini though rMini has better screen.
The better comparison is iPad mini and Galaxy TabPro 8. Though this tablet still offers better multitasking than iPad mini. The screen however is better than rMini
Cheap components ? Like an aluminum case and a good display ? Or a 64-bits CPU ?
rMini is just in another league compared with Kindle or Dell tablets ....
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A lot more features or the usual marketing gimmick typical of Samsung 's products, good just to make the specs list longer ?
I can't speak about galaxy tabPro 8 since I can't find it in my store and I don't know it yet, but speaking about multitasking on a 8" device ....
Btw we are going off topic.
None of those tablets can run iOS so they are not a choice for me (nor something to speak about on this section of the forum).
1 inch is a good difference in this category ...
Btw are you seriously comparing rMini with the Kindle ? Or the cheap Dell tablet ?
These devices are not in the same league, that's exactly my point, that people pay more for devices like this, expecting to get premium quality. So why am I comparing them anyway? Because they happen to NOT have those issues, at half the price!
But iPad mini users, even though they paid more and expect a higher quality device, not only have a subpar screen, but also issues like yellow corners and dust. It's shameful.
I know, you are going to say something about how those numbers do not represent real life usage, or something silly like that. But this is Apple we are talking about here, you know, that company that designers always praised for high quality screens? And again, this is a device that is almost twice as expensive as its competition.
All of them have issues and problems ...
What is different is just the number of units sold and the attention they deserve.
Did you even hear about "DellRumors" forum ?
iPads and other brand's tablets are assembled using third party components in the same big assembly lines in China, so the issues you could find in an Apple product are the same you could find in any other.
And that isn't price dependent, since in the market logic a 249$ and a 399$ device are considered in the same quality category.
So the whole discussion about "premium products" is silly: a premium product could be a tablet costing 2-3000 $ ... and this isn't the case.
All of them have issues and problems ...
What is different is just the number of units sold and the attention they deserve.
Did you even hear about "DellRumors" forum ?
iPads and other brand's tablets are assembled using third party components in the same big assembly lines in China, so the issues you could find in an Apple product are the same you could find in any other.
And that isn't price dependent, since in the market logic a 249$ and a 399$ device are considered in the same quality category.
So the whole discussion about "premium products" is silly: a premium product could be a tablet costing 2-3000 $ ... and this isn't the case.
Apple didn't get that level of attention and sales by making crap. Everyone always argues that Apple products are of superior quality, yet here you are saying the opposite, now that it suits you.
what are you going on about?
Everyone likes to point fingers around here.
As long as it is written in their policy for a return within a certain time period, returned in it's complete packaged state, consumers should exercise their rights.
People here are not returning products they abused folks lets get that straight ok? People are returning items which are not up to their standards no matter how high you might think it is, your opinion doesn't really count. Every time that someone has returned a dusty and debris filled inner screen ipad - they also went and purchased another one and another, and another.
Everyone likes to point fingers around here.
As long as it is written in their policy for a return within a certain time period, returned in it's complete packaged state, consumers should exercise their rights.
People here are not returning products they abused folks lets get that straight ok? People are returning items which are not up to their standards no matter how high you might think it is, your opinion doesn't really count. Every time that someone has returned a dusty and debris filled inner screen ipad - they also went and purchased another one and another, and another.
Superior design is different from superior quality ....
Apple has superior design (not only in the ahestetic mean) but quality is comparable to any other brand, since their products are actually assembled in the same factories ....
There are just a few differences caused by the chosen materials, like aluminum instead of cheap plastic or faux leather, but the precision of the assembly is just the same since the assembly lines are exactly the same.
So then in your opinion everyone should just deal with the fact that they are paying twice as much for a product just because there's a fruit on the back?
You too?
Back on track now.
You buy with your money;
Company generously allows return upon defective or inferior item;
You return within the allowed time frame in original packaging for refund or exchange;
Consumers have huge amount of options so you MUST exercise your power to keep everyone in business and employees may able to keep their jobs.
Welcome to the grand capitalist system/economy people - stop bashing yourselves and each other. Encourage mass consumerism and enjoy your buying power, unless you are jealous for what ever reason why some people buy so many gadgets so often.
Personally, I buy and test, inspect and fuss till I find the perfect tool for me with functionality, value and perfect build - when found, I keep it for and be productive on it for over 8 years at least, which point I put it on craigslist and sell it within 4 days in MINT CONDITION for 100 dollars less than original purchase price, and everyone is happy!!
Happy day!
Love you all thank you.
Back on track now.
You buy with your money;
Company generously allows return upon defective or inferior item;
You return within the allowed time frame in original packaging for refund or exchange;
Consumers have huge amount of options so you MUST exercise your power to keep everyone in business and employees may able to keep their jobs.
Welcome to the grand capitalist system/economy people - stop bashing yourselves and each other. Encourage mass consumerism and enjoy your buying power, unless you are jealous for what ever reason why some people buy so many gadgets so often.
Personally, I buy and test, inspect and fuss till I find the perfect tool for me with functionality, value and perfect build - when found, I keep it for and be productive on it for over 8 years at least, which point I put it on craigslist and sell it within 4 days in MINT CONDITION for 100 dollars less than original purchase price, and everyone is happy!!
Happy day!
Love you all thank you.
It's not twice the price and it's not the Apple on the back you are paying, but the design, the operative system and the entire ecosystem behind that.
Do you prefer an android cheap tablet ? Feel free to buy one and good luck.